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2016-03-14 15:42
holden nut wrote
American LaFrance 900?

Dunno, IRL it look way too rounded and old-school
Crown Firecoach
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2016-03-14 09:59
Unplayable?
Crown Firecoach
Crown Firecoach

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2016-03-14 05:26
American LaFrance 900?

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Ford Mondeo
Ford Mondeo

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2016-03-13 17:36
Sure, Ill post them in the main game rather than here tho.

Also I still belive we cant judge on name, I mean The counthash is a diablo :P So calling a Sierra a Mundano is just as valid as calling a thunderbird an Impaler heh

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Ford Mondeo
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2016-03-13 15:27
Mundano doesn't mean it's boring, it's just edited Mondeo word, like you would say Crapvrolet instead of Chevrolet :p anyway could you upload those original designs somewhere? They look interesting
Ford Mondeo
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Maxine
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2016-03-13 14:16
krq9 wrote
Your top view drawing of the Mondeo has the side windows way too curved and slanted. What did you use as a reference?


I used top a Contour, And side refrences of a mondeo, The contour is only avalicble as a 4 door sedan but there are no refs I can find of a mondeo of that era, I do belive a modeo directly from the top would look more curved than a sierra.



From the side you can see the windows are more rounded towords the top, from above this may look as if the roof is less stright, However I cant find a direct, top down view, Only angular images, and the angle of a picture can be very deceptive.

krq9 wrote
The roof of the mk1 Mondeo is quite flat actually, and viewed from the top, looks just as flat as the Sierra's.


even the picture you provided shows a slight curve compared to the sierra, the very top of the windows are fairly clsoe to the center of the roof.

krq9 wrote
Also, you seem to ignore that the Sierra has additional rear quarter windows, which the Mondeo doesn't. Just like the Mundano.




I just did them as dark as the side pillars, It would look rather clutterd with those in too, Also I used a 5 door sierra refrence, Nobody said it wasent a 3 door?



There is nothing that says the Mundano is a 4 door, Infact most cars in the game (except vulture and repair van) that have 4 doors have an animation for it opening, All 3 copcars, portsmouth all 3 taxis, regal, all limos, all busses, the brigham
also if you look at the mundano the rear door area would be slightly longer than the front, Like a 3 door sierra, a mondeos rear door is slightly shorter than the front one.

But you, seem to ignore. Mondeo has a more curved top of the rear hatch window, the front end is more rounded where as the ingame Mundano is rather flat.

krq9 wrote
All signs point towards Mondeo.


Not really, Infact the only reson it was called a Mondeo in the first place is because of its name Mundano, Wich is just a word play on the word Mundane, to mean a boring normal car, I know people would consider both the mondeo and sierra to be mundane, GTA Also named the Camaro a 'stallion' Wich would make it a mustang the thunderbird an 'Impaler' wich would make it an impala, The mercedes both an 'Itali', and 'Jugular' Making them an italian sports car, and a jaguar, the volvo a 'Regal' making it a regal (I doubt theyd use a cars real name) Corvette is a 'Thunderhead' making it a thunderbird? and the 'Challnger' wich is not actully a challnger... The reson im listing all these is to just point out, The name is meaningless A car could be called penis in the microwave for all I care, Im going to go on its physical aperance. or sometimes Filename wich on occasion gives clues. such as in GTA2 and ATS

GTA cars are a weird brand, I dare not even post my Bulldog theories.

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Ford Mondeo
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2016-03-13 11:05
Your top view drawing of the Mondeo has the side windows way too curved and slanted. What did you use as a reference?

The roof of the mk1 Mondeo is quite flat actually, and viewed from the top, looks just as flat as the Sierra's.




Also, you seem to ignore that the Sierra has additional rear quarter windows, which the Mondeo doesn't. Just like the Mundano.

All signs point towards Mondeo.
Ford Mondeo
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Maxine
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2016-03-13 10:41
Its kinda close to call but I still belive its more sierra like. Theres the old concept, and then theres the shape.

I decided to get a bunch of refrence images from the sideera, and mondeo 5 door hatchbacks.



Ignoring the lights, Both cars have a large window on the tailgate, a very slightly raised area in the center of the hood, being a very bland car thats all I could pick out,

So heres a drawing I did based on the mondeo and sierra refrences, of the basic body shape.



I may have overdone it a little but the mondeo deiffinatly has more rounded side windows toworods the top, the rear of both cars is surprisngly flat if you look from the rear, only that the mondeo has a more rounded window, It seems rather close to call..

Heres each car drawing shrunk down to 35x62 pixels, The size of the car in the sprite for GTA.



So I think the reson some GTA cars look off, is due to the small sprite size, Cars are allways oddly proportioned being very short and wide, Its very close But I would still call this a sierra based on the flatter front, and flatter roof.

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Ford Mondeo
Ford Mondeo

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2016-03-13 09:17
it is obvious that this is a Mondeo. I don't understand how can you not see it. If it isnt a Mondeo, Sierra, Scorpio then what is it?
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2016-03-13 00:23
Burn Rubber wrote
And what else? Cause a window doth not a Mondeo make. :/


Let's see... the whole car.

It's a Mondeo with the usual GTA1 altered proportions (shorter body, especially shorter bonnet). Looks absolutely nothing like a Sierra nor a Scorpio (except from the early DMA concept's front end... but that is not in the game)

Since you're "siding with Maxine", there's obviously no point in arguing with you.
Ford Mondeo
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2016-03-12 23:49
The rear window, for example, is definitely Mondeo:

Dune Buggy
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Maxine
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2016-03-12 22:33
Orignal sprite from DMA lost cars, Maybe it was ment to be a full size car at one point? The ingame sprite is so small not much detail is seen. hope this helps.

Ford Mondeo
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Maxine
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2016-03-12 22:01
sajmon14 wrote
Where can I see those original concepts? I couldnt find that on the web. The original concept you posted looks a bit different, the front looks like taken from the Sierra but it's actually also a Mondeo front, just edited. So it's a Mondeo anyway I think

Ya the old DMA cars, they were avaliable years ago in some old GTA info pages, info is getting skechy as years go by, Theres also diffrent versions of the bulldog with diffrent front lights.

Anyway you are kidding right? The mondeo is much rounder, the Mundano in gta has too much of a flat roof, Theres also the chanels on the roof withere roofracks are attatched wich dont seem to be on all sierras,
Could ya explain the basis for saing its a modeo for me?
Ford Mondeo
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2016-03-12 17:22
Where can I see those original concepts? I couldnt find that on the web. The original concept you posted looks a bit different, the front looks like taken from the Sierra but it's actually also a Mondeo front, just edited. So it's a Mondeo anyway I think
Ford Mondeo
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2016-03-12 15:31
Burn Rubber wrote
Wow. :wow: that's very deductive. :)

I think it would be listed as a Sierra. It looks more like one. I haven't seen you here before. Don't know if your new or I was a blind dumbass again, But hi. :lol:


Greetings, Ya I been around, havent posted much, I get fustrated with the lots of randomly posted car names.. I enjoy doing research into such things. and dont like the fact people can look at two diffrent cars and think there the same :P

I just hope all my research, explinations, and such dont end up anoying people.
Leyland Octopus
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Maxine
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2016-03-12 15:19
One of the most Bizar cars in GTA, I dont think the base model is even american, The game coming from a british company I think they just based the tanker on a random toy.

The unusual sides have allways confused me. They seem as if they are way too sloped,
Also 8 wheels? (or probly 12 wheels, But two rear axels with 4 front steering wheels)

te first thing this made me think of was those 8 wheel british trucks.


So I dug around a little and found this.


The tanker has allways been strange with its lined roof and 8 wheels funy sides.. but still that truck has flat sides.. so heres what I think happend.

Take a pic of the top of the truck, its not 100% top, theres a little side showing, so what if they just fliped the image and based it off that? to give it more character rather than being a flat box, with a cylinder behind it.

1. Pic of truck at angle

2. Flip image to mirror it.

3.Show wheels more, Add flamible sign, GTA Tanker



Sooo... Does this mean the GTA Tanker in the us, is actully a british Leyland Bison? That just seems really weird to me, Especially after I said 'This cant be this Cuz USA'

If it does it means the sprite is kinda inacurate.. MFG? heh

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2016-03-12 15:21:50
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Camaro

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Maxine
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2016-03-12 14:42
There are many variants of cars of the same year when it comes to muscle cars.
But this is kinda a No brainer.



Seems to have been named Msutang due to the name Stallion? Im.. beggining to see a patern here.
Ford Mondeo
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Maxine
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2016-03-12 14:24
While digging around in the history of GTA, for a mod I was making (reverting it all back to early concepts) I got ahold of the early DMA car concepts again, The game apears like it was going to use a more GTA2 like system, with trucks and trailers, and a much more GTA2 like, car color palet system.

anyway sevral cars are very similar, a few cars caught my attention, One of them being the car that looks very much like the Mundano.

The orignal concept I at first thought was a Murker Scorpio, but the rear window dosent fit, And the other Murker is only a 3 door, So this has some euro influence, Personally I think its a cross of the Europian Ford Sierra, the Scorpio, making some kinda weird Murker 5 door hatch, wich would have been cool.

Anyway take a look.



So how would ya call that? Ford Sierra? Dosent fit the us but looks closer, Murker Scorpio? Front is the same but rear window is diffrent.

Apears to be another case of Car named due to its ingame name, Please do reserach.

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2016-03-12 14:26:44
Ford Econoline
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Maxine
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2016-03-12 13:34
Its larger than any other GTA car, it has big flat sides, a clearly angular body, so whats that mean? Oh, Ofcorse, Its a small europian van.

Also the name Transit just means Movement, or To move, something is 'In transit'



Note some step vans have a very small split betwene the windsheild. In the transit this would be 2 pixels wide, wich would look like a 5 or so inch thick bar.



Many step vans also come with diffrent shaped hoods, grills, front ends, Roofs, and roof bars,
Because of all this, I belive the Tansit in GTA, Because of its size, shape, design I belive it to be a generic type of american step van from the late 90s.

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2016-03-12 13:55:46
Porsche 911 Turbo
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2015-12-05 18:35
Could be a Porshe Turbo from old Matchbox collection:
www.70er-matchbox.de/m_1978_oi_porsche_turbo_gr_nr_3_matchbox.jpg
Lamborghini Diablo
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2015-10-14 19:58
Car that is only good for to be sold, otherwise complete jalopy. Goes fast as hell, turn tight (no, this is not a good combination in GTA 1) and it can be sold for 12k.
Ford Escort RS Cosworth
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2015-10-14 19:53
Car worth selling. 12k if you have 1x multiplier, I sold one few minutes ago for 84k, since I was looking forward to finally get out of Liberty City, that after phone missions I did not do any car missions.
Aston Martin DB7
Aston Martin DB7

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2015-08-01 19:31
For me that car looks like Porsche 911 996 (1997-2004)
Dune Buggy
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2015-04-16 16:53
Caterham 7
Volkswagen Beetle Baja Bug
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2015-01-31 12:50
Thanks, I am looking to it right now :)
Volkswagen Beetle Baja Bug
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2015-01-31 03:27
Somewhere in San Andreas, can't quite remember where. Richman, I think... on a driveway.
Volkswagen Beetle Baja Bug
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2015-01-30 14:17
Mother of God!
Where is IT parked?
Dune Buggy
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2015-01-30 14:16
Front half looks like Caterham 7
Ford Fairlane
Ford Fairlane

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2015-01-30 14:15
Odd choice to have 30 years old car as a taxi in game
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2013-08-29 19:32
it's the slantnose one
Ford Econoline
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2013-08-03 00:44
It's a Ford Transit Mk II (it's far too short to be an Econoline):
i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr219/djhopper_2008/transit/iphone050.jpg
farm4.staticflickr.com/3084/5874045113_c54a828580_z.jpg

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Jaguar XK8
Jaguar XK8

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2013-03-16 04:44
Jaguar XK8.
Bugatti Type 50
Bugatti Type 50

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2013-03-16 04:41
Definitely a Bugatti. Judging from the proportions and paint scheme, it's a Type 50, 1930-1934.

www.shorey.net/Auto/French/Bugatti/1932%20bugatti%20type%2050.jpg
Plymouth Barracuda
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2013-03-16 04:38
'Cudas are Challengers looked nearly identical from above, but 'Cudas had shorter hoods, that terminated before the front of the car. This car's hood extends over the grille, which would make it a 1970-1971 Challenger...just as I said over five years ago.
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2013-03-14 17:12
victorvance wrote


It is "The O’Jays"! The song is called "Love Train" and was first released in 1972 on their album "Back Stabbers": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Stabbers


Thanks. Actually, the one that I listened was the version performed by Tommy Lee that used for the credits soundtrack on Final Destination 3. Maybe both versions are good.
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2013-03-14 15:53
civic_eg6_94 wrote


*suddenly a beetle going full speed in front of you and the screen goes black with crash sound*

Sorry for replying an old comment, but I heard the song with the original lyrics ('love train' instead of 'love bug) before. Do you know the name and the artist of the song?


It is "The O’Jays"! The song is called "Love Train" and was first released in 1972 on their album "Back Stabbers": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Stabbers
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2013-03-14 14:53
SizSkiizd wrote
People all over the world
Join hands
Start a love bug, love bug
People all over the world
Join hands
Start a love bug, love bug

:lol:


*suddenly a beetle going full speed in front of you and the screen goes black with crash sound*

Sorry for replying an old comment, but I heard the song with the original lyrics ('love train' instead of 'love bug) before. Do you know the name and the artist of the song?


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2013-03-14 13:57
victorvance wrote


When you enter some of these: www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=1124 you start a bonus mission where you use the RC-car (equipped with a bomb) to cause as much havoc as you can.
so basically, it becomes a COD BLACK OPS RC-XD
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2013-03-13 16:11
Skyline159 wrote
Playable, but what to do to ride?


When you enter some of these: www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=1124 you start a bonus mission where you use the RC-car (equipped with a bomb) to cause as much havoc as you can.
Dune Buggy
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2013-03-13 15:49
Playable, but what to do to ride?
Chevrolet Corvette
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2013-03-13 14:20
Is there such thing a Corvette Z28?
Aston Martin DB7
Aston Martin DB7

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2013-01-10 20:39
this is definitely an Aston
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2013-01-10 17:22
sajmon14 wrote
Developer is from Scotland


Well, that explain the Cosworth in America.

But still, I see this car more like Aston martin rather than Puma.
Aston Martin DB7
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2013-01-10 17:11
Developer is from Scotland
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2013-01-10 15:41
sirwiggum wrote
But then DMA took some small liberty with the overall car, as it isn't an official Ford licence.

Best overhead diagram I could find is this - model-copy.ru/images/ford_032.jpg

Some differences, mainly the curved rear boot/trunk. However, the front headlights are similar, and the overall coupe shape.



Unfortunately, Puma only sold in Europe, not US. in America, there is Ford Cougar, similar class to Puma, but it barely resemble this car.
Aston Martin DB7
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2013-01-10 14:50
But then DMA took some small liberty with the overall car, as it isn't an official Ford licence.

Best overhead diagram I could find is this - model-copy.ru/images/ford_032.jpg

Some differences, mainly the curved rear boot/trunk. However, the front headlights are similar, and the overall coupe shape.

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2012-11-08 18:13
Looks a bit long for a Puma. I always thought it looked like a Dodge Stealth.
Aston Martin DB7
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2012-11-07 18:22
I want to suggest that this is a Ford Puma.

The headlights especially match, the Puma had dark pointed lights (that actually used a darked part of the Fiesta-based wing in part!).
Rear passenger compartment tapers, and it has the rounded rear window.

Bulldog may have been an animal reference to 'Puma'.

As mentioned earlier, inexpensive Fiesta based, 1.4 and 1.7 litre so not too fast.

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Ford Thunderbird
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2012-10-29 00:05
With that spare wheel, it's a 1956. Could someone please change it?
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL

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2012-09-09 00:04
A Gullwing with no Gullwing-doors. But besides it is clearly an 300 SL!