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Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	AutoTracker 2015-12-06 18:55	Oh god, please don't start the Primo Wars. We just finished with this and then we have to deal with that... Unbelieveable.
Chevrolet Impala Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Mcthieve 2015-12-06 18:42	alatriste2003 wrote And a offtopic, my personal Custom Voodoo Lowrider : prod.hosted.cloud.rockstargames.com/ugc/gta5photo/urApZLu6RkWFwt_lWhujXg_0_0.jpg Well now that you mention i would like to say that i like to keep it let's say "traditional" postimg.org/image/heit5jnc9/ (now on michael's mansion instead of the rusty one)
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tycek 2015-12-06 18:41	Tuppence870 wrote I had mentioned the black plastic on the rear shot, and it is one of few details that does seem similar with the Subaru, however there is a lot more in common with the Skyline. Not only that but the plastic on the Stratum runs around the whole car, but on the Subaru there are large gaps between the front/rear and the wheel arches, so I wouldn't say it's a close match and certainly not enough to disregard everything else. As for the window thing, I think you're talking about the curve between the C-pillar and the bottom of the rear window? I had marked that on the frontal shot but forgot to add it at the rear. From the front it appears to match with both vehicles, but from the rear it was hard to deduce the effect on the Skyline since it has no window to use as a frame of reference. Black stripes running around the car, with gaps or without them are still better than no gaps at all and Skyline has none. Also if you look on pic I posted the link for, you realize that some Subarus got that black stripe on the front bumper with turn signals incorporated into, which was never present on any Skyline. And I was talking about the tan/beige line you had on your pictures. Both Stratum and Impreza got glasshouse much narrower that the rest of the body which creates visible line on the side of the body. Skyline doesn't have anything like that. Funny how you completely disregard taillights look, which are almost the same as on Subaru, just with additional segment added. I am not saying it's not Skyline. I am saying it's a hodgepodge between two cars. And what is percentage of importance of both of them? Also if this is Skyline, then this igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=59384 is Allante. Talking about double standards.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-12-06 17:40	Tycek wrote Not to be picky, but you took wrong Subaru to comparison. It's actually this one: www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CIMG0449.jpg with the black stipes on doors and front bumper, which are obviously present on Stratum as well (just slightly longered). Line of the back narrowing right below the window also seems, to fit as well as some minor details. Also what happened here? We don't talk about that anymore
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	AutoTracker 2015-12-06 16:51	This, the Elegy, and the Warrener are all Skylines (even though the Elegy technically isn't a Skyline). I'm happy the Stratum Wars are over (hopefully)
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	alatriste2003 2015-12-06 16:30	So at least it's a Skyline R32. I'm happy now xD. Interesting, in GTA V there are three differents Nissan Skylines. I hope there is peace now
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tuppence870 2015-12-06 11:48	Tycek wrote Not to be picky, but you took wrong Subaru to comparison. It's actually this one: www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CIMG0449.jpg with the black stipes on doors and front bumper, which are obviously present on Stratum as well (just slightly longered). Line of the back narrowing right below the window also seems, to fit as well as some minor details. I had mentioned the black plastic on the rear shot, and it is one of few details that does seem similar with the Subaru, however there is a lot more in common with the Skyline. Not only that but the plastic on the Stratum runs around the whole car, but on the Subaru there are large gaps between the front/rear and the wheel arches, so I wouldn't say it's a close match and certainly not enough to disregard everything else. As for the window thing, I think you're talking about the curve between the C-pillar and the bottom of the rear window? I had marked that on the frontal shot but forgot to add it at the rear. From the front it appears to match with both vehicles, but from the rear it was hard to deduce the effect on the Skyline since it has no window to use as a frame of reference.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Lightwader 2015-12-06 10:17	Jesus, first the Ingot, now the Sultan causes a massive, further-more-aggressive discussion? Station wagons must have a curse on them.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tycek 2015-12-06 09:20	Not to be picky, but you took wrong Subaru to comparison. It's actually this one: www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CIMG0449.jpg with the black stipes on doors and front bumper, which are obviously present on Stratum as well (just slightly longered). Line of the back narrowing right below the window also seems, to fit as well as some minor details. Also what happened here? Burn Rubber wrote There. Is. No. Licensed. SKYLINE WAGON!!! So stop trying to change it to one! For the love of god, Im sick of this already. Im fine with either Accord or Subaru. Because, THEY EXIST!!! No official R32 Wagons were made. Ergo, It is NOT allowed on IGCD. And don't start with the Sileighty shit again because 500 official ones were made. It is not a R32 Wagon. Period. -- Last edit: 2015-12-06 09:22:51
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-12-06 02:03	(Snap) right on point! Lock stock and barrel. Literally today has provided more proof than even Rockstar could provide. JFK and Tuppence have pretty much 100% proved this is a Skyline with a wagon body. I agree with them. (Just ignore my old comments. ) but lets count it up why don't we? Skyline R32 Wagon: Myself, Tuppence, JFK, Challengerman123, Krq9, RacerBest, Salvation, Racedriver43, (8) Honda Accord: speedfreak975 (I think. It's hard to even read all this shit) (1) Subaru Wagon: Tycek, GeoZR177, AutoTracker (3) Skyline is 8/14. (If I read this right.) so can we please concor for Skyline after all of this (Another IGCD war, Tuppence and JFK proving it's Skyline) has been done? -- Last edit: 2015-12-06 02:20:44
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	AutoTracker 2015-12-06 02:00	Good. Let's hope this is the end of the Stratum Wars...
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tuppence870 2015-12-06 01:52	JFK wrote http://i.imgur.com/8H8iPNw.gif?1 I think morph gif is quite clear, I hope I saved some Tuppences time. Thanks for that . Although the morph doesn't seem to be working perfectly at the rear, that's saved me a lot of time and probably done a better job than what I've finally cobbled together. I had wanted to go a bit further with this one, but I figured I'd just get something quick done before I put it off again. Although I am supporting the Nissan (with good reason), I've tried to give the Subaru a fair chance. As you can see, there is a lot at the front of this vehicle that points towards Skyline, not just the headlights. Most notably is the feature line down the side, which runs an identical course both in-game and in reality, and is paired with a similarly identical shoulder over the rear wheel. The shape of the cabin area between the A and C pillars is very similar (although the Nissan is obviously missing a D-pillar), with geometric edges surrounding the sides and a roof that begins flat at the top of the windscreen. The hood bends downward in a single, flowing arc, and it has a bulge in the centre that runs the length of the hood, but doesn't reach the headlights/grille. The Subaru, while similar, has almost no influence on the front. The Subaru does have a feature line on the side, but it begins much earlier at the headlight, rather than the front wheel. Similarly, the Subaru lacks an additional shoulder line over the rear wheel. The Subaru's cabin is similar, but much more rounded in its approach. Notably, the roof still rises higher above the windscreen, as it is slightly domed. The side windows follow suit, but also have curved and right-angled bottoms to their lines, while the Stratum has sharp, triangular angles. There is also a new line present that runs parallel to the curved base of the windscreen, terminating almost a third of the way into the hood. This is not a feature of the Stratum. The hood is also flatter, but with a more noticeable curve downwards at the front end, while the hood bulge is wider and runs to the bottom of the grille. As for the D-pillar (the wagon part), while it is present on the Subaru (unlike the Nissan), it follows a different shape to the Stratum. The Stratum's trunk is much longer and curves gracefully to the back, while the Subaru's is short and stubby, creating a higher angle with the rear. Neither vehicle has the front bumper of the Stratum, although the shape is possibly similar to the Nissan and the indicator position is possibly similar to the Subaru. As we move rearward, some differences appear with the Skyline, but it is still faithful. The relative positions and distances between elements like the bottom of the window, both top edges of the bumper, taillight positions and the position of the indented line are very similar between the Stratum and Skyline. Text and badging also appear in similar positions (although Stratum/Skyline appear on opposite sides of the indented line). The "STRATUM" font is also similar to the "SKYLINE" font. The taillights do show some differences. The pattern is not the same, despite a similar outline. Also, the Stratum's lights curve around the side more than the Skyline's. The shape of this rear area is also different, as the Skyline's is a smooth curve, while the Stratum has a straight-up followed by a sharper curve. While it is proportionally correct, the bumpers are quite different, as the Skyline's cuts away earlier and doesn't feature a plastic strip. Details like license plate positions and exhausts are identical across all 3 cars. The Subaru does appear to be similar in some areas. These include the bumper, which is now taller and has plastic strips. But this is also deeper, along with other elements like taillights and the indented line, which are no longer positioned with the Stratum as successfully as the Skyline was. While the word "SUBARU" is positioned correctly, it is not as wide as on the Stratum and all other text is incorrectly placed. The taillight pattern, although visually similar, is not identical. The shape does wrap around the sides, but is shorter on the back face and is sometimes right-angled rather than curved. The wagon issues brought up earlier are now more obvious, as the Subaru's rear windscreen rises almost vertically while the Stratum's curves away dramatically to a horizontal plane. However, the shape of the area below is similar, with a curved shape followed by a flatter one. And now we move to one final detail. Some variants of the Stratum (those with a spoiler), claim that a 2.6l Twin Turbo sits under the hood. Only one production car has ever left a factory with that engine. That engine is the Nissan RB26DETT, which was used in the Nissan Skyline GT-R from 1989-2002. As I said previously, this car is a mix of Japanese sports sedans, including the Subaru, but predominantly the Nissan Skyline R32 Sedan is king. If my work here doesn't convince you, I'm afraid nothing will. But let's hope for the best.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-12-06 01:52	It's supposed to have been a Skyline but we have our retaliators (Lookin at you, chesty. I bet he did it) who are determined to make it a Accord. Well JFK pretty much put this to rest (I hope!) in proving its a R32. Admins tried to make it Made for Game and edit-lock it. But that didn't help at all. So one of these things will happen. 1. This will never end and will go on forever. 2. Seeing JFK's gif will put the truth in the others. 3. Admins will Made for Game edit-lock it and never take it off. 4. We will have to get in an edit war until someone backs down. Number 2 is the best option for all
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	speedfreak975 2015-12-06 01:32	So what's going on here I'm too lazy to read is this going to be skyline or accord because made for game is quite ridiculous honestly
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-12-06 00:26	If this doesn't work then nothing will.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	JFK 2015-12-05 23:59	I think morph gif is quite clear, I hope I saved some Tuppences time. -- Last edit: 2015-12-06 00:00:44
Tesla Roadster Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	JFK 2015-12-04 21:17	You know about the event that requires driving the longest distance without crashing? If my estimations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph in reverse, youre going to win that challenge. (Yeah, poor pun was said) Now seriously, this car is indeed very quick on reverse, nearly same speed as forward. I have worst textures, I couldnt really tell what speed was that, but my estimate is something over 70 mph.
Buick Regal T-Type Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	JFK 2015-12-04 15:31	speedfreak975 wrote So there is a normal faction and this ? Yes.
Buick Regal T-Type Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	speedfreak975 2015-12-04 14:40	So there is a normal faction and this ? -- Last edit: 2015-12-04 14:41:08
Checker A8 Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Hakari 2015-12-04 01:36	JFK wrote Fine. I am man and I admit that I couldnt win this. It is still dumb for ´47 (although fictional) show, but we can all agree that this is 1956 Checker A8. Nothing is dumb there. Checker A8 looks pretty close. Nice find.
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-12-04 00:37	Okay it would have been better if you had just said my name. Im sick and tired of this GTA shit and I dont care anymore. Rockstar can kiss my ass. Im done. Have fun getting in more disputes about these damn GTA cars!
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tuppence870 2015-12-04 00:25	Tycek wrote I wasn't the one changing the Stratum back and forth, I changed it twice iirc (once to Subaru and once to MFG), so stop for Christ's sake trying to turn me into some crazy bad guy here running amok and changing cars to whatever he seems to like. But you did still change it back to both Subaru and MFG at a time when the generally accepted consensus was for Skyline, just because you personally didn't see it. Need I remind you that you referred to my carefully constructed evidence as "I'm right just because, and you're wrong", and that this is not the only time that you've blatantly ignored the evidence in favour of your own opinions. As for anybody complaining in caps lock and exclamation marks, please just stop. Apparently we can't have a sensible discussion around here without somebody calling it a war. We're here to identify cars, so a heated debate about the identity of cars is hardly a problem. And although I've run out of time tonight, I should be able to finally complete the Stratum stratagem tomorrow or at the weekend. I had wanted things to calm down a little before I posted it, but clearly the longer I leave this, the worse it's going to get. -- Last edit: 2015-12-04 00:30:57
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-12-03 23:06	ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW. I come back on IGCD and the only thing I see is another fucking argument on GTA V. That's 3 cars we've had a war over. Ingot, Stratum, And now the Carbonizzare! For the love of god, Can we just forget GTA V ever existed???
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	speedfreak975 2015-12-03 22:08	Tycek wrote The last applies to everybody on this world, don't forget about that, because many people here and everywhere else are using the same way to create double standards. And what the here are you about? I wasn't the one changing the Stratum back and forth, I changed it twice iirc (once to Subaru and once to MFG), so stop for Christ's sake trying to turn me into some crazy bad guy here running amok and changing cars to whatever he seems to like. I'm not making you into anything, I'm talking to you arnt you an admin ? You have the power to change it and honestly half of the people on the stratum page agreed it's a r32 so why not put it that. I find it ridiculous that this car was never stated as MFG and the stratum was considered as one. I never attacked you. I addressed you because your name is orange. The exist thing can't be used considering this and the stratum arnt real life cars -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 22:09:46
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tycek 2015-12-03 22:02	The last applies to everybody on this world, don't forget about that, because many people here and everywhere else are using the same way to create double standards. And what the here are you about? I wasn't the one changing the Stratum back and forth, I changed it twice iirc (once to Subaru and once to MFG), so stop for Christ's sake trying to turn me into some crazy bad guy here running amok and changing cars to whatever he seems to like.
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	speedfreak975 2015-12-03 21:35	The stratum has been edited to be a 1989 skyline GTS-4 if that edit isn't accepted tycek than you prove that double standards exists, because concept wise this and the startum are the same case except the stratum is a clearer case that no one wants to understand. Edit: just because you don't fully agree with the majority that doesn't make you right , -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 21:44:37
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tycek 2015-12-03 21:07	Tuppence870 wrote On a side note, I'd like to point out the double standards of our old friend Tycek, who is perfectly happy with this convertible Zagato, but still can't come to terms with a wagon Skyline (hint, hint). Double standards my ass, but I see you're trying to be cool by making it personal. I believe that we all agree coming here that cars should be identified by their looks (which I even stated before on this very page). For me Stratum is oversized and modified Subaru Impreza Wagon and I will stand by it. Sure it has Skyline front (I am not denying that), but the rest of the car is not Skyline imo. Same goes here as I don't care if coupe was turned into convertible or sedan into wagon. This car here is not California, because it should be one. It's an Aston Martin because it looks like one. Fact that it was turned into convertible to look like California doesn't matter if 80% of the car looks nothing like it. -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 21:07:42
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	JFK 2015-12-03 20:38	Tycek wrote So despite the fact that this car looks almost like a V12 Zagato with changed front and we should base our judgement how the car looks, not what it was suppose to be, someone changed it to California? Nicely done. Did I edited it back to Aston right? I dont know if it was 2011 or 2012. To Ferrari/Aston debate, I am on side of Aston. It is like to say that Lampadati Pigalle should be judged by its not much significant rear. It is Citroen SM, because the front end is 100% accurate and rest of the body kinda fits. If you look on the back, it is 100% Aston, and front is maybe Ferrari influenced, but that is minimum in overall look of Aston. I would tell that this is a California few months ago, but after I saw Aston, it is Aston and that is end of the story.
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	speedfreak975 2015-12-03 20:15	Yes, the cars aren't lincensed meaning developers can modify them as they please but some people can't accept it , anyways the only way this becomes an Aston Martin Zagato is if the stratum becomes a R32 skyline -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 20:15:35
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tuppence870 2015-12-03 19:47	And here goes the biggest debate on IGCD - can game developers create new body styles for real cars? The simple answer is yes, because these are not real vehicles, they are lines of code tied to a 3D model and some textures. Since these cars are not licensed, the developer is free to do whatever they want with the car, hence why we get cars like the Surano - a Mercedes SLS with Jaguar F-Type details. Here, we are looking at an Aston Martin V12 Zagato (check all of the rear details: body shape, lights, side vents, side windows, bumper, etc.) with some Ferrari-ish details slapped on and a unique convertible roof added, before it gets pushed under the Grotti name, the equivalent of Ferrari. Like the Coil Voltic, which is a Lotus Elise implied to be a Tesla Roadster, the Grotti Carbonizzare is an Aston Martin pretending to be a Ferrari California, so should be listed as the Aston. On a side note, I'd like to point out the double standards of our old friend Tycek, who is perfectly happy with this convertible Zagato, but still can't come to terms with a wagon Skyline (hint, hint). -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 20:07:04
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	speedfreak975 2015-12-03 19:02	This car will remain a Ferrari because let's not lie to each other if people can't rap their heads over a R32 skyline wagon , I can't rap my head around a convertible Zagato because they both don't EXIST (production wise). Either this and the stratum are changed or this remains a Ferrari because it's a hardtop RWD front engined grotti (Ferrari parody) aka a California
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tycek 2015-12-03 18:34	So despite the fact that this car looks almost like a V12 Zagato with changed front and we should base our judgement how the car looks, not what it was suppose to be, someone changed it to California? Nicely done.
Mercedes-Benz E-Klasse Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	JFK 2015-12-03 10:16	Burn Rubber wrote Yeah it's like the games know hen you need something and take it away. And when you find it, it is impossible to not see eleventy billion of these driving around
Nissan Stagea Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	alatriste2003 2015-12-03 09:56	So Vulcar is based on Volvo, but the cars that made are on Nissan... It makes sense. Good Work R*. Anyways it's a same that the VD90R isn't available in Los Santos Cutoms
Mercedes-Benz E-Klasse Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-12-03 06:50	Yeah it's like the games know hen you need something and take it away.
Checker A8 Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	JFK 2015-11-30 21:56	Fine. I am man and I admit that I couldnt win this. It is still dumb for ´47 (although fictional) show, but we can all agree that this is 1956 Checker A8.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-11-29 23:49	If this goes back to Accord without dead proof Im leaving IGCD until you all come to your senses.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Black Bart 2015-11-29 23:31	How 'bout we file it back as a Honda Accord Wagon, like it was for over two years and leave it alone.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-11-29 19:06	Fine. Im done.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tuppence870 2015-11-29 18:53	I don't want to sound rude, but with every complaint you're making here, you're just putting more fuel on the fire. You've somehow created an argument about having arguments. Unless you've actually got something to say about the car, calm down and avoid the caps lock key. -- Last edit: 2015-11-29 19:38:16
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-11-29 18:37	Oh my god. Fuck this car! It can burn in hell for all I care! I never want to see a Stratum again! I've became IGCD's scapegoat, All of the sudden it's my fault for trying to end this stupid argument, (which an admin listens to me about. Thanks. ) and now im getting hell for trying to end all this! Can some admin just please delete this car and re-upload it and disable comments on it??? Cause im so freaking annoyed with this page now.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	GeoZR177 2015-11-29 18:30	All i can say about this arguement is just wow.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tuppence870 2015-11-29 18:26	Your caps lock to exclamation mark ratio is off the charts, and you posted 5 times on this page last night, practically overreacting to every comment that got posted. -- Last edit: 2015-11-29 18:26:51
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-11-29 18:16	OKAY WOW! How am I calling it a shitshow!?!?!? Nismo is the one saying it over and over! God dammit why is it that im always in/I accurately in some trouble on here?!?!?
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tuppence870 2015-11-29 18:05	I guess that explains it, but the new car is quite different to that car. I shouldn't have to say this, but we should identify cars based on what they are currently, not what they were in previous iterations. And honestly, this is much less of a s*tshow than Burn Rubber is making it out to be.. -- Last edit:* 2015-11-29 18:09:22
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	NismoR35 2015-11-29 17:27	It's because of this car. which was why it was relatively fine in being a Honda until IV came around. Even we never had this bad of a shit show on the IV page as well. -- Last edit: 2015-11-29 17:31:29
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tuppence870 2015-11-29 16:31	Black Bart wrote Wasn't this fine enough being a Honda? Because it has no relation to the Honda. Not really sure how it got that identification in the first place. As previously established, it is entirely a Nissan Skyline R32 Sedan aside from the obvious wagon section. For some, that is enough to say that it could never be a Skyline, and were pushing the similar but arguably less accurate Subaru Impreza Wagon. Because no agreement was made, it has remained as Made for Game. I had planned to create and post a detailed analysis to prove this once and for all, but I've been very pressed for time due to work. Maybe once that work is over (December 5th), I'll finally be able to sort this thing out. -- Last edit: 2015-11-29 16:48:47
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Black Bart 2015-11-29 15:44	Wasn't this fine enough being a Honda? BTW, I don't Rockstargames isn't aware of this site. Besides, no vehicle in the GTA franchise has ever resembled a real-life vehicle, down to the make, model and year 100%. -- Last edit: 2015-11-29 15:54:50
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Tycek 2015-11-29 10:34	Now you can see the moderator's problems you were hearing about.
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013)	Burn Rubber 2015-11-29 01:43	No just put it back to Made for Game and edit-lock it again and NEVER remove it.

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