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 Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | It's a Jaguar NOT Vector! | |
 Chevrolet Caprice Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Ford Crown Victoria | |
 Toyota Tacoma Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | this truck is a pretty big mixture of things, front end looks kinda like an Isuzu Hombre and a 93-97 Ford Ranger, but the taillights are what looks to be inspired by the 96-03 Ford F-150 Stepside Bed Taillights and the overall shape of the truck is somewhat reminiscent of late 90s-early 2000s Toyotas | |
 Ford F-350 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | I see pretty much no resemblance to a Silverado, this is more likely to be a 96-03 F-150 (most likely the 2000 crew cab model) but slightly more square | |
 Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | For me it looks like Ford Escape\Maverick | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Grand Cherokee is right! It is! | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Sorry, I have gone too far. I didn't want a debate with anyone. I deleted most of my comments on the page. But you can't ignore the fact that the Landstalker is listed as Jeep Grand Cherokee on the German, French, Portugalian and Russian GTA Wikias. And it was listed earlier as a JGC on the English GTA Wikia. And it seems that it was changed accidentally. And GrandTheftWiki, which is more accurate than GTA Wikia, also calls it a JGC. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote I know that I'm beating a dead horse, but... - the script implies that it's based on a Jeep - with the exception of LCS, it's based on a Jeep in the 3D Universe - it wouldn't make any sense to be based on something foreign and then based on an American SUV in all other GTA games I know I said in my previous comment that it might be based on the Montero, but I think the similarity is only accidental - similarly how the Infernus resembles the Vector. And please, don't forget that GTA 3 was the first GTA game in 3D, and it has only about 40 vehicles. And there's only one SUV in the game. And if there's only one SUV in the game, it's most likely based on popular and well-known vehicle. The Jeep WJ was sold worldwide, and it's far more popular than the Montero, Freelander, Escape or the CR-V. So, even though it might not look like a Jeep at the first glance, I still think the best match is the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ). We all lost the craps we have and you are still rambling on about why you think this is a GJ. Give up! | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | It reminds me of the Escape, G. Cherokee and Montero Sport at the same time. I think in cases like this, in which a clear answer is not easy and people will never agree, is list the Landstalker as Made for Game as being too generic. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Well, I am. but at times I feel I am the only one who does, And I also feel the same about my comments on here. Personally the front end looks more like a Montero Sport.  And the rear, Sure It can be slightly freelander like, it could also be like a Discovery, or a Montero, or a Land Cruiser. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Thanks for the umpteenth time for a comparison. The Landstalker is still not a WJ Grand Cherokee. Thank you. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Hello everyone! I know that I'm quite annoying at this point, and some people are going to disagree with me anyway, but I still didn't gave up. I created a poll on GTAForums about the Landstalker, but only two people voted: one vote for the Freelander, and someone else said that it's based on the 1999-2001 Ford Explorer - but I think that we all can agree, that it's not the latter one. So here's another (and I really hope the last) comparison picture:  Red - GC Yellow - Freelander Orange - It could be both Green - ? As you can see, this time I used the XBOX model, which is has higher quality textures: it has metallic grille, similarly to the GC's Laredo trim, and the headlights are more closely resembles the GC's. The shape of the rear windows on the side are could be from several vehicles. Maybe a Toyota RAV4? The spare tire, the position of the license plate and the taillights are most likely from the Freelander. But as someone said on the GTAForums page I mentioned above: "It all probably just flowed from his (Paul Kurowski, the vehicle designer) mind." - So maybe some parts of the SUV aren't based on any real vehicle. And I realized that the Landstalker also has a spare tire on the back in VC and VCS, despite the fact, that the Jeep Wagoneer didn't have a spare tire. But they're listed as Wagoneer - and no one has a problem with it. So, what is different in this case? Why is this Landstalker can't be listed as a Grand Cherokee with a spare tire? And changing the Landstalker on the VC and VCS page is to unknown is certainly not the correct solution. -- Last edit: 2017-04-30 22:53:16 | |
 Made for Game Tank Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | M3 tank? | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | hm, Now that I look the rear does have the same bumper as a Freelander, but the rest of the body shape is just kind of, Odd. But I went and loaded it up, I hope this helps your search, i.imgur.com/4z9Cln9.jpg I have looked over many SUVs of that era and have come up still blank, I think they just made up the body shape. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote Okay, so how long it will be listed as unknown? Did anyone find a better match than the Jeep Grand Cherokee? You can't expect everybody to agree with your opinion. You think it's a GC, I think it's a CR-V/Freelander. Also, nobody touched this thread until you showed up again. I'm fine with it being Unknown/M4G until somebody changes it to a small SUV with a spare tire. I have another suggestion. It's Japanese, has a spare tire on the back, and was sold in the U.S, but since your mind is overfocused on the Grand Cherokee, and won't agree to anything else, I'm gonna keep my mouth shut about it. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | wow Im dumb, Why did I keep saying freelander? Oh well. I still cant see this being a Landrover of any type regardless. My two cents Also, Mathias98 Welcome to my world, I try to post images, and comparisons but people don't seem to care that much about those :P you can show an exact car, and someone will still make a seemingly random suggestion after you, Not all the time, But some people seem to post before they read the other peoples comments is all. -- Last edit: 2017-04-13 23:19:02 | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote Okay, sorry for the F-word. You say it can't be a GC, because it has a spare tire. But you said in an earlier comment that back is from a Freelander, and I agreed with that. And I said in my essay above that it could be a GC/Freelander mix. And size doesn't matter. Just look at this, for example: www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=46846 It's much bigger that it should be, but it's still based on International 3800 bus. Just because it's smaller, it can be a GC. And please, tell me why do you think the Discovery is a better match. Apart from the spare tire and the name. i don't accept an edit. It's an admin that put LR Discovery. But it's not because you said that it's JGC 100 times that we are ok with you. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Also, it's called Landstalker. There's probably a reason for that... | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Who cares about the sales of the cars, if it is based of a car it is based on it. Period. Sale data doesn't matter. The car never spawns in Portland, it is seen on the streets seldomly in Staunton Island, and is more common in Shoreside Vale. Secondly, the GC is too big to be the Landstalker. The Landstalker is a smaller SUV in this game, plus it has a spare tire. So the GC is out of the question, and the CR-V gif is the closest it can get too, with Freelander headlights and tailights. Just because it was a Jeep in VC and SA doesn't mean it can be a Jeep in others, it was a Lincoln Navigatot/Ford Expidition in GTA 4 and 5. So why can't it be different in 3? Yes, it is not a Discovery, but it's at least better than having it as an American SUV like an Escape or GC. Personally I would list it as a CR-V, but that's just my opinion, no need to get upset. Also, please watch your language. No need for the F-bombs. -- Last edit: 2017-04-13 22:09:25 | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Seems a better match than the Escape. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | I knew I said that I was done here but I actually like it being identified as a Discovery than something American. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | I like it when things work like this, Lots of people making images, and actually explaining themselves. its nice. I could never identify the landstalker myself, I had no idea it was listed as such on this site. I personally would like to say it does not look like a Freelander in any way? I had the misfortune of buying one of those once  so maybe I have a bias on the fact I cant stand to see it :PThe comparisons with the jeep do work in some ways but its also.. Not quite there too, I personally always imagined it being something Japanese, But never could find something to fit the shape. The rear end bugs me, Looks like a cross between and old Discovery and a Montero or something.. But still... Jeep is closer than Freelander Edit: Also I would just like to say, Using wiki to find out about game cars is a really bad idea, Check out the GTA2 wiki page if you want some eye rolling fun. -- Last edit: 2017-04-13 19:46:33 | |
 Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Just out of curiosity: Why did you change your "language" mode? Dis is rilly streinch languedge u no? | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | When I posted that picture back 2016 December, I didn't thought that it's going to be another long argument. I thought that some people are going to agree with me, and then it gets changed to a Jeep. But I was wrong... A lot of people suggested other vehicles, some of which look completely different or would be impossible to find in the USA. Other people just simply said that it's not a JGC. So let's pretend that the last 30 comments on the page does not exist. I'm trying to prove for the last time, that it's a second generation Jeep Grand Cherokee:  As you can see, the Grand Cherokee has quite distinctive wheels arches, and the Landstalker has almost the same ones. And none of the vehicles mentioned on the page has similar wheel arches (maybe except the Trooper). And the front bumper is clearly from the JGC. The shape of the grille is the same, but the grille itself different - most likely it was changed because the Jeep grille is a trademark, and Rockstar wanted to avoid a lawsuit. All of the Jeeps in the GTA series has different grille - just look at the Mesa Grande, the Seminole and the Crusader. And about the spare tire - none of the cars in GTA series are 100% accurate. For example, the Tahoma in GTA San Andreas is obviously based on a Chevy Monte Carlo, despite the fact that the Monte Carlo wasn't available in 4 door form. And as K20lover199 said, the rear might be actually from the Freelander. And why it can't be a Grand Cherokee/Freelander mix? And now, please look at the script: gtamodding.ru/wiki/Kenji#kenji2 If you scroll down, you find these lines: // creates car5 the 4X4 CREATE_CAR CAR_LANDSTALKER 200.7 -1006.2 25.1 car_to_steal5_km2 This is actually from the beta version of mission 'Grand Theft Auto'. In the beta it was called 'Gone In 30 Seconds' and the player also had to steal a Banshee and a Landstalker, while in the final version the player has to steal only an Infernus, a Cheetah and a Stinger. As you can see the script calls the Landstalker 4X4 -please take a look at this: www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=1052 -it's a Jeep Wrangler. And it was a Jeep Wagoneer/Chevy S-10 Blazer mix in VC, SA and VCS. And finally, the Jeep Grand Cherokee was far more popular in the USA than any of the SUVs mentioned on the page. For example, in 1999 ca. 300000 JGCs were sold. While, in 1997 ca. 60000, in 1998 ca. 100000, and 1999 ca. 120000 Honda CR-Vs were sold. More JGC were sold in one year, than CR-Vs in three years! So, even if the Landstalker isn't 100% Jeep Grand Cherokee (only about 70%), it's still a much better match than the Ford Escape or anything else. -- Last edit: 2017-04-13 18:44:32 | |
Toyota Tacoma Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | That front end kinda reminds me of an Isuzu Hombre | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | I have a theory about R* messing up some names in the newer games on purpose, I already wrote it on some GTA page and it said that they do it, because they know that IGCD exists and they want to confuse us  | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | K20lover199 wrote Well the reason why they changed it is because of a potential lawsuit. But they left in the game the Honda wheels and some real life businesses, such as Joe's Pizza  But back on topic, I changed my mind, the overall shape is quite similar to the Vector. And sometimes even Rockstar isn't sure about the real life counterparts of the cars, for example the Ingot is called Swedish, but mostly it's based on a Stagea. And in some cases, the manufacturer names are messed up: Karin Kuruma instead of Maibatsu or Karin Sultan instead of Emperor. | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Yep, I think it's totally accidental. | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote This it the last time I post on the Infernus page, but... -the script calls it Diablo -the name is a reference to the Diablo -at least 50% of the car is based in the Diablo (rear, sides and window shape) -the Diablo is a well-known sports car, while the Vector isn't so famous -only 14 production model Vector M12s were built, so it's highly unlikely to be found on a city street -with the exception of GTA San Andreas, it was based on Lambo in every GTA game So, the developers certainly wanted the Infernus to be based on a Lamborghini Diablo. Well the reason why they changed it is because of a potential lawsuit. So they changed the name and design. By Coincidence, it looks round like a Vector M12, with very little Diablo resemblance (like the doors). | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | This it the last time I post on the Infernus page, but... -the script calls it Diablo -the name is a reference to the Diablo -at least 50% of the car is based in the Diablo (rear, sides and window shape) -the Diablo is a well-known sports car, while the Vector isn't so famous -only 14 production model Vector M12s were built, so it's highly unlikely to be found on a city street -with the exception of GTA San Andreas, it was based on Lambo in every GTA game So, the developers certainly wanted the Infernus to be based on a Lamborghini Diablo. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote I disagree: The CR-V has a smaller grille, and none of the vehicles mentioned above on the page has the same front bumper and wheel arches as the Grand Cherokee/Landstalker. But I agree with the second part of your sentence, the rear might be from the Freelander. Whatever, I still think it's a CR-V with Freelander headlight and rear. Whatever this car becomes identified to next is going to be incorrect anyways, because the Ford Escape and second gen GC don't have spare tires on the back. Besides, this ain't worth my time anyways, the car is too tippy and hard to drive, it didn't become decent until GTA 4. Also, who am I to judge? Half the unlicensed cars on this site are identified wrong anyways. I'm done with this discussion. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | K20lover199 wrote I wasn't saying that the WHOLE car is a Freelander. The front and sides are a CR-V and the back and headlights are from a Freelander. I disagree:  The CR-V has a smaller grille, and none of the vehicles mentioned above on the page has the same front bumper and wheel arches as the Grand Cherokee/Landstalker. But I agree with the second part of your sentence, the rear might be from the Freelander. -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 22:01:12 | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote And actually, the Freelander isn't so similar to the Landstalker I wasn't saying that the WHOLE car is a Freelander. The front and sides are a CR-V and the back and headlights are from a Freelander. -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 18:47:59 | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | I dunno what vehicle it really is and I'm not saying that it's a Land Rover but they can put anything they want to the game .gif ";)") | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Sajmon14 wrote Aren't the devs from UK? Rockstar North is located in Edinburgh, Scotland, but why would they add a British SUV to a game, which is set in the USA? And actually, the Freelander isn't so similar to the Landstalker:  | |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | ◘○•♀! wrote Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. Congrats, you're so immature. | |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | ◘○•♀! wrote Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. makkaraperunat wrote Yeah, and stop with the terrible pictures. If you have a computer that can't even run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in frigging 2017 don't even bother. Welcome back again, makkaraperunat. I have these and still CAN run. Who's the first world ponyfag one? And congrats again for being banned for second time -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 15:13:41 | |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | ◘○•♀! wrote Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. Congratulations , you are banned for trolling and saying profanity -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 13:59:36 | |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | ◘○•♀! wrote Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. banned | |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | GamerFIB7590 wrote Congrats, you just got an insta-ban Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 13:36:00 | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote Why would it be based on a Freelander, which wasn't available in the US when the game was released? Aren't the devs from UK? | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Oh, so now it's listed as Made For Game... fantastic. Okay, so I'm trying to prove that it's based on a Jeep: Most cars in the GTA 3 are based on common and well-known vehicles. There's only one SUV in the game, so it's most likely based on something popular. The Jeep Grand Cherokee was one of the most common SUVs in the late 90's US, so the Landstalker is more likely based on it instead of some rare Japanese SUV. Why would it be based on a Freelander, which wasn't available in the US when the game was released? Or the Escape, which was a far less common vehicle?  There are only minimal differences. | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote Around 75% of modern Spanish is derived from Latin - Wikipedia I believe French, Portuguese, Italian and English are also largely based on Latin. Your point? | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote And the name of the Infernus is obviously a reference to the Diablo: Diablo=devil (Spanish) Inferno=hell (Latin) You're oversimplifying things. Round and rounded are two different things, just like Spanish and Latin are different languages. | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | You should probably know these comparison pictures are very subjective. It all depends on which lines you decide to draw. The Infernus is very round, like the Vector. The Diablo is very square. | |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Here's the comparison of the Vector and the Diablo: The rear is quite generic but the shape is much closer to the Diablo than the Vector. The Vector has different shaped door. The windows shape is definitely from the Diablo. The Vector has air intakes on the sides, while the Diablo and the Infernus has not. The cockpit is positioned further forward on the Vector. So, as I said earlier, only the front bumper, the headlights and the spoiler is from the Vector, almost everything else is from the Diablo. -- Last edit: 2017-04-09 23:59:15 | |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | ♣♠b•◘ wrote Congrats, you're retarded. Congrats, you just got an insta-ban Now PM me on Gmail - Where did you come from? Mars? Jupiter? YouTube spambot (Since YouTube is the homeland of trolls/spambots)? Also this, EXCUSE my aggressor since i still remember there's another provocation user next to uwotm8 (Also seen this comment with the link of page below) uwotm8 wrote -- Last edit: 2017-04-09 17:28:02 | |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | ♣♠b•◘ wrote Congrats, you're retarded. banned because fake account only for provocation | |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Aginnon wrote My bad. Thought the '85 RX-7 had the same wheels. Congrats, you're retarded. | |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98 wrote And about the Infernus: the sides, the shape of the windows and the rear is definitely from a Diablo. And furthermore, only 14 Vector M12s were built - so it's unlikely that the person who modeled the Infernus, decided to base it on an almost unknown, extremely rare sports car. Vectors were actually quite popular in 90s Arcade Racing Games, so you'd be wrong to say they are unknown. |
