2002 Ferrari Enzo





Surname: Grotti Cheetah

Class: Coupé

Origin: IT Italy

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FR Skyline159 photo_librarymode_comment

2020-06-24 18:50
Available in solo after the mission "I Fought the Law...".
RU AudiRS4 photo_librarymode_comment

2019-09-16 17:20
carcrasher88 wrote
Could the car shown in this image be the same car?

images.wikia.com/gtawiki/images/a/a8/Zonda-Huayra-GTAV.jpg

A nice IV-ish damage system. It's a shame that R* removed it


US generalrusty78 photo_librarymode_comment

2018-04-12 15:03
Forget the last 50 years of technological advancement and hark back to the golden age of driving before seatbelts, DUI laws, anti-lock brakes and emasculating GPS systems with nagging female voices. A prototype sports car manufactured by Grotti in the early 1970s, this marvel of Italian engineering will over-compensate for just about anything. Just like the Italians
BR LuizM photo_librarymode_comment

2017-01-30 01:48
This car remember the SSC Tuatara


ID GamerFIB7590 photo_librarymode_comment

2016-05-25 08:05
GamerFIB7590 wrote
Looks more like Ferrari 458 Italia Mansory Siracusa

Or Fahrradi Farfalla FFX. I think it's the closest one


LB speedfreak975 photo_librarymode_comment

2015-08-29 16:16
GamerFIB7590 wrote
Looks more like Ferrari 458 Italia Mansory Siracusa

More like nimrod 458 (white one),which is based of an FXX which is based of an Enzo so it's good


ID GamerFIB7590 photo_librarymode_comment

2015-08-29 15:34
Looks more like Ferrari 458 Italia Mansory Siracusa


US Black Bart photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-20 00:41
Don't push it...
UK routemaster45 photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-20 00:37
Finally! There's an end to the madness. So is it actually a confirmed Enzo now, or is it something else (?)


US Black Bart photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-19 19:06
For the last time, I'm filing this as an Enzo. It looks like it and most of us agree on it; Ferrari Enzo - done deal
UK LouisSanderson photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-19 18:08
Unknown again! Come on, we all agree it's a Enzo.


US Black Bart photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-19 14:58
I had it a few days ago as an Enzo. But someone else keeps changing it to something else. You said it yourself; it mostly looks like an Enzo and most of us agree on that.
AU dragonboy photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-19 14:33
This car is changing its official identity way too much, can it not just be left alone as something, i dont think ive seen a car create so much debate in quite a hwile. its been listed as made for game, as unknown, as ferrari unknown, as an enzo as the laferrari back when we thought it was that. I mean honesty this is getting ridiculous. Clearly the majority concesus of us regard it to look like an enzo, if you genuinely look at it properly, it is majority enzo. Not entirely, but this is GTA so its never gona be a licensed reproduction, but this is clearly a close interpretation by rockstar. So can this finally be listed as something and be left alone


US Black Bart photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-19 14:17
BTW, no vehicle in this game is licensed. Hell, no vehicle in the GTA franchise is licensed.


US Black Bart photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-19 14:12
I did. We all clearly see this as some sort of a Ferrari model.
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-19 14:09
Seriously who is changing that to Ferrari Unknown all the time, when it clearly is not licenced. Manufacturer unknown should be used in cases where car was licenced, but graphics, car position or lack of details makes it impossible to identify further. Here we can see every side of the car and since you can't say it's one models of the Ferrari it can't stay like that.


US Black Bart photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-19 14:07
We all know it's a Ferrari, so I'll leave it as a Ferrari Unknown. BTW, not every part of the car has to be related to its real-life counterpart. Personally, I say if at least 75% of the car is related to any actual car, it should get filed as what it mostly looks like. I repeat, MOSTLY looks like.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-18 21:16
At the end of the day, you should be looking at evidence, not just opinions. Like the Carbonizare, everything here is lifted from a single car (the Enzo), aside from a few details at one end (in this case, the rear). If the Carbonizare is a Zagato, then this is an Enzo. Similarly, if the Watson Revenge in Burnout Paradise is considered an Enzo, this is undoubtedly one as well.
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-18 16:56
Seriously, you want name change, decide between yourself because I'm tired of one people screaming Enzo, other screaming P4/5 and someone telling it's not either of them. Until you will have common point about the name it should stay as it is or Unknown.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-18 13:46
If you take the time to look at it properly, it is only the very back of the car that is not Enzo (spoiler, rear lights etc.), although even the rear splitter is taken directly from it.
UK routemaster45 photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-17 16:27
the only enzo element in it is the front, up to the front windsheild, but then after that, the car looks nothing like an enzo
idk photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-16 17:07
i agree with P4/5 tbh
AU dragonboy photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-16 16:13
Nope, more of the body as proven above numerous times is enzo, compared to the P4/5. There are some element of P4/5 in it, but is still majority enzo. Also the P4/5 was based on an Enzo anyway
TH PikesPeak photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-16 14:04
but , still P4/5 because it have Cheetah have dome-style roof like P4/5 while Enzo don't have that kind of design....
AU dragonboy photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-16 13:55
Theres more agreeing for Enzo
TH PikesPeak photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-16 13:26
No , it's Ferrari P4/5 for sure! with some Enzo elements
UK LouisSanderson photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-16 13:21
Still unknown! I thought people would have realized it's clearly a Enzo by now.


ES alatriste2003 photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-05 19:48
It's clearly a Ferrari. I think it's a Ferrari Enzo


US Shinka Nibutani photo_librarymode_comment

2014-03-05 00:58
Pagani Zonda Tricolore.
TH PikesPeak photo_librarymode_comment

2014-02-28 10:27
^ are you shetting me
CA FrankieCheeks75 photo_librarymode_comment

2014-02-07 16:16
Igcdb, put this as a Ferrari Enzo.


MX IanE55 photo_librarymode_comment

2014-01-08 09:26
Tuppence870 wrote
It has:

Enzo hood shape
Enzo hood vents
Enzo front fenders
Enzo rear fenders
Enzo front grille
Enzo nose
Enzo doors
Enzo windshield
Enzo wheelbase
Enzo side-skirts
Enzo rear splitter
Enzo wheel arches (seriously, look at the GIF again)
etc.

458 Headlights
LaFerrari sidepod
FXX spoiler
P4/5-ish rear

(note that all of these cars except the 458 are Enzo-based, so it is likely that Rockstar took elements of all these cars for the Cheetah)

There is very little that isn't Enzo. I really don't understand why you insist this car to NOT be named Enzo...

I think it also has tailights from the GTA Spano
AU dragonboy photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-21 09:54
Im gonna agree with Enzo, originally i did agree with Laferrari but we know where its ended up now, but when you look at it, if you really are looking at it properly, it looks as much an enzo as the "carbonnizare" looks like the v12 zagato


US Black Bart photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-20 20:46
Tuppence870 wrote
It has:

Enzo hood shape
Enzo hood vents
Enzo front fenders
Enzo rear fenders
Enzo front grille
Enzo nose
Enzo doors
Enzo windshield
Enzo wheelbase
Enzo side-skirts
Enzo rear splitter
Enzo wheel arches (seriously, look at the GIF again)
etc.

458 Headlights
LaFerrari sidepod
FXX spoiler
P4/5-ish rear


Sound like that's enough info for the car to be an Enzo.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-20 16:37
civic_eg6_94 wrote
@Tuppence:
The roof lines are more curvy, similar to P4/5.


I had considered this, but the shape of the windshield structure is still closer to that of an Enzo. I think it's safe to say that any curvier features on the car are somewhat inspired by the P4/5 though.

civic_eg6_94 wrote
And yeah. The car does take a lot of styling fro many Ferrari models. I think it's safe to say it should be listed as "Ferrari unknown".


Most of these Ferrari models are also cars based on the Enzo (P4/5, FXX, LaFerrari).

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PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-20 14:08
I respect Rinspeed's wish, so I will leave this without comment.
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-20 12:18
Since it's not licenced in any way it can be MFG, which was of course unnaceptable for some members.


ID civic_eg6_94 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-20 11:18
@Tuppence:
The roof lines are more curvy, similar to P4/5.

And yeah. The car does take a lot of styling fro many Ferrari models. I think it's safe to say it shoould be listed as "Ferrari unknown".


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 14:38
That sounds like a good idea, but I'm not sure if a characters studio would be working with vehicles...

If that doesn't work, we could just look at the facts here, because they should mean a lot more than simple opinions. That's why I put so much time into these complex analyses - I look at the evidence available and try to get the most accurate identification.

Admittedly, I haven't put much effort into looking at the Pininfarina P4/5, so I'll do that now:



The best that the P4/5 provides are a few minor cues. Notably, this seems to be the inspiration for the more curved structures, but the bodywork above the Cheetah's wheels is notably taller than the P4/5's. Some of the side vents were also inspired by this car, with the sidepod and sideskirt using similar lines to the Cheetah. Aside from this, there is very little P4/5 to be found.

And based on my analysis of every car involved, here is the real Cheetah:



Created in MS Paint, this masterpiece takes an Enzo as its base, with 458 headlights, LaFerrari sidepod and P4/5 side skirt.

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RB Mark0 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 14:08
There are one developer team from Serbia that made character models for GTA IV and GTA V. I can contact them and ask them if they can ask Rockstar is this car based on Enzo,P4/5 or LaFerrari.


US NismoR35 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 03:26
The way I see it, Rockstar had probably taken quite a bit of time looking at an Enzo (in this case) and have created several sketches and concepts of ways of how to make the Cheetah look not as exactly like an Enzo, LaFerrari, 458, or P4/5, but make it look like a Ferrari-ish design in the end. I mean, even though this game has been the most detailed of all in the GTA franchise, it's still a game. I mean, clearly this car is implied as an Enzo, but to keep the final design not TOO close to the real car, they "fictionalized" it. I mean really, there's no other way to comprehend this. Just because the car has a few styling cues from another car doesn't automatically not label it as an Enzo, just because of a few of those details. Like Pikes said, this is just like the Ingot page...


CA XThUnDeRX photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 02:57
PikesPeak wrote
God , this is like Ingot in GTA IV page...


I made my personal feelings on this car, I have nothing else to comment about this.
People are just going way too crazy over this, in my opinion.
TH PikesPeak photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 02:26
God , this is like Ingot in GTA IV page...


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 01:48
Although it isn't everything, there certainly is some resemblance at the rear - just take a look at that carbon-fibre splitter:



CA XThUnDeRX photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 01:36
So I can see that this is quite a controversial topic at the moment, debating whether this car is based most off an Enzo, or a LaFerrari.

Personally, the way I see it, the first screenshot that was made available of the car, was released before the final production photos were even made for the LaFerrari. Now, it's possible that Rockstar might've gotten contact with Ferrari and they may have gotten a sneak peak, but personally, I'm not seeing how it could be a LaFerrari.

It does look strikingly like an Enzo, atleast when it comes to the front, but when you get to the back, it's not even remotely close. It's too rounded out, and the lights are not even of the same style as that of the Enzo's.

I'd say, the best thing that you could list it for now (until we happen to come across either an answer from RockStar or another car that looks closer to the Cheetah), would be that it was a "Made for Game" car.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 01:19
It has:

Enzo hood shape
Enzo hood vents
Enzo front fenders
Enzo rear fenders
Enzo front grille
Enzo nose
Enzo doors
Enzo windshield
Enzo wheelbase
Enzo side-skirts
Enzo rear splitter
Enzo wheel arches (seriously, look at the GIF again)
etc.

458 Headlights
LaFerrari sidepod
FXX spoiler
P4/5-ish rear

(note that all of these cars except the 458 are Enzo-based, so it is likely that Rockstar took elements of all these cars for the Cheetah)

There is very little that isn't Enzo. I really don't understand why you insist this car to NOT be named Enzo...

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JM . photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-19 01:03
hurr durr it's a fiero with a body kit
ffs it's the P4/5 concept


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-18 23:27
ChoclitBunny wrote

The front looks like Enzo, but the front wheel arches, headlights and cockpit look like 458.


Wheel arches are identical to Enzo:



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UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-17 20:01
ChoclitBunny wrote

A lot of you car maniacs will probably freak out if I say - like I said before - that the makers of GTA 5 might have us all fooled, by creating an amalgamation of what they like best in LaFerrari and Enzo combined with their own creativity.


It's more likely that R* took the best of the Enzo and added their own touches, unless you're trying to suggest they have a special deal with Ferrari and/or access to time travel.

ChoclitBunny wrote

Therefore it can not be identified and should unfortunately be filed as Made for game.


I disagree. The fact that this car in Burnout Paradise is listed as an Enzo proves otherwise.


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UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-17 15:40
ChoclitBunny wrote

Ferrari LaFerrari was introduced at the Geneva Car Show in March 2013.
GTA 5 was released in September 2013.

The earliest screenshot of this car was released in August 2012 (check the date of the earliest comments on this page).


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-17 02:25
ChoclitBunny wrote
The top of the rear end is different, but for the rest I can't think of any other car than Ferrari LaFerrari.
www.mrwallpaper.com/wallpapers/ferrari-laferrari-1024x768.jpg


Unfortunately, this car came before the LaFerrari, so can't be it.

Here's something that could help with identification - I morphed the Cheetah and Enzo together, and got this as the result:

Comparison GIF: i.imgur.com/1WdLMWK.gif
Halfway image: i.imgur.com/juGUECk.png

Also, some crude MS Paint work to disguise each car as the other:

En-tah: i.imgur.com/y8MfEFl.jpg
Chee-zo: i.imgur.com/OAGkzlG.jpg

And finally, I just noticed that the Cheetah's rear splitter is identical to the one on an Enzo.

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US Black Bart photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-11 23:58
I'm surprised that this car is now a unknown. I believe it is a Ferrari, don't know the model though.

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BenFord photo_librarymode_comment

2013-12-03 23:47
I'd say P4/5 with Enzo influence, but as the P4/5 is basically an Enzo anyway I'd say Enzo
ItsaUserName photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 19:27
Tuppence870 wrote
Let's say a 1982 game somehow predicted the exact appearance of the Lotus Elise. It would be Made For Game, since the actual Elise did not materialize until 1996, so the 1982 Game's car was created purely out of it's designers imagination, not a real-world example.

Which actually has happened before in a 1989 game called Astro Fang Super Machine. The rear end of the player's car looks exactly like the 1999 - 2004 Ford Mustang, but because not even the previous generation had been made at that point in time, and the front end doesn't look anything like a Mustang, it remained MFG. www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=5098


FR Rinspeed photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 17:48
best thing to do: stop talking to each other... And no, Tycek will not be revolved.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 16:13
I'm sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm trying to work something out here, but you're accusing me of things that I have never done. This is exactly why I believe your admin status should be revoked. Of course, we could just settle this like gentlemen, but I suppose that is out of the question?

Also, it turns out that Polish and English don't work particularly well in Google Translate - could this be a language problem?

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PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 16:11
Since you don't want to understand a thing out of this discussion I'm leaving it as it is. I'm talking about one thing, you're about another. You may even call it Trabant 501 for all I care.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 16:04
I would argue that IV's Banshee is more of a late 90's Viper, but I have literally just answered your other question above.

Tycek wrote
What I was trying to show here was the possibility of R* creating LaFerrari by coincidence. It's not impossible since it's Enzo successor. They simply rounded it here and there, changed headlights and side intake getting LaFerrari looking car in the end.


This is exactly what happened, but that makes it an Enzo, not a La Ferrari.

Evil Tim wrote
Um, well, sure, but you wouldn't ID that vessel as the Titanic, would you?


Exactly. It's an eerily similar production that happened to be similar without actually being related.


But anyway, Rinspeed really needs to hurry up and post that list of rules, since this is exactly the kind of confusion that not having one creates...


Tycek wrote
I said you're act like Marec and still think you do. You can't stand term MFG just like him and you will do everything, even attack other people and calling them names just to prove your point. He was acting exactly the same and he ended up badly. MFG isn't anything wrong and so cars are changed too much to be called one name. Is that so hard to understand?


I don't think I've ever called anybody a "name" (quote me if I'm wrong). Made For Game is fine, if it is used properly. But the problem is that nobody really knows how it is supposed to be used. In my mind, it is a car that has no relation to any real world vehicle (hence it has been "made for the game"). In this case, I would not say this is MFG.

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Evil Tim photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 16:03
Quote You know that one writer wrote a book about giant transatlantic vessel called "Titan" hitting a iceberg and sinking, killing many people in the catastrophe few years before 1912. Are you going to tell me he had a time machine? Same can be happening here.


Um, well, sure, but you wouldn't ID that vessel as the Titanic, would you?
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 16:01
Tuppence870 wrote

No. You started that months ago when you likened me to Marec, and it's exactly this which created the picture I see of you now. If you don't want personal attacks, then don't attack other people. If you want to be trusted, then start listening to the people you are working to support. It's not an attack, it's a recommendation, so please treat it as one.


I said you're act like Marec and still think you do. You can't stand term MFG just like him and you will do everything, even attack other people and calling them names just to prove your point. He was acting exactly the same and he ended up badly. MFG isn't anything wrong and so cars are changed too much to be called one name. Is that so hard to understand?


Tuppence870 wrote


Back on topic - you agree that this looks like a LaFerrari? I agree that this looks like a LaFerrari, but we both know this is impossible. The closest cars that it can be are the Enzo and P4/5. Both are very possible and both share features with this car. I believe it is an Enzo, civic believes it is a P4/5 and others believe many things. Just because there is disagreement does not mean that this is MFG. What we need to do is try to agree on something and stop jumping to conclusions.

If you think this is an Enzo, post about it.
If you think this is a P4/5, post about it.
If you think something else, post about it.
When there is general agreement over what this is, then we can identify it.
Until then, it should remain "unknown".


Since you agreed it looks like LaFerrari what's the problem here? Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we suppose to judge vehicles by what they look like, not what they were based on? What I was trying to show here was the possibility of R* creating LaFerrari by coincidence. It's not impossible since it's Enzo successor. They simply rounded it here and there, changed headlights and side intake getting LaFerrari looking car in the end. Just look at IV Banshee. It looks more like last Viper than previous one and we know it wasn't possible for them to see one in 2007 or earlier. Same can be here, but you're like to jumping to conclusion it's not possible. I didn't say R* have seen LaFerrari and based Cheetah on it. I'm saying R* made something resembling one by coincidence.

You know that one writer wrote a book about giant transatlantic vessel called "Titan" hitting a iceberg and sinking, killing many people in the catastrophe few years before 1912. Are you going to tell me he had a time machine? Same can be happening here.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 16:01
I'm going to have to correct you there. Let's say a 1982 game somehow predicted the exact appearance of the Lotus Elise. It would be Made For Game, since the actual Elise did not materialize until 1996, so the 1982 Game's car was created purely out of it's designers imagination, not a real-world example.

Also, when the actual props artist of Deus Ex: Human Revolution visited IGCD and told us what each car was based upon, his suggestions were all accepted even though some of his cars had changed drastically through development: www.igcd.net/game.php?id=100003209

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Evil Tim photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 15:56
I'm not entirely sure there's a difference between those two things.
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 15:52
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we suppose to judge vehicles by what they look like, not what they were based on?



UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 15:45
Tycek wrote
So now we're starting with personal attacks?

No. You started that months ago when you likened me to Marec, and it's exactly this which created the picture I see of you now. If you don't want personal attacks, then don't attack other people. If you want to be trusted, then start listening to the people you are working to support. It's not an attack, it's a recommendation, so please treat it as one.




Back on topic - you agree that this looks like a LaFerrari? I agree that this looks like a LaFerrari, but we both know this is impossible. The closest cars that it can be are the Enzo and P4/5. Both are very possible and both share features with this car. I believe it is an Enzo, civic believes it is a P4/5 and others believe many things. Just because there is disagreement does not mean that this is MFG. What we need to do is try to agree on something and stop jumping to conclusions.

If you think this is an Enzo, post about it.
If you think this is a P4/5, post about it.
If you think something else, post about it.
When there is general agreement over what this is, then we can identify it.
Until then, it should remain "unknown".

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ID civic_eg6_94 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 15:27
*sigh* here goes the battle between LaFerrari vs Enzo in this page again. I don't want to made another argument, but for me, it's more of a P4/5 with an Enzo front and Agera rear. If you don't agree with me, it's fine. But just a head up why I chose the P4/5 is because this car is a production concept (unlike Enzo which is a production car) and it's more plausible with the first video and picture appearance of the Cheetah (LaFerrari was introduced a year after the first Cheetah appearance in the trailer).
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 15:02
So now we're starting with personal attacks? Just great. I don't see Enzo here, if you see it then it's okay. For me it's rather generic Enzo + LaFerrari + Agera + God know what mashup. I am not the only mod here, so if you convince other one to change it to Enzo go ahead. And yes I root for chasing personal pursuit as I got something from this page. Stop joking.

Let people what they want or do you meant let you what you want, because you're pushing it the hardest to Enzo? For me it can be everything, even MFG. Like that changes something.

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UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 14:29
Are you kidding me? More than half the design is lifted directly from the Enzo - at least 10 people have posted this above and the proof is fairly undeniable. And this car has much more in common with the Enzo than the Carbonizzare has with the Aston Martin Zagato. You just can't admit you're wrong on this, and you'd rather label this as a generic nothing than let people get what they want. It makes me wonder how you became an admin, since you only ever root for your own personal pursuits and never the needs of your community.

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PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 14:13
Since it's not LaFerrari and too far from being a Enzo - MFG will be the best choice probably.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 12:58
Tycek wrote
It's cool how you didn't highlight several features that are shared by both Cheetah and LaFerrari.


Okay, let's give it a shot:



This is everything I could find (excluding the colour scheme, which is obviously similar).

Obviously, the LaFerrari is the Enzo's latest successor, so they are very similar cars anyway. In the case of the Cheetah, many of its features are taken directly from the Enzo, which also makes it seem similar to the LaFerrari. However, it is still an Enzo at heart and always will be.

This is how the Cheetah's Enzo-like lines would look when juxtaposed on a LaFerrari:



As you can see, many of the lines are naturally similar, yet none of them are perfect. For example, the upper-right edge of the hood curves away much earlier on a LaFerrari than the Cheetah/Enzo. Also, the grille, wheel arches and doors have a larger and/or more rounded appearance on the LaFerrari. etc.

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PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 12:12
It's cool how you didn't highlight several features that are shared by both Cheetah and LaFerrari. Have it your way, I leave it open.


FI Antti-san photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 11:45
I don't really see anything from the LaFerrari in this - it's certainly closer to an Enzo than a LaFerrari. And frankly, the fact that this was first seen a year before the LaFerrari should mean we shouldn't even be having this discussion in the first place. :p

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UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 10:51
Looks like I need to start looking for jobs at Rockstar then, because they clearly have access to a time machine...


Although if you actually stop and think about it, it's clearly an Enzo. I've highlighted several features that are shared by both the Cheetah and Enzo, but do not appear on the LaFerrari.



As you can see, the Cheetah has the Enzo's nose, grille, hood, doors, front fenders, wheel arches and windows. The LaFerrari only has those windows.

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PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 10:35
Since it was released 1 year before it can be LaFerrari. Just look at it, it doesn't matter when the car was revealed if the one in game is quite close to the real one. Maybe it's just coincidence, but it stays as LaFerrari.
US Ragref photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-25 03:14
The P4/5 does look very close to the Cheetah. The LaFerrari was released 1 year after the first Cheetah screenshot so it's impossible to say it's a Ferrari LaFerrari.

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UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-11-02 17:19
I forgot about the Ferrari P4/5, but it does seem very close. I'd say it is one, but with an Enzo-like front, because LaFerrari is simply out of the question.


ID civic_eg6_94 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-10-26 19:28
I think they intend to create some kind of production concept parody of Ferrari P4/5, and adding Enzo nose to make it a bit generic. I believe the 2nd Trailer is around 2012 when the first front view of Cheetah were revealed, and Ferrari didn't give the LaFerrari design to public (even R*) and there are no news about leaked LaFerrari design in 2012. If they intend to make it based on LaFerrari, then the LaFerrari design should be leaked/shown around early to mid 2012.
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2013-10-26 17:51
Either they've seen the Ferrari before its premiere, or changes made to Enzo turned it into LaFerrari. It looks almost exactly like one, even if LaFerrari came later than the first screenshot.

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ID civic_eg6_94 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-10-26 17:39
PikesPeak wrote
How come it's LaFerrari? The first screenshot of this car back in 2012 like RacerBest said....while LaFerrari appears in Geneva Motor Show 2013

I sense Ferrari P4/5 than LaFerrari cuz P4/5 appears in 2006 which that make sense

media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/pininfarina-ferrari-p45-placement-photo-456125-s-original.jpg


After seeing the P4/5, it's safe to say that this is a P4/5. It still have that dome-shaped roof and it's more sense with the appearance of the first screenshot (P4/5 in 2006, first shot of Cheetah in 2012, LaFerrari in 2013). Plus, it's a production version of a concept car (similar to the Cheetah bio in the website).
ItsaUserName photo_librarymode_comment

2013-10-26 17:27
Maybe, like the Koenigsegg in SF Rush, the developers were given premature access to the car before anyone else.
TH PikesPeak photo_librarymode_comment

2013-10-26 16:15
How come it's LaFerrari? The first screenshot of this car back in 2012 like RacerBest said....while LaFerrari appears in Geneva Motor Show 2013

I sense Ferrari P4/5 than LaFerrari cuz P4/5 appears in 2006 which that make sense



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FI Antti-san photo_librarymode_comment

2013-10-10 01:40
RacerBest wrote
This can't be LaFerrari, because Rockstar already posted screenshot of Cheetah back in 2012, and LaFerrari was first time unveiled at Geneva Motor Show in March 2013.

Indeed.
US carcrasher88 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-30 16:03
Definitely an Enzo, with a similar front end stripe to that of the SSC Ultimate Aero and GTA Spano-esque rear lights.
FI RacerBest photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-30 15:51
This can't be LaFerrari, because Rockstar already posted screenshot of Cheetah back in 2012, and LaFerrari was first time unveiled at Geneva Motor Show in March 2013.
So Rockstar couldn't use LaFerrari as their model for this car.

I would say the front and sides are inspired from Ferrari Enzo.
AU dragonboy photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-30 07:42
Doesnt matter what the description describes it being inspired. As a car, this is clearly a LaFerrari, with the very back part being koenigsegg. id say 90% Ferrari 10% Koenigsegg, so ferrari wins
US CaptainMe93 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-30 01:39
According to its description on the in-game website that sells the car, it's apparently supposed to be a prototype from the early 1970s.

\"Forget the last 50 years of technological advancement and hark back to the golden age of driving before seatbelts, DUI laws, anti-lock brakes and emasculating GPS systems with nagging female voices. A prototype sports car manufactured by Grotti in the early 1970s, this marvel of Italian engineering will over-compensate for just about anything. Just like the Italians.\"

Based on this description, it appears to be based on the 1970 Ferrari 512 S, which also served as the basis for a one-off concept, the 512 S Berlinetta Speciale.

Ferrari 512 S:


Ferrari 512 S Berlinetta Speciale:
ItsaUserName photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-29 11:14
The 70s concept being the P3/4? The community-made Cheetah addon for GTA IV, which is considered semi-canon bases it on a P3/4:
FR SolanaBogon photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-29 10:19
The description ingame says it is based on a 70s concept car or something like that...
ES mansory_vs_gemballa photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-29 01:01
GTA 3 1996 Ferrari F512 M 'Cheetah'
GTA Vice City 1986 Ferrari Testarossa 'Cheetah'
GTA san andreas Ferrari Testarossa 'Cheetah'
GTA IV no
GTA V Ferrari Enzo 'Cheetah'
'Cheetah' = Ferrari
AU dragonboy photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-18 13:08
Im gonna agree on LaFerrari or Enzo, only the very back is agera, everything else is ferrari


BR Attacker1997 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-17 23:23
car-dude44 wrote
Here's a better front/side shot:



It is definitely the new Ferrari LaFerrari, not a Koenigsegg Agera. Not only does it look a lot more like it, the Cheetah had always been a Ferrari before.


Nice Observation


ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-09-10 15:15
I see hints of GTA Spano on this one after seeing the whole thing...
US matt__jon photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-31 01:22
It may be great on the track, but its hard on the eyes. Ferrari's designers must have been on strike when they made the Enzo. It is absolutely hideous. The Hammerhead Eagle iThrust is a better looking car than the Enzo


MX IanE55 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-20 04:29
matt__jon wrote
What a shame, the cheetah used to be such a beautiful car, now its mostly based on the enzo, one of the ugliest Ferraris of all time. Couldn't just base it on a 458

What the hell are you on about? The Enzo is one of the greatest Ferraris ever made.
US matt__jon photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-17 23:14
What a shame, the cheetah used to be such a beautiful car, now its mostly based on the enzo, one of the ugliest Ferraris of all time. Couldn't just base it on a 458
PL Hamisxa photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-16 15:21
Ferrari FXX front
CA car-dude44 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-16 00:48
Tuppence870 wrote
Possibly, but the LaFerrari concept is younger than the oldest screenshot of this car.

I think this still looks very close to a Ferrari Enzo (particularly in the front bumper, doors and roof shape):



True, it does have a strong resemblance to the Enzo as well. The LaFerrari is the successor to the Enzo, so I guess either could make sense, really. The back and roof area are a lot more modern looking than the Enzo.
ItsaUserName photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-15 23:24
The Black/Carbon parts may also be inspired off of the FXX.


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-15 23:22
Possibly, but the LaFerrari concept is younger than the oldest screenshot of this car.

I think this still looks very close to a Ferrari Enzo (particularly in the front bumper, doors and roof shape):



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MX IanE55 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-15 21:20
Looks extremely similar to the LaFerrari
CA car-dude44 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-08-15 21:02
Here's a better front/side shot:



It is definitely the new Ferrari LaFerrari, not a Koenigsegg Agera. Not only does it look a lot more like it, the Cheetah had always been a Ferrari before.

US gta&sr.12 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-07-21 13:59
in gta sa this was my favorite car and im getting a xbox for 14th birtday and i am definatly looking for this car when i get this game


UK Tuppence870 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-07-09 23:41
Aside from some of the rear details, this seems to be more of a Ferrari Enzo.
PL Hamisxa photo_librarymode_comment

2013-04-14 12:44
Front is a SSC Ultimate Aero
US carcrasher88 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-04-10 03:44
Well, historically, the Cheetah's engine has apparently been a V10, but considering the modern trend of V8 powered supercars, I wouldn't be surprised to see a V8 with 2 turbos under the hood/in the rear.

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US BattleMachines2009 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-04-10 02:31
I see a mix of different supercars in this. I see a little Pagani Huayra in this; mostly the grille on the front. I also see a little SSC Ultimate Aero in it because of the blue with black stripe. Any idea what kind of engine it's going to have? V10? V12?
BR VintageGamer13 photo_librarymode_comment

2013-03-27 19:53
I would like the cheetah was still a Ferrari. But this cheetah continue beautiful
US GTAmaniac photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-20 15:09
mr.mopar69 wrote
Well, in that second image, the white car chasing it looks like a Maserati Quattroporte.

Nope, the white car is a F620
PL Spino photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-15 16:45
@UP
You are right! So... this is actually a mix between Koenigsegg, Pagani, Lamborghini and SSC? O_O
US carcrasher88 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-14 22:53
Black section of the front end (from the windshield to the bumper) is similar to that of the SSC Ultimate Aero, too.

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PL Spino photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-14 22:49
Agera, Zonda and Reventon... what an interesting mix :think:
US mr.mopar69 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-14 21:27
Well, in that second image, the white car chasing it looks like a Maserati Quattroporte.
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-14 19:03
Judging by the rims, front and side intakes, yes it's the same car.


FI Antti-san photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-14 18:52
I think so.
US carcrasher88 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-14 18:51
Could the car shown in this image be the same car?

images.wikia.com/gtawiki/images/a/a8/Zonda-Huayra-GTAV.jpg
PL Hamisxa photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-12 18:33
Tycek wrote
I'm not gonna get in some childish argument with guy who thinks that he discovered America, because he found that Los Santos where game will take place (which is known since november 2011) is located in San Andreas (which is known since october 2004).


Man all I'm saying that the License plate says it that's all.........
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-12 14:04
I'm not gonna get in some childish argument with guy who thinks that he discovered America, because he found that Los Santos where game will take place (which is known since november 2011) is located in San Andreas (which is known since october 2004).


US NismoR35 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-12 08:34
Hamisxa wrote


I'm living under a rock under your ma's bed......





I'm sorry, but is this really escalating into the childish jokes here?
PL Hamisxa photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-12 08:18
Tycek wrote
According to many sources we'll get one city called Los Santos. Under what rock are you living?


I'm living under a rock under your ma's bed......
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-11 01:29
According to many sources we'll get one city called Los Santos. Under what rock are you living?
PL Hamisxa photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-11 00:37
NismoR35 wrote


Where were you all this time? Everybody knew it was already San Andreas when Los Santos was mentioned...


I know but I'm just sayin' that it's now 100% sure because it could be different. The city just could be called Los Santos lol


US NismoR35 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-05 01:23
Hamisxa wrote
Guys look at the top of the License plate it says "San Andreas" so it's now 100% confirmed :D


Where were you all this time? Everybody knew it was already San Andreas when Los Santos was mentioned...
PL Tycek photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-05 00:50
What is confirmed by that licence plate?

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PL Hamisxa photo_librarymode_comment

2012-11-05 00:50
Guys look at the top of the License plate it says "San Andreas" so it's now 100% confirmed :D


US NismoR35 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-10-09 05:07
caio fivetech wrote



Maybe the Cheetah was the Testarossa and the Cheeta is a new model of the same make...







Wouldn't it hurt that much to read the PREVIOUS Comments first....

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BR caio fivetech photo_librarymode_comment

2012-10-09 04:57
racersg wrote
It says Cheeta, not Cheetah. :lol:



Maybe the Cheetah was the Testarossa and the Cheeta is a new model of the same make...
EU sexmo racing photo_librarymode_comment

2012-09-11 19:21
el nuevo cheetah es parecido a este: www.autos.es/media/ferrari61.jpg


ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-25 07:53
BattleMachines2009 wrote
because it makes no sense to reuse the GTA IV model.


It actually does.

GTA V is set in the same "universe" and time line as IV, just 4 years later, so the cars are almost the same, there are obviously new models, but models already seen in IV doesn't have to change at all, maybe some of them have restylings now, but in this case, the Infernus is exactly the same as it was in IV. It just have new rims and a carbon lip in the bumper, mo major changes.


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US BattleMachines2009 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-25 04:55
I just looked at the new screens, and the new police helicopter is a Eurocopter AS350. Hopefully, the Infernus will be closer to an Aventador, because it makes no sense to reuse the GTA IV model.
US BattleMachines2009 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-24 23:43
lcpdcv wrote
Uh, you didn't see the new screens? :/

I must admit, I've been focusing on helping someone move in, so I haven't had a lot of Internet time.
US lcpdcv photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-24 22:22
Uh, you didn't see the new screens? :/
US BattleMachines2009 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-24 22:21
I'm going to guess this will be the fastest car in GTA V. Hopefully, the Infernus will be in GTA V.
CA Officer Sandwiches photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-21 05:57
sajmon14 wrote
I see what they did there, now you can't tell if its a reflection or really its just "Cheeta" :p

It's fairly obviously "Cheetah" since the reflection makes the H disappear. Without the H, it's off-center on the car.


PL sajmon14 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-21 00:06
I see what they did there, now you can't tell if its a reflection or really its just "Cheeta" :p
US lcpdcv photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 22:08
racersg wrote
It says Cheeta, not Cheetah. :lol:

Also, when was this in the trailer???

The sun ref is blocking out the H. :whistle:

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US carcrasher88 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 21:50
It wasn't (at least, not that I know of), Rockstar posted this on their website (probably on Facebook and Twitter, too).
US racersg photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 21:47
It says Cheeta, not Cheetah. :lol:

Also, when was this in the trailer???


DE Nayrox photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 20:05
The new Cheetah seems to be very similiar to the designs of the Koenigsegg Agera, GTA Spano and last but not least the Tesla Roadster :D

www.carpassion.com/bilder/data/521/KoenigseggAgera_3.jpg

www.automobil-news.de/gta/gta_spano_b.jpg

www.autostylized.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Tesla-Roadster.jpg
PT Ford78 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 18:47
The new chetaah is very beautifull...........


PL sajmon14 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 16:53
Not a Testarossa anymore, but doesnt matter, looks nice
NL Gijs571 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 16:25
Hell yeah :D


RB Mark0 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 16:10
Nice :D
US carcrasher88 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 16:04
That looks like a lot of fun right there. :D


ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

2012-08-20 15:43
The Cheetah is back! :D

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