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Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
Now that the West Balkan expansion is out now, I need some guidance on which cars spawn and what police cars are represented, because I have a lot of work to do now that RushCars has retired.

Help me out with some valuable info and it'll be worth it.

Saints Row (2022)
I don't know why the comment WolfLover94 posted was deleted, because it did make sense. Anyway, my closing thoughts and extra critique about the game, and the legacy it left behind.

Last month, news broke out about the developer, Volition closing down for good. Fans were heartbroken, especially those of who played this game franchise, Saints Row.

I totally feel your pain about the loss of Volition. It's sad. Really sad, considering this game was not only a complete disaster but also a lousy product. This entry is a long line of recent games that have been butchered by incompetence, streamlined by modern gaming's most horrible sins, watered down by turning once-great modes and activities of play into a cesspool of glitches, bugs, and crippling issues left and right, and made to cater to a burgeoning Gen-Z era of no-name trends and unwanted changes that should have been moribund a long time ago.

I did a brutal and tenacious critique of this reboot in February, using some great points that Angry Joe did when he was forced to review the game. And it still stands to this day. And now... now that the developer is dearly departed, I feel now that it is time to give in to an additional critique about this game and its legacy.

When I was younger, Saints Row 2, released in 2008 - 15 years ago - was all the rage. Literally. It was the popular sequel to the original entry, Saints Row, released exclusively to the Xbox 360 in August 2006 (It's even backwards compatible on Xbox One and Series, although the windows are glitched due to emulation). Before GTA IV, players who were patiently waiting for Rockstar's top dog at the time had to either settle for GTA San Andreas, or own several more GTA-style open world games of the day (Think of games like True Crime: New York City, Driver Parallel Lines, and Just Cause to name a few). Saints Row was the perfect stopgap during that time because it had some groundbreaking features most other games lacked or were relegated to other games, such as an inventory system for food, drink or even beer (which you can't do in GTA San Andreas because it was cut). What also made SR so special was its plethora of activities, such as drug trafficking, chop shops, hitman, insurance fraud, mayhem, and even committing store robberies at night. All of this made the original game a jack-of-all-trades saga, and with a game with good graphics of its time, along with strong dialogue and writing, plus an A-list cast of the era, it was an instant classic. It's worth checking out the original Saints Row and the sequel. Both of these games still hold up today, and worth playing more than the reboot. Saints Row The Third was a very disappointing entry, with a notably large drop of cars and slipping quality of writing, which bolstered in crass sex jokes which were admittedly hilarious at the time, but as time passed on it stopped being funny. Add the inclusion of a paramilitary group that terrorized the city of Steelport to eradicate all gangs - and even waged a monstruous, full-scale war in the city against the remants of The Syndicate's Luchadores and the Saints - that even rival those of urban warfare felt too ridiculous even for an avid Saints Row fan. Saints Row IV was slightly better given its superpowers and Matrix vibe, but by then the old era has fallen out of touch. Nearly a decade later we had some hope that Saints Row would be revived again as a reboot. But the final product of that game was nothing at all what it set out to be.

This being an ultimate critique would be an understatement, because there is literally everything wrong with this reboot. It all starts from the publisher and the German-Austrian parent company, Koch Media (they are now known as Plaion). When the main publisher, THQ, folded permanently in 2013, many of its franchises that were in the publisher umbrella were bought out by various publishers. Volition went to Deep Silver. Others were taken up by THQ Nordic, and by Embracer Group AB, who owned the majority of Koch Media. So, when the reboot was revealed, many fans were skeptical given how it would turn out. Would it end up as a Fortnite-style game? Or would it become a realistic, back-to-basics game similar to the old games? Gamescom 2021 came with the announcement of Saints Row, and fans were livid. Devotists (aka Mental Asylum escapees) who were concerned about the game's direction took to the waves and forums, and on what was then known as Twitter at the time, and voiced criticism about the game's watered down art style and presentation, and questioned why they'd call it Saints Row when half of the game isn't even close to the old games. This is the part where I'm going to tell you that Volition's responses were some of the most deplorable things I've seen regarding criticism. They were the developer's equivalent of simping, chucking out condescending remarks such as "You just don't know you want it yet", "You played it then?", with a upside down smiley emoji, "We don't think you know what Fortnite looks but you do you", and some GIFs. This behavior is worse than even the Madden, Forza or even the NASCAR simps because this is a developer we're talking about, not some random keyboard warrior (who is paid nothing) banging out misguided logic and lies. But in spite of this, many fans/devotists still wanted to give the reboot a chance and even Volition had extra time, pushing the game back from February 2022 to August 2022, to optimize the game to make it "fucking awesome". During development, the dev leads made some extremely misguided statements about what happened in the old era, and they basically stated that the original era, with Johnny Gat and co., never happened. "We totally made it up", that was a blatantly hyperbolic statement.

Needless to say it was not awesome. It certainly wasn't awesome that a game selling for 70 dollars is absolultely infested with bugs and glitches left and right, and had almost none of the personality that the old Saints Row games had set forth in 2006, let alone 2022. It is not awesome to have gameplay that is so watered down with so many design decisions that scream Fortnite than any major open-world game. And, it is certainly not awesome to have the game come with exclusive content that you need to pay more, which makes it feel like you were ripped off. There's a major problem with nearly every aspect of the game. I detailed them very much so, with the shoddy gameplay, horribly-written script, Aritifical Incompetence, vehicle physics that ignore all kinds of laws of physics, and general boredom.

Shooting any weapon in the game feels like you're shooting BBs. The gunplay is so damn floaty that it's hard to get a bead on who you're aiming to and these enemies take more bullets than Tony Montana before they go down, meaning you'd have to rely on headshots. Many of the game's small smattering of weapons are infuriatingly powerless, with little to no impact and hit feedback, and many of them cannot be customized outside of paintjobs. What's the point if the paltry upgrades make it less of a poor gun?

The driving physics are the absolute worst in any open-world action game to date. The physics seem to be a cut-and-paste job of Fast & Furious Crossroads. Smashing into other cars is more akin to a lag switch in a racing game and completely ignore all laws of physics, making it a laughable spectacle, especially if there is a row of parked cars on the street. Collisions are incredibly inconsistent, a victim of taking blase stuff off movies and shoehorning them into a game. T-bone any car and watch as the car blows up. You can even destroy massive vehicles such as the Peterliner or Cheetah with a single side collision. I'm not making this up at all.

The writing is so bad I would even praise Ubisoft's terrible dialuoge over this any day of the week. Cringey lines such as "GG", among other things make it worse. I have never seen such bad writing since Forza Horizon 5's stories. The biggest monument of failure in writing is in the mission "Going Overboard", where Kevin says this line:

"This is gonna be an epic statement. That yacht's guarded A.F."

...which then ends up being a back-and-forth banter about the abbreviation. This has the personality of a cardboard box and will leave you begging for it to end.

For the soundtrack, which is the only redeeming factor, it's quite good. My favorite station is the Cypher station because it has some awesome classic hip hop beats, such as "Party Up" by the late DMX, Delinquent Habits' banger from '96, "Tres Delinquentes", and Pharcyde's "Runnin'", off their second album, Labcabincalifornia, in 1995. Every other song was mediocre at best. But what pulled this down is the fact that while many of these songs are licensed, and in this era, streamers have to keep cash rolling, hence the safe streaming option. Volition chose to go the cheap route and not bother to include songs that didn't require royalties. In general, royalty-free songs bring something new to replace copyright-sensitive songs like "I Left My Wallet in El Segundo" or "Slam" - both from A Tribe Called Quest and Onyx, respectively. In Saints Row 2022, the copyright-free option shuts off ALL sound. No replaced music, just silence. Was Volition lazy? Yes.

Quite frankly it was tough to see a beloved franchise die on the vine like this. And especially one saddled by a talented team from the heart of Illinois who were caught in the line of fire by Embracer's restructuring.

Pour one out for this developer, and keep reliving the memories of Saints Row '06 and Saints Row 2.

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Chevrolet Colorado

Need for Speed: Unbound (2022)
Those mirrors are completely broken... did EA screw up this model?
Cadillac Series 62

Chevy Chase (1991)
So it's most likely a 50s Eldorado convertible.
Mercedes-Benz W124

Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
It's awkwardly designed. I get going for a 80s sedan seems a bit hard to pull off but it seems a bit changed compared to a real W124. The custom lights are the only trim available and the rockerpanels are always white regardless of color scheme, which looks really tacky and trashy.

Interestingly they also went the extra mile and made additional modifications. Notably some models will spawn with these headlights with an X dotted across the lens, as shown below. Credit to them for including light wipers, which were phased out after the 1990s.


It also comes with spoilers and louvers. Which looks terrible in my opinion.

Sorry if these images came up huge.

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2023-10-16 17:33:32
Siemens Intercity Experimental

Take the A-Train IV (1993)
Siemens ICE 1 (DB BR 401)
Custom Made Jeepney

WRC Generations (2022)
There's custom buses like this in the Philippines, so maybe that could be custom made like they are?
Lexus GS 300

Grand Theft Auto IV (2008)
Speedevil a écrit
RIP burning Feroci

That was well-deserved though. Nobody wanted a burning car as a main pic, and well, stuff had to change.

Nothing lasts forever. That is an old saying that will never go away. Not in a million years. Not even in however far Futurama got to in "The Late Philip J. Fry".
Made for Game SUV

L.A. Rush (2005)
It's MFG
Harbin Y-12

Just Cause 3 (2015)
Pretty sure this is a Britten-Norman BN2 Islander
unknown

Take the A-Train IV (1993)
I believe it's this thing right here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Monorail_1000_series
Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS

Forza Horizon 5 (2021)
That's because it is a British model, hence why it is RHD. Playground likely sourced a localized model as-is.

Just trying to clarify what was being said before.

Burnout 3: Takedown (2004)
Your Worst Nightmare, you should respect someone who is a moderator.

The reason why most of GTA III beta cars that did appear in the final product aren't allowed is pretty much written in the tin can. What he said about Horizon Chase in the regard here doesn't apply because they were there before. Same with ETS2 which had a few cop cars remastered or replaced.

Crazy Frog Racer (GBA) (2005)
Don't remind me of that video about the most annoying thing in the world
Pontiac Gran Prix

Police Chase 3D (2014)
In all honesty this looks like a first-gen Ford Focus sedan.
BMW 5 Touring

Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
Why not? German cops have used the 5-series in service, although they don't use the wagon version shown above. Sedan model would've sufficed.

Maybe somebody who knows what police in Germany deploy and use knows, but I am a little stumped why they chose a wagon of this, and especially not this horrid model.
BMW 5

Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
With the loss of this police car in the recent maintenance update - the one for West Balkans DLC - the game is now left with just the civilian version of this car.

But to be fair the BMW 5-Series does fit well with Switzerland's police force, as they've used them as regular service. Geneva, not so much.
MCI 102 A3

Kanjozoku Game レーサー (2022)
Wait, that model came from San Andreas? Oh boy... Do we have definitive proof about it or will it be deleted?
MCI 102 A3

Kanjozoku Game レーサー (2022)
I'm honestly surprised nobody has suggested a MCI bus.
Ford Escort

Boona Racer 2000 (2000)
What a Mk.I Escort would look like in 2050, where flying cars dominate the market.
Ford Econoline

Boona Racer 2000 (2000)
Bruisemobile a écrit
Ford Econoline.

Yea, a really dodgy one.

Forza Motorsport 5 (2013)
J-2 I did read your post and I definitely agree with you 100%. FM2023 is a bonafide disaster next to Redfall and any Madden released. Thank god I did not spend 100 dollars off this, and I don't get it.

I really don't get how 6 years of development (Yes, 6 YEARS) and this is what T10 had to show for it. This is utterly criminal! FM23 is far buggier than SR2022, Maddens and NASCAR 21 Ignition combined. Your points about the PC version being horrid is true.

Even speedfreak doesn't even want to do the entry because of how bad it turned out! That speaks volumes of how low a developer could do to release a game.

I'm shocked that in spite of its flaws, FH5 has drastically improved by comparison. What the hell happened?
Mitsubishi Galant

WRC Generations (2022)
Reused: igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=156275
Opel Omega

WRC Generations (2022)
That's an Opel Omega
Ford Mustang

CSR Racing 2 (2016)
Victor_2003 a écrit

The Crew Motorfest have the convertible version.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the coupe model, which would likely be in console games in general. Namely, Forza which would likely have the Dark Horse model.

A convertible version would not fit in many racing games.
Dodge Magnum

Forza Horizon 5 (2021)
I personally don't think doubleposting helps in that regard. As for everything else, I think this car would've served in FM23, but T10 didn't include it. Which is dumb.

I largely dislike most cars from the 2000s because they are just terrible cars, aside from iconic models like the Carrera GT. The Magnum SRT8 here is the lone exception for American cars that aren't trash.

Forza Motorsport (2023)
speedfreak975 a écrit
The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes.

Granted, that would be expected considering the game hasn't been globally released yet, only in early access. I will agree with you on that note, but what of timed events? We have an Acura that's locked behind the timegate, and by the time they sort out the visual maladies, the car won't be available anymore, and we'd have to wait for months.

Not to mention that they totally lied to us about the cars we were getting. Why can't we drive the 935, Oreca 07 that was clearly shown in pre-release material, only to suddenly withdraw it for no apparent reason and screw us over.

This BS with modern gaming needs to stop.

Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
Antti-san a écrit
IMO, it would be nice to replace the current country pictures in "tracks or places" with the actual ingame road maps. Same for the states in American Truck Sim, as well.

Why? It doesn't make sense at all. In all honesty I don't think the ingame road maps are feasible to screencap and use as Tracks or places. And nothing lasts forever due to map reworks coming in updates, so that suggestion is kinda moot.

For one, the world map UI is kind of gray... and not visually appealing. Especially with smaller locales like Luxembourg. Scenery shots, such as monuments to a country work well here.

And these 'welcome to' state signs in ATS have traditionally been here for a while, so I wouldn't change it.
Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS

Forza Horizon 5 (2021)
This will be a blast to drive.

It's also interesting to note this is a British-specification model of the GT4RS. Meaning it is RHD and has the recycled FH4 Euro license plate.
Volkswagen Golf R

Forza Horizon 5 (2021)
Actually this is in Forza Motorsport 2023, and available to buy.

Don't know why PG wound up making this paywall DLC in the first place. :/
Toyota Corolla

Mafia III (2016)
Eh, not really. Still a mk1 Corolla to me.

Confrontation: The Battle for Black Gold (2005)
Russian/Original name (as described on the cover above): Protivostoyanie: Bitva za Chenoe Zoloto

Is that correct? Forgive me for not being fully fluent in Cyrillic letters.

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Forza Horizon 5 (2021)
Bringing the Tsuru is a welcome change for this game.

Also, we got another DLC pack.

-2020 KTM X-Bow GT2
-2021 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS (UK-Spec)
-2022 VW Golf R
-Elemental RP1 (British manufacturer, name was found in files)
Chevrolet Camaro

Ion Fury (2019)
On the actual video this actually has the spoiler and hood scoop meaning this is a circa 1991 Z28 model.
Buick Skylark

Ion Fury (2019)
Found your car in the video, mate. It's a '86 Buick Skylark.
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_688672-Buick-Skylark-1986.html
Volkswagen Golf

Schwebebahn-Simulator 2013 (2013)
It is a VW Golf, most likely a 6th generation model. Five door Polo models have a third window on the side.
MAN GTW 72

Schwebebahn-Simulator 2013 (2013)
MAN GTW 72
unknown

RoboCop: Rogue City (2023)
Modern ones I might add. I wonder what stock photo they used for this.
Alfa Romeo Giulietta

Forza Motorsport (2023)
carknower a écrit
Only 1 Alfa Romeo ? What a fail !!

Bit of an overreaction, no? Also you need to be aware that T10/PG recently reacquired the Stellantis cars, so it might be a while before the Alfa Romeo/Lancia/Fiat/Abarth family will be reunited to the FM reboot. At the very least it should be free content.

A recent patch fixed the Forza aero issue but the thumbnail remains. Will that be fixed? Who knows.

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FPV GT-F

Forza Motorsport (2023)
J-2 a écrit
Yup...is bugged. Front bumper inserts should be black, not body colored.

Yet another example of consistent regressing of perfectly accurate models. Saw your other pic, and it's even more repulsive that they didn't bother to change the engine bay's colors. Laziness this is.

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Aston Martin Vanquish

Forza Motorsport (2023)
The old Vanquish has been around old Forza games before, but many don't remember this model being around much. I'm pretty happy to see this return. You can tell so many people requested it too.

Euro Truck Simulator 2 (2012)
So it's all official: West Balkans will release two weeks from now: October 19th.

Which means that the remaining content will be added around the 1.48.5 update, which is rare in these cases.

This one is bittersweet since this is basically the only map expansion we're getting after Iberia. Heart of Russia was a tragic story, and I'm happy to see the Balkan DLC to come into the light.

I will be the sole contributor for everything that's in this big map expansion.
Boeing-Stearman Model 75

RoboCop: Rogue City (2023)
Boeing-Stearman Model 75
Volkswagen Passat

RoboCop: Rogue City (2023)
No this is actually a first-gen VW Passat. Even has the rear canted third window.

For reference: www.imcdb.org/vehicle_648658-Volkswagen-Passat-Typ-32-1974.html
Ford Bronco

RoboCop: Rogue City (2023)
Yup, it is a 1980s Ford Bronco
Buick Skylark

Ion Fury (2019)
This poster is a very fitting name for the state of IGCD that it is in, and the profanity highlights it better. It also scares away very bad people, and trolls, like vw and Leandro for example. They even heighten it further with the thieves and the wife part. Which shows how cool they are.

As for the car itself, it looks like a generic late 80s to early 90s American coupe, known for poor quality. Pretty sure there's a stock photo or press release pic of this car somewhere.

Disclaimer: The first paragraph is only used for humor purposes.

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Nissan Skyline GT-R

Forza Motorsport (2023)
Six years of development, and they did not change anything about this model. Still the worst BNR32 in existence. I bet it's going to have the same proportion problems, the warped steering wheel badge, and the works. And it will be half-Forzavista.
Chevrolet Chevelle

Forza Motorsport (2023)
Antti-san a écrit
Looks like they still keep regurgitating the same ol awful Chevelle model. :/

It's more than the Chevelle that's bad. Search my name and I can tell you they just straight up copy and pasted all the FM7 or FH5 models and upscaled it to death. They don't even bother to include the SS trim - which has been missing since 2014 - and it made the model worse.

Furthermore, they keep dragging the same awful Civic EP3, Corrado, Silvia S15 and the F355 models that date back to at least 2005. I posted a suggestion regarding remastering these unloved models, and what did they do?


They didn't do a damn thing.
Honda Civic

Forza Motorsport (2023)
I love how they are dragging this awful model for over 18 years with virtually no changes whatsoever. :/

And this, once again needs to be listed as a 2001 or 2002 because the bumpers are not correct for a 2004 model year.
unknown

Ion Fury (2019)
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