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 Citroën SM Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | In addition to the obvious Citroën SM design cues, it also shares a lot of similarities with the 1967 Zagato-styled Rover 2000 TCZ www.carstyling.ru/en/car/1967_rover_2000_tcz/ | |
 Spectre Performance Camaro Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | It's a Camaro with Firebird taillights | |
 Lenco B.E.A.R. Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | It's Lenco BEAR not a Bearcat. Bearcat is smaller than this vehicle. www.lencoarmor.com/law-enforcement/bear-variants/ EDIT: Also the category appears to be wrong. It's not a van or MPV but more likely an military armored vehicle. Other BEAR/Bearcats are listed under various categories like SUV or even as a simple truck. What a mess... -- Last edit: 2015-12-13 20:19:40 | |
 BMW M3 Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Old Sentinel | |
Spectre Performance Camaro Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Considering this is an Imponte Model, Its a Pontiac Firebird, Not a Camaro | |
 Wiesmann GT MF5 Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Hope this doesn't cost too much. I don't wanna talk about the name though -- Last edit: 2015-12-12 10:51:27 | |
 Mercedes-Benz E-Klasse Stretched Limousine Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | This car is officially confirmed to be in Executives and other criminals update on 15th december 2015. I guess I must be in a passive mode for a while, because with this all GTA: O servers will be like in full riot mode  | |
 Shelby Cobra Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | This car is officially confirmed to be in Executives and other criminals update on 15th december 2015. | |
Spectre Performance Camaro Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | This car is officially confirmed to be in Executives and other criminals update on 15th december 2015. | |
Wiesmann GT MF5 Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | This car is officially confirmed, see trailer that was posted on Newswire few minutes ago. | |
 Nissan GT-R Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | PikesPeak wrote The rims design is similar to SpecV model...  So.... someone add a trim ? or no? The rims and the exhausts | |
 Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | I guess that does clear things up. I was disappointed that you appeared to disregard the value of my work. I had tried very hard to keep it as fair as possible, as with all vehicles in these games, this is a mixture. Personally, I don't believe the taillights, black plastic and wagon area (all of which have to be modified to match up to the Stratum) are more notable than the wealth of details that match perfectly with the Skyline. I'm still a little confused about the beige line you're talking about, since the beige line is on the hood. Perhaps you mean the pale green line that runs the length of the car? That does appear on the Stratum in the same spot as the Skyline (which I had previously explained as the feature that sold me on the Skyline), but it's not visible under certain lighting conditions. You can see it more clearly here:  Also, here's something I'd wanted to do before but didn't have a good base image for - an overlay of what could be attributed to Subaru or Skyline within the Stratum. Obviously, this doesn't account for elements not visible in side view. Skyline is represented in red, Subaru in blue, places where both could apply are purple and places that don't match either are black:  -- Last edit: 2015-12-06 22:52:40 | |
 Cadillac Seville SLS Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | i.imgur.com/pryojHm.gifv I know, it is not the best, but it could be worse. Also, for some strange reason nothing is shown when I put [img][/img]. -- Last edit: 2015-12-07 16:29:09 | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tuppence870 wrote Tycek, I'm not going to dignify that with a full response. I'm fully aware of the points you're making, because I've made them myself. If you want your answers, go back and look for them and stop wasting my time. Tuppence, I wasn't even talking about that debate. I agreed with you back in October "I've seen your evidence and I can agree about some of them, but at the same time I think you are trying to hard to push your opinion. This car is clearly a mix between Impreza, Accord and Skyline, so we should really make a consensus instead of trying to push one car over the other here, because there always will be someone who will not agree with the final result of the debate." and I'm not trying to stir up any shit here. I was posting clues about it being a Subaru, to make it clear this car is not 100% Skyline. If you want it to be listed as Skyline, so be it. I didn't changed it, locked it or do other things that would be considered as against your points, did I? And I was saying about some general rule "And some rules regarding this new double standard has to be set, because right now it seems that car will be identify as person who screams the loudest wants." to prevent us from any more situations. How about posting a guess and showing some proof confirming it? I was talking generally here, we got this page to have logical debates, as they were done in the past where people were actually trying to identify the car instead of creating drama rama all over the page. Debate about Skyline may be considered as finished to the point when someone brings some real proof of this being different car. How about that? And rule about different standard has to be set, because currently we're identifying the cars however people like. Proposition about setting the rules was written here as we don't have the forums we could use for some debate and since it's pretty crowded place why not talk about it here and now. @JFK I would like to see the morphing if you have the time and will to do it. -- Last edit: 2015-12-06 21:05:58 | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tycek wrote because right now it seems that car will be identify as person who screams the loudest wants. Tycek, I'm not going to dignify that with a full response. I'm fully aware of the points you're making, because I've made them myself. If you want your answers, go back and look for them and stop wasting my time. | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tycek wrote Stop being a goddamnit drama queen. Nobody is fighting a war here, people are not dying. But if any debate has to be turned into a war, maybe it's better to slap any name on the car and call it a day, because it was identified after all. And some rules regarding this new double standard has to be set, because right now it seems that car will be identify as person who screams the loudest wants. I am on your side Tycek. I can do a morph of Allante and a Primo if you want to. I saw in Stratum a Skylene, so I am completly okay with Primo/Allante. After all Tahoma from GTA: SA is listed as Monte Carlo with two extra doors | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Stop being a goddamnit drama queen. Nobody is fighting a war here, people are not dying. But if any debate has to be turned into a war, maybe it's better to slap any name on the car and call it a day, because it was identified after all. And some rules regarding this new double standard has to be set, because right now it seems that car will be identify as person who screams the loudest wants. | |
 Chevrolet Impala Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | I like Mcthieve car pic better, so I will change the main one. I cant do anything about the secondary, unless I post there mine Voodoo. | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Oh god, please don't start the Primo Wars. We just finished with this and then we have to deal with that... Unbelieveable. | |
Chevrolet Impala Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | alatriste2003 wrote And a offtopic, my personal Custom Voodoo Lowrider  : prod.hosted.cloud.rockstargames.com/ugc/gta5photo/urApZLu6RkWFwt_lWhujXg_0_0.jpg Well now that you mention i would like to say that i like to keep it let's say "traditional" postimg.org/image/heit5jnc9/ (now on michael's mansion instead of the rusty one) | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tuppence870 wrote I had mentioned the black plastic on the rear shot, and it is one of few details that does seem similar with the Subaru, however there is a lot more in common with the Skyline. Not only that but the plastic on the Stratum runs around the whole car, but on the Subaru there are large gaps between the front/rear and the wheel arches, so I wouldn't say it's a close match and certainly not enough to disregard everything else. As for the window thing, I think you're talking about the curve between the C-pillar and the bottom of the rear window? I had marked that on the frontal shot but forgot to add it at the rear. From the front it appears to match with both vehicles, but from the rear it was hard to deduce the effect on the Skyline since it has no window to use as a frame of reference. Black stripes running around the car, with gaps or without them are still better than no gaps at all and Skyline has none. Also if you look on pic I posted the link for, you realize that some Subarus got that black stripe on the front bumper with turn signals incorporated into, which was never present on any Skyline. And I was talking about the tan/beige line you had on your pictures. Both Stratum and Impreza got glasshouse much narrower that the rest of the body which creates visible line on the side of the body. Skyline doesn't have anything like that. Funny how you completely disregard taillights look, which are almost the same as on Subaru, just with additional segment added. I am not saying it's not Skyline. I am saying it's a hodgepodge between two cars. And what is percentage of importance of both of them? Also if this is Skyline, then this igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=59384 is Allante. Talking about double standards. | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | This, the Elegy, and the Warrener are all Skylines (even though the Elegy technically isn't a Skyline). I'm happy the Stratum Wars are over (hopefully) .gif ":)") | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | So at least it's a Skyline R32. I'm happy now xD. Interesting, in GTA V there are three differents Nissan Skylines. I hope there is peace now .gif ";)") | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tycek wrote Not to be picky, but you took wrong Subaru to comparison. It's actually this one: www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CIMG0449.jpg with the black stipes on doors and front bumper, which are obviously present on Stratum as well (just slightly longered). Line of the back narrowing right below the window also seems, to fit as well as some minor details. I had mentioned the black plastic on the rear shot, and it is one of few details that does seem similar with the Subaru, however there is a lot more in common with the Skyline. Not only that but the plastic on the Stratum runs around the whole car, but on the Subaru there are large gaps between the front/rear and the wheel arches, so I wouldn't say it's a close match and certainly not enough to disregard everything else. As for the window thing, I think you're talking about the curve between the C-pillar and the bottom of the rear window? I had marked that on the frontal shot but forgot to add it at the rear. From the front it appears to match with both vehicles, but from the rear it was hard to deduce the effect on the Skyline since it has no window to use as a frame of reference. | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Jesus, first the Ingot, now the Sultan causes a massive, further-more-aggressive discussion? Station wagons must have a curse on them.  | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Not to be picky, but you took wrong Subaru to comparison. It's actually this one: www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CIMG0449.jpg with the black stipes on doors and front bumper, which are obviously present on Stratum as well (just slightly longered). Line of the back narrowing right below the window also seems, to fit as well as some minor details. Also what happened here? Burn Rubber wrote There. Is. No. Licensed. SKYLINE WAGON!!! So stop trying to change it to one! For the love of god, Im sick of this already. Im fine with either Accord or Subaru. Because, THEY EXIST!!! No official R32 Wagons were made. Ergo, It is NOT allowed on IGCD. And don't start with the Sileighty shit again because 500 official ones were made. It is not a R32 Wagon. Period. -- Last edit: 2015-12-06 09:22:51 | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Good. Let's hope this is the end of the Stratum Wars... | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | JFK wrote http://i.imgur.com/8H8iPNw.gif?1 I think morph gif is quite clear, I hope I saved some Tuppences time. Thanks for that . Although the morph doesn't seem to be working perfectly at the rear, that's saved me a lot of time and probably done a better job than what I've finally cobbled together.I had wanted to go a bit further with this one, but I figured I'd just get something quick done before I put it off again. Although I am supporting the Nissan (with good reason), I've tried to give the Subaru a fair chance.   As you can see, there is a lot at the front of this vehicle that points towards Skyline, not just the headlights. Most notably is the feature line down the side, which runs an identical course both in-game and in reality, and is paired with a similarly identical shoulder over the rear wheel. The shape of the cabin area between the A and C pillars is very similar (although the Nissan is obviously missing a D-pillar), with geometric edges surrounding the sides and a roof that begins flat at the top of the windscreen. The hood bends downward in a single, flowing arc, and it has a bulge in the centre that runs the length of the hood, but doesn't reach the headlights/grille.   The Subaru, while similar, has almost no influence on the front. The Subaru does have a feature line on the side, but it begins much earlier at the headlight, rather than the front wheel. Similarly, the Subaru lacks an additional shoulder line over the rear wheel. The Subaru's cabin is similar, but much more rounded in its approach. Notably, the roof still rises higher above the windscreen, as it is slightly domed. The side windows follow suit, but also have curved and right-angled bottoms to their lines, while the Stratum has sharp, triangular angles. There is also a new line present that runs parallel to the curved base of the windscreen, terminating almost a third of the way into the hood. This is not a feature of the Stratum. The hood is also flatter, but with a more noticeable curve downwards at the front end, while the hood bulge is wider and runs to the bottom of the grille. As for the D-pillar (the wagon part), while it is present on the Subaru (unlike the Nissan), it follows a different shape to the Stratum. The Stratum's trunk is much longer and curves gracefully to the back, while the Subaru's is short and stubby, creating a higher angle with the rear. Neither vehicle has the front bumper of the Stratum, although the shape is possibly similar to the Nissan and the indicator position is possibly similar to the Subaru.   As we move rearward, some differences appear with the Skyline, but it is still faithful. The relative positions and distances between elements like the bottom of the window, both top edges of the bumper, taillight positions and the position of the indented line are very similar between the Stratum and Skyline. Text and badging also appear in similar positions (although Stratum/Skyline appear on opposite sides of the indented line). The "STRATUM" font is also similar to the "SKYLINE" font. The taillights do show some differences. The pattern is not the same, despite a similar outline. Also, the Stratum's lights curve around the side more than the Skyline's. The shape of this rear area is also different, as the Skyline's is a smooth curve, while the Stratum has a straight-up followed by a sharper curve. While it is proportionally correct, the bumpers are quite different, as the Skyline's cuts away earlier and doesn't feature a plastic strip. Details like license plate positions and exhausts are identical across all 3 cars.   The Subaru does appear to be similar in some areas. These include the bumper, which is now taller and has plastic strips. But this is also deeper, along with other elements like taillights and the indented line, which are no longer positioned with the Stratum as successfully as the Skyline was. While the word "SUBARU" is positioned correctly, it is not as wide as on the Stratum and all other text is incorrectly placed. The taillight pattern, although visually similar, is not identical. The shape does wrap around the sides, but is shorter on the back face and is sometimes right-angled rather than curved. The wagon issues brought up earlier are now more obvious, as the Subaru's rear windscreen rises almost vertically while the Stratum's curves away dramatically to a horizontal plane. However, the shape of the area below is similar, with a curved shape followed by a flatter one.  And now we move to one final detail. Some variants of the Stratum (those with a spoiler), claim that a 2.6l Twin Turbo sits under the hood. Only one production car has ever left a factory with that engine. That engine is the Nissan RB26DETT, which was used in the Nissan Skyline GT-R from 1989-2002. As I said previously, this car is a mix of Japanese sports sedans, including the Subaru, but predominantly the Nissan Skyline R32 Sedan is king. If my work here doesn't convince you, I'm afraid nothing will. But let's hope for the best.  | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | So what's going on here I'm too lazy to read is this going to be skyline or accord because made for game is quite ridiculous honestly | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) |  I think morph gif is quite clear, I hope I saved some Tuppences time. -- Last edit: 2015-12-06 00:00:44 | |
 Tesla Roadster Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | You know about the event that requires driving the longest distance without crashing? If my estimations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph in reverse, youre going to win that challenge. (Yeah, poor pun was said) Now seriously, this car is indeed very quick on reverse, nearly same speed as forward. I have worst textures, I couldnt really tell what speed was that, but my estimate is something over 70 mph. | |
 Buick Regal T-Type Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | speedfreak975 wrote So there is a normal faction and this ? Yes. | |
Buick Regal T-Type Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | So there is a normal faction and this ? -- Last edit: 2015-12-04 14:41:08 | |
 Checker A8 Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | JFK wrote Fine. I am man and I admit that I couldnt win this. It is still dumb for ´47 (although fictional) show, but we can all agree that this is 1956 Checker A8. Nothing is dumb there. Checker A8 looks pretty close. Nice find. | |
 Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tycek wrote I wasn't the one changing the Stratum back and forth, I changed it twice iirc (once to Subaru and once to MFG), so stop for Christ's sake trying to turn me into some crazy bad guy here running amok and changing cars to whatever he seems to like. But you did still change it back to both Subaru and MFG at a time when the generally accepted consensus was for Skyline, just because you personally didn't see it. Need I remind you that you referred to my carefully constructed evidence as "I'm right just because, and you're wrong", and that this is not the only time that you've blatantly ignored the evidence in favour of your own opinions. As for anybody complaining in caps lock and exclamation marks, please just stop. Apparently we can't have a sensible discussion around here without somebody calling it a war. We're here to identify cars, so a heated debate about the identity of cars is hardly a problem. And although I've run out of time tonight, I should be able to finally complete the Stratum stratagem tomorrow or at the weekend. I had wanted things to calm down a little before I posted it, but clearly the longer I leave this, the worse it's going to get. -- Last edit: 2015-12-04 00:30:57 | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tycek wrote The last applies to everybody on this world, don't forget about that, because many people here and everywhere else are using the same way to create double standards. And what the here are you about? I wasn't the one changing the Stratum back and forth, I changed it twice iirc (once to Subaru and once to MFG), so stop for Christ's sake trying to turn me into some crazy bad guy here running amok and changing cars to whatever he seems to like. I'm not making you into anything, I'm talking to you arnt you an admin ? You have the power to change it and honestly half of the people on the stratum page agreed it's a r32 so why not put it that. I find it ridiculous that this car was never stated as MFG and the stratum was considered as one. I never attacked you. I addressed you because your name is orange. The exist thing can't be used considering this and the stratum arnt real life cars -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 22:09:46 | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | The last applies to everybody on this world, don't forget about that, because many people here and everywhere else are using the same way to create double standards. And what the here are you about? I wasn't the one changing the Stratum back and forth, I changed it twice iirc (once to Subaru and once to MFG), so stop for Christ's sake trying to turn me into some crazy bad guy here running amok and changing cars to whatever he seems to like. | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | The stratum has been edited to be a 1989 skyline GTS-4 if that edit isn't accepted tycek than you prove that double standards exists, because concept wise this and the startum are the same case except the stratum is a clearer case that no one wants to understand. Edit: just because you don't fully agree with the majority that doesn't make you right , -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 21:44:37 | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tuppence870 wrote On a side note, I'd like to point out the double standards of our old friend Tycek, who is perfectly happy with this convertible Zagato, but still can't come to terms with a wagon Skyline (*hint, hint*). Double standards my ass, but I see you're trying to be cool by making it personal. I believe that we all agree coming here that cars should be identified by their looks (which I even stated before on this very page). For me Stratum is oversized and modified Subaru Impreza Wagon and I will stand by it. Sure it has Skyline front (I am not denying that), but the rest of the car is not Skyline imo. Same goes here as I don't care if coupe was turned into convertible or sedan into wagon. This car here is not California, because it should be one. It's an Aston Martin because it looks like one. Fact that it was turned into convertible to look like California doesn't matter if 80% of the car looks nothing like it. -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 21:07:42 | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Tycek wrote So despite the fact that this car looks almost like a V12 Zagato with changed front and we should base our judgement how the car looks, not what it was suppose to be, someone changed it to California? Nicely done. Did I edited it back to Aston right? I dont know if it was 2011 or 2012. To Ferrari/Aston debate, I am on side of Aston. It is like to say that Lampadati Pigalle should be judged by its not much significant rear. It is Citroen SM, because the front end is 100% accurate and rest of the body kinda fits. If you look on the back, it is 100% Aston, and front is maybe Ferrari influenced, but that is minimum in overall look of Aston. I would tell that this is a California few months ago, but after I saw Aston, it is Aston and that is end of the story. | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Yes, the cars aren't lincensed meaning developers can modify them as they please but some people can't accept it , anyways the only way this becomes an Aston Martin Zagato is if the stratum becomes a R32 skyline -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 20:15:35 | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | And here goes the biggest debate on IGCD - can game developers create new body styles for real cars? The simple answer is yes, because these are not real vehicles, they are lines of code tied to a 3D model and some textures. Since these cars are not licensed, the developer is free to do whatever they want with the car, hence why we get cars like the Surano - a Mercedes SLS with Jaguar F-Type details. Here, we are looking at an Aston Martin V12 Zagato (check all of the rear details: body shape, lights, side vents, side windows, bumper, etc.) with some Ferrari-ish details slapped on and a unique convertible roof added, before it gets pushed under the Grotti name, the equivalent of Ferrari. Like the Coil Voltic, which is a Lotus Elise implied to be a Tesla Roadster, the Grotti Carbonizzare is an Aston Martin pretending to be a Ferrari California, so should be listed as the Aston. On a side note, I'd like to point out the double standards of our old friend Tycek, who is perfectly happy with this convertible Zagato, but still can't come to terms with a wagon Skyline (*hint, hint*). -- Last edit: 2015-12-03 20:07:04 | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | This car will remain a Ferrari because let's not lie to each other if people can't rap their heads over a R32 skyline wagon , I can't rap my head around a convertible Zagato because they both don't EXIST (production wise). Either this and the stratum are changed or this remains a Ferrari because it's a hardtop RWD front engined grotti (Ferrari parody) aka a California | |
Ferrari California Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | So despite the fact that this car looks almost like a V12 Zagato with changed front and we should base our judgement how the car looks, not what it was suppose to be, someone changed it to California? Nicely done. | |
 Mercedes-Benz E-Klasse Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Burn Rubber wrote Yeah it's like the games know hen you need something and take it away. And when you find it, it is impossible to not see eleventy billion of these driving around | |
 Nissan Stagea Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | So Vulcar is based on Volvo, but the cars that made are on Nissan... It makes sense. Good Work R*. Anyways it's a same that the VD90R isn't available in Los Santos Cutoms | |
Checker A8 Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | Fine. I am man and I admit that I couldnt win this. It is still dumb for ´47 (although fictional) show, but we can all agree that this is 1956 Checker A8. | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | How 'bout we file it back as a Honda Accord Wagon, like it was for over two years and leave it alone. | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | I don't want to sound rude, but with every complaint you're making here, you're just putting more fuel on the fire. You've somehow created an argument about having arguments. Unless you've actually got something to say about the car, calm down and avoid the caps lock key. -- Last edit: 2015-11-29 19:38:16 | |
Nissan Skyline Grand Theft Auto V (2013) | All i can say about this arguement is just wow. |
