Forza Motorsport (2023)
Developer: Turn 10 Studios
Publisher: Xbox Game Studios
Platforms: PC, Xbox Series
Damageable vehicles: Yes
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| speedfreak975 wrote |
I respect your view, but sadly, after a few other tries of playing it, I'm raising my bar to I just plain hate this game, don't care about what does best anymore, it's like saying the Titanic while breaking in half still looked elegant.
Tried to make a race in Silverstone a few minutes ago, in order to get the Acura 'prize' car. Way too many loading screens, too much info before starting the race, the practise laps suddenly start in a place within the track you better recognize fast before you start driving, then the race, starts out of nowhere, no countdown, without time to react, sound gets stuck 10 seconds even when paused. Tracks keeps disappearing. I get so many penalties for getting off course I end up finishing 12th. Restart the race? You will be selecting again your place in the grid, checking all the driver's info again, all the loading screens...just wanted to restart the race, not the whole event to be reconfigured from scratch, so I better turn on rewind.
Still cannot import my FH5 stuff (at this point I don't feel like doing new stuff on this game altogether) and maybe the stuff I already shared has been stolen, since downloaded skins and tunes might do so unlocked, so people can do as they please.
Game's a joke, that's it. I look back at FM2-3-4-5-6 and 7, especially in the golden days of FM4 when I was still doing the shots for IGCD, and I just want to cry, they murdered the franchise. So much is broken, even at design level, I don't think this can be fixed even if they care and try, looks like it was made by a bad AI prompted by some accountants that only want to make money, but forgot that quality means sales first.
I might be too negative, but honestly, I can't find a redeeming feature in this mess. FM5 again was really poundered 10 years ago because of the lack of content, reviews show that. I defended it, thought people were unfair, I too missed a lot of things that never returned, not only then, but even today, but the game was enjoyable, felt complete, solid, stable, felt put together nicely. Looked amazing, played amazing. Now, every time I think about giving this another try, I just feel overwhelmed, as doing a chore you need to do, but don't want to. You shouldn't feel that with any game, and personally, feeling that, with a Forza title, is something I'm still trying to process, I just can't believe this is happening...
|I dont necessarily think this game does everything worse, thats inaccurate. Rivals is better, Qol done there is great. MP is leagues ahead but still needs work. Core gameplay itself is miles ahead of any of their previous games. Game has solid infrastructure to work on and improve. Ai has pace but racecraft is non existent that needs alot of work. what they've been doing for last 6 years, not sure.|
Visually game suffers with bugs and oddities with materials and lighting. Hence why no entries yet.
Artistic direction is weird. Game lacks sharpness and vividness all previous Forzas have. Reflections can be stronger.
Ive taken few test shots, game can look very good under some conditions. But I'd rather wait for 1st few major updates game gets hopefully visual inconsistencies and specific car bugs are ironed out. Until then I'm buying all the cars (I'm aware you can rent, not a fan of sticking to default color options)
-- Last edit: 2023-10-26 20:51:17
| TheGreaser wrote |
Exactly right. Right now, 3 main issues are:
1-FH5 import is broken, will not sync designs and/or vinyl groups, funnily enough any other Forza titles work, so I was at least able to import old designs from FM7 and before, but sadly I started work on a complete Nissan R391 with a Le Mans livery in FH5 before the game was released. Spent hours doing really hard logos with little to none real life references to look at, and I'm not redoing them in FM just because they can't make it work, which connects to the 2nd issue:
2-The editor lacks ALL of the improvements made to FH5, the UI in FH5 is very visual and quick to work with, you can access options really quickly, the vertical layer view is nice, the car can be seen around nicely with great lightning and control over the camera. In FM23 they just took the one from FM7 and made it somehow worse, I don't like working there at all. The most simple things are now broken, a very good example extends for example to long lists. Let's say you're browsing the car catalog or your garage, you select manufacturer list view, and of course, if you want to go to the end in one click, simply hit LB to go backwards and start on z right? You can't now. You have to move forwards no matter what, and that was just a very specific and, in the big scheme of things, small issue, there are so many it makes my head spin.
3-Yet another issue to a feature I was looking for, now you can 'rent' any car of the game, paint it, and sell the design, so you don't go bankrupt trying to buy the needed cars first, and of course...it's broken. I successfully managed to try it twice, and after the 3rd time, after rebooting the game and the PC, after 2 patches...never got the feature to work ever again. Every time I select a car I don't own to paint, it just keeps loading in a loop. Not crashed, game is still working, but will not exit the loop, you need to restart the game.
So yeah, long story short, I can't enjoy driving, painting, taking pics or even take a look at cars due to all the visual bugs and issues, poor shaders and rendering (the game looks bleached out) so game will wait until it lets me enjoy it, not the other way round.
In fact, I could offer myself to start doing some pics if speedfreak975 agreed but so far I haven't been able to do a single satisfactory picture. So yeah, not looking good for now I'm afraid, game feels somehow rushed after all these development years, and at this point maybe is a good idea to actually start over and throw this to the bin, it's Titanic being patched one rivet at a time while it sinks, there are worse games out there? Definitely. As a Forza game, this is the worst one? Hands down. In every single way.
| TheGreaser wrote |
1. He’s still playing the game, just not taking photos yet
2. License issues, I’d presume
| speedfreak975 wrote |
Yes, the graphics and the upgrade system is really garbage in this game, that silly misty haze that covers every track at daytime is just terrible, and the overall graphics are so blurry and last gen-ish, almost looks like a PS2 or PS3 game, and not a next gen game, looks terrible to be honest.
FM7 and FH5 looks miles better than this, and the upgrade car levelling system will kill the game before the end of the year since no one will have the patience to drive every single car for 100:s of miles just to upgrade the anti-roll bars or tyres
Total bone head system
-- Last edit: 2023-10-07 16:54:12
|The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes.|
| Solarriors wrote |
Gotta save some as DLC.
|The car list could have easily reached over the 1000 cars finally, even without the buggies and so, somehow they decided to cut all of it in half... I don't understand it.|
|Bit of a mixed bag honestly. There's a lot of major omissions. Also, this is not really this game's fault, but I see a lot of cars that could have made their way into Horizon 5, but haven't for some reason.|
|Finished adding all placeholders for all available cars at lauch. Every single car seen in previous media, but currently not accesible is set as Unplayable until a way to obtain them is revealed.|
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