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 Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |  Twilight Sparkplug photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-13 19:44 | I like it when things work like this, Lots of people making images, and actually explaining themselves. its nice. I could never identify the landstalker myself, I had no idea it was listed as such on this site. I personally would like to say it does not look like a Freelander in any way? I had the misfortune of buying one of those once  so maybe I have a bias on the fact I cant stand to see it :PThe comparisons with the jeep do work in some ways but its also.. Not quite there too, I personally always imagined it being something Japanese, But never could find something to fit the shape. The rear end bugs me, Looks like a cross between and old Discovery and a Montero or something.. But still... Jeep is closer than Freelander Edit: Also I would just like to say, Using wiki to find out about game cars is a really bad idea, Check out the GTA2 wiki page if you want some eye rolling fun. -- Last edit: 2017-04-13 19:46:33 |
 Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   Mieguy
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2017-04-13 18:40 | Just out of curiosity: Why did you change your "language" mode? Dis is rilly streinch languedge u no? |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   Mathias98
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2017-04-13 18:39 | When I posted that picture back 2016 December, I didn't thought that it's going to be another long argument. I thought that some people are going to agree with me, and then it gets changed to a Jeep. But I was wrong... A lot of people suggested other vehicles, some of which look completely different or would be impossible to find in the USA. Other people just simply said that it's not a JGC. So let's pretend that the last 30 comments on the page does not exist. I'm trying to prove for the last time, that it's a second generation Jeep Grand Cherokee:  As you can see, the Grand Cherokee has quite distinctive wheels arches, and the Landstalker has almost the same ones. And none of the vehicles mentioned on the page has similar wheel arches (maybe except the Trooper). And the front bumper is clearly from the JGC. The shape of the grille is the same, but the grille itself different - most likely it was changed because the Jeep grille is a trademark, and Rockstar wanted to avoid a lawsuit. All of the Jeeps in the GTA series has different grille - just look at the Mesa Grande, the Seminole and the Crusader. And about the spare tire - none of the cars in GTA series are 100% accurate. For example, the Tahoma in GTA San Andreas is obviously based on a Chevy Monte Carlo, despite the fact that the Monte Carlo wasn't available in 4 door form. And as K20lover199 said, the rear might be actually from the Freelander. And why it can't be a Grand Cherokee/Freelander mix? And now, please look at the script: gtamodding.ru/wiki/Kenji#kenji2 If you scroll down, you find these lines: // creates car5 the 4X4 CREATE_CAR CAR_LANDSTALKER 200.7 -1006.2 25.1 car_to_steal5_km2 This is actually from the beta version of mission 'Grand Theft Auto'. In the beta it was called 'Gone In 30 Seconds' and the player also had to steal a Banshee and a Landstalker, while in the final version the player has to steal only an Infernus, a Cheetah and a Stinger. As you can see the script calls the Landstalker 4X4 -please take a look at this: www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=1052 -it's a Jeep Wrangler. And it was a Jeep Wagoneer/Chevy S-10 Blazer mix in VC, SA and VCS. And finally, the Jeep Grand Cherokee was far more popular in the USA than any of the SUVs mentioned on the page. For example, in 1999 ca. 300000 JGCs were sold. While, in 1997 ca. 60000, in 1998 ca. 100000, and 1999 ca. 120000 Honda CR-Vs were sold. More JGC were sold in one year, than CR-Vs in three years! So, even if the Landstalker isn't 100% Jeep Grand Cherokee (only about 70%), it's still a much better match than the Ford Escape or anything else. -- Last edit: 2017-04-13 18:44:32 |
 Toyota Tacoma Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |  soundlessleaf
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2017-04-12 15:48 | That front end kinda reminds me of an Isuzu Hombre |
 Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   sajmon14
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2017-04-11 22:20 | I have a theory about R* messing up some names in the newer games on purpose, I already wrote it on some GTA page and it said that they do it, because they know that IGCD exists and they want to confuse us  |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98
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2017-04-11 22:15 | K20lover199 wrote Well the reason why they changed it is because of a potential lawsuit. But they left in the game the Honda wheels and some real life businesses, such as Joe's Pizza  But back on topic, I changed my mind, the overall shape is quite similar to the Vector. And sometimes even Rockstar isn't sure about the real life counterparts of the cars, for example the Ingot is called Swedish, but mostly it's based on a Stagea. And in some cases, the manufacturer names are messed up: Karin Kuruma instead of Maibatsu or Karin Sultan instead of Emperor. |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   Speedevil
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2017-04-11 00:07 | Yep, I think it's totally accidental. |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |  K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-11 00:03 | Mathias98 wrote This it the last time I post on the Infernus page, but... -the script calls it Diablo -the name is a reference to the Diablo -at least 50% of the car is based in the Diablo (rear, sides and window shape) -the Diablo is a well-known sports car, while the Vector isn't so famous -only 14 production model Vector M12s were built, so it's highly unlikely to be found on a city street -with the exception of GTA San Andreas, it was based on Lambo in every GTA game So, the developers certainly wanted the Infernus to be based on a Lamborghini Diablo. Well the reason why they changed it is because of a potential lawsuit. So they changed the name and design. By Coincidence, it looks round like a Vector M12, with very little Diablo resemblance (like the doors). |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98
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2017-04-10 23:22 | This it the last time I post on the Infernus page, but... -the script calls it Diablo -the name is a reference to the Diablo -at least 50% of the car is based in the Diablo (rear, sides and window shape) -the Diablo is a well-known sports car, while the Vector isn't so famous -only 14 production model Vector M12s were built, so it's highly unlikely to be found on a city street -with the exception of GTA San Andreas, it was based on Lambo in every GTA game So, the developers certainly wanted the Infernus to be based on a Lamborghini Diablo. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-10 22:10 | Mathias98 wrote I disagree: The CR-V has a smaller grille, and none of the vehicles mentioned above on the page has the same front bumper and wheel arches as the Grand Cherokee/Landstalker. But I agree with the second part of your sentence, the rear might be from the Freelander. Whatever, I still think it's a CR-V with Freelander headlight and rear. Whatever this car becomes identified to next is going to be incorrect anyways, because the Ford Escape and second gen GC don't have spare tires on the back. Besides, this ain't worth my time anyways, the car is too tippy and hard to drive, it didn't become decent until GTA 4. Also, who am I to judge? Half the unlicensed cars on this site are identified wrong anyways. I'm done with this discussion. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98
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2017-04-10 21:54 | K20lover199 wrote I wasn't saying that the WHOLE car is a Freelander. The front and sides are a CR-V and the back and headlights are from a Freelander. I disagree:  The CR-V has a smaller grille, and none of the vehicles mentioned above on the page has the same front bumper and wheel arches as the Grand Cherokee/Landstalker. But I agree with the second part of your sentence, the rear might be from the Freelander. -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 22:01:12 |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-10 18:43 | Mathias98 wrote And actually, the Freelander isn't so similar to the Landstalker I wasn't saying that the WHOLE car is a Freelander. The front and sides are a CR-V and the back and headlights are from a Freelander. -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 18:47:59 |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | sajmon14
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2017-04-10 18:02 | I dunno what vehicle it really is and I'm not saying that it's a Land Rover but they can put anything they want to the game .gif ";)") |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98
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2017-04-10 17:56 | Sajmon14 wrote Aren't the devs from UK? Rockstar North is located in Edinburgh, Scotland, but why would they add a British SUV to a game, which is set in the USA? And actually, the Freelander isn't so similar to the Landstalker:  |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   Aginnon
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2017-04-10 15:48 | ◘○•♀! wrote Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. Congrats, you're so immature. |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   GamerFIB7590
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2017-04-10 15:06 | ◘○•♀! wrote Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. makkaraperunat wrote Yeah, and stop with the terrible pictures. If you have a computer that can't even run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in frigging 2017 don't even bother. Welcome back again, makkaraperunat. I have these and still CAN run. Who's the first world ponyfag one? And congrats again for being banned for second time -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 15:13:41 |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   BrianMak
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2017-04-10 13:57 | ◘○•♀! wrote Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. Congratulations , you are banned for trolling and saying profanity -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 13:59:36 |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   Rinspeed
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2017-04-10 13:48 | ◘○•♀! wrote Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. banned |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |  ◘○•♀!
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2017-04-10 13:31 | GamerFIB7590 wrote Congrats, you just got an insta-ban Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17. -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 13:36:00 |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Sajmon14
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2017-04-10 00:27 | Mathias98 wrote Why would it be based on a Freelander, which wasn't available in the US when the game was released? Aren't the devs from UK? |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98
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2017-04-09 23:28 | Oh, so now it's listed as Made For Game... fantastic. Okay, so I'm trying to prove that it's based on a Jeep: Most cars in the GTA 3 are based on common and well-known vehicles. There's only one SUV in the game, so it's most likely based on something popular. The Jeep Grand Cherokee was one of the most common SUVs in the late 90's US, so the Landstalker is more likely based on it instead of some rare Japanese SUV. Why would it be based on a Freelander, which wasn't available in the US when the game was released? Or the Escape, which was a far less common vehicle?  There are only minimal differences. |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |   Desscythe17
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2017-04-09 22:02 | Mathias98 wrote Around 75% of modern Spanish is derived from Latin - Wikipedia I believe French, Portuguese, Italian and English are also largely based on Latin. Your point? |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Desscythe17
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2017-04-09 21:53 | Mathias98 wrote And the name of the Infernus is obviously a reference to the Diablo: Diablo=devil (Spanish) Inferno=hell (Latin) You're oversimplifying things. Round and rounded are two different things, just like Spanish and Latin are different languages. |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Desscythe17
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2017-04-09 19:53 | You should probably know these comparison pictures are very subjective. It all depends on which lines you decide to draw. The Infernus is very round, like the Vector. The Diablo is very square. |
Vector M12 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98
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2017-04-09 19:16 | Here's the comparison of the Vector and the Diablo: The rear is quite generic but the shape is much closer to the Diablo than the Vector. The Vector has different shaped door. The windows shape is definitely from the Diablo. The Vector has air intakes on the sides, while the Diablo and the Infernus has not. The cockpit is positioned further forward on the Vector. So, as I said earlier, only the front bumper, the headlights and the spoiler is from the Vector, almost everything else is from the Diablo. -- Last edit: 2017-04-09 23:59:15 |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | GamerFIB7590
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2017-04-09 17:23 | ♣♠b•◘ wrote Congrats, you're retarded. Congrats, you just got an insta-ban Now PM me on Gmail - Where did you come from? Mars? Jupiter? YouTube spambot (Since YouTube is the homeland of trolls/spambots)? Also this, EXCUSE my aggressor since i still remember there's another provocation user next to uwotm8 (Also seen this comment with the link of page below) uwotm8 wrote -- Last edit: 2017-04-09 17:28:02 |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Rinspeed
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2017-04-09 15:14 | ♣♠b•◘ wrote Congrats, you're retarded. banned because fake account only for provocation |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | ♣♠b•◘
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2017-04-09 14:05 | Aginnon wrote My bad. Thought the '85 RX-7 had the same wheels. Congrats, you're retarded. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Desscythe17
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2017-04-09 13:55 | Mathias98 wrote And about the Infernus: the sides, the shape of the windows and the rear is definitely from a Diablo. And furthermore, only 14 Vector M12s were built - so it's unlikely that the person who modeled the Infernus, decided to base it on an almost unknown, extremely rare sports car. Vectors were actually quite popular in 90s Arcade Racing Games, so you'd be wrong to say they are unknown. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Aginnon
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2017-04-09 10:21 | If this really is a Honda, it must be a CR-V with HR-V wheels. |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Aginnon
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2017-04-09 10:19 | Mathias98 wrote You're wrong, those wheels are from a Fiat Punto: www.imcdb.org/vehicle_537152-Fiat-Punto-188-2000.html My bad. Thought the '85 RX-7 had the same wheels. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-09 09:48 | Mathias98 wrote "This first-generation model (1993–2002) sold in low numbers even domestically in South Korea" -Wikipedia So it's definitely not a Sportage. Just because it didn't sell well doesn't mean that it is not that car. It's not a GC or an Escape. Those are too big and don't have spare tires. I think it's a Freelander/CR-V, but it could also be similar cars listed below. 1997-2001 Honda CR-V 2002 Land Rover Freelander 1993-2002 Kia Sportage 1999-2004 Suzuki Grand Vitara/Chevrolet Tracker I'm not going to force anybody into thinking that it's one of these cars above. If many people agree it should be a GC then change it as you please. Have fun editing it wrong .gif ":)") -- Last edit: 2017-04-10 18:44:29 |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | GamerFIB7590
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2017-04-09 04:43 | I'm thinking the 2nd gen Isuzu Trooper, but the problem is the B/C-Pillar is slanted  |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-09 03:34 | Mathias98 wrote It can't be a Freelander, because the first model year was 2002 in the USA. The game takes place in October 2001, so it could be a 2002 model year in 2001. Either that or it could be first gen Honda CRV because of the spare tire. Edit: What about a 1995-2002 Kia Sportage? About the Infernus, the beta version was a Lamborghini Diablo and the final version is a Vector M12. -- Last edit: 2017-04-09 03:36:58 |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-09 02:54 | carcrasher88 wrote How about another possibility... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner#Second_generation_.28N120.3B_N130.3B_1989.E2.80.931995.29 ...the second generation Toyota 4Runner. If you look at the side of the Landstalker, the rear window is raised up compared to the door windows, like the 4Runner, and the body line marked in red dips down further than the Escape or GC, just like said 4Runner. Then, there's the rear tailgate, license plate, and spare tire...which all actually match the Japanese market (JDM) version, the Hilux Surf. This? A 4runner? HA! This is too big be a 4runner, and the Hilux Surf wasn't sold in the States nor legal to import to America. If you ask ME, then it's either a first gen Land Rover Freelander or a first gen Honda CR-V. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |  carcrasher88
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2017-04-09 02:08 | How about another possibility... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner#Second_generation_.28N120.3B_N130.3B_1989.E2.80.931995.29 ...the second generation Toyota 4Runner. If you look at the side of the Landstalker, the rear window is raised up compared to the door windows, like the 4Runner, and the body line marked in red dips down further than the Escape or GC, just like said 4Runner. Then, there's the rear tailgate, license plate, and spare tire...which all actually match the Japanese market (JDM) version, the Hilux Surf. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Desscythe17
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2017-04-08 23:44 | Mathias98 wrote And now?  The headlights are the only thing that matches (except for the photoshopped grille). To be honest, I think the Landstalker looks too old to be either the Grand Cherokee or Escape. |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98
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2017-04-08 22:58 | Aginnon wrote Intrepid with '85 Mazda RX-7 wheels. Strange, considering a sedan. You're wrong, those wheels are from a Fiat Punto: www.imcdb.org/vehicle_537152-Fiat-Punto-188-2000.html |
 BMW 5 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Mathias98
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2017-04-08 22:58 | Aginnon wrote '91 Honda NSX wheels, neat. No, the wheels are from a Honda HR-V: www.imcdb.org/vehicle_620248-Honda-HR-V-1999.html |
Dodge Intrepid Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Aginnon
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2017-04-08 12:40 | Intrepid with '85 Mazda RX-7 wheels. Strange, considering a sedan. |
BMW 5 Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Aginnon
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2017-04-08 12:37 | '91 Honda NSX wheels, neat. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Desscythe17
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2017-04-08 10:58 | CarCrazedAlex586 wrote Did you see Mat's comparison chart? Yes |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) |  CarCrazedAlex586 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-08 00:48 | Desscythe17 wrote I don't think it looks like a Grand Cherokee. It's too small to be one, and there are so many shapes on it that don't match. Not sure about it being an Escape either, but it's a better match than the Grand Cherokee. Did you see Mat's comparison chart? |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Desscythe17
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2017-04-08 00:45 | I don't think it looks like a Grand Cherokee. It's too small to be one, and there are so many shapes on it that don't match. Not sure about it being an Escape either, but it's a better match than the Grand Cherokee. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Rinspeed
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2017-04-07 23:11 | Mathias98 wrote Rinspeed, did you read my last comment before you rejected my edits? yes but as i hadn't other opinion of other admin or old member |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | CarCrazedAlex586 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-04-05 13:10 | #StopRejectingMathias'Edit |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-03-16 00:01 | Am I the only one who thinks this is a first generation Honda CR-V? |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | CarCrazedAlex586 photo_librarymode_comment 2017-03-05 15:12 | Mathias98 wrote I posted a picture in December, which proves that it's a Grand Cherokee. I tried to edit it several times, but it was always rejected. But why? Just look at the picture, it's definitely a Grand Cherokee! I forgot to agree, so now we are two people on IGCD thinking about a Grand Cherokee. |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Rinspeed
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2017-03-05 12:48 | Mathias98 wrote No, I'm not. Just look at GrandTheftWiki, which has more accurate information that GTA Wikia: www.grandtheftwiki.com/Landstalker#3D_Universe i say here, not on a lambda wiki |
Jeep Grand Cherokee Grand Theft Auto III (2001) | Rinspeed
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2017-03-05 09:17 | Mathias98 wrote I posted a picture in December, which proves that it's a Grand Cherokee. I tried to edit it several times, but it was always rejected. But why? Just look at the picture, it's definitely a Grand Cherokee! you are the only one to say that |