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McLaren Sabre

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US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-12-04 19:16
First on site. Strictly not street-legal and just 15 were made, only for the US.

The true meaning of "bespoke".
McLaren Senna GTR

Forza Motorsport (2023)
UK FireWheels58 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-24 15:51
Based on this leak, the car will be added into the car pass sometime in the future.
Lamborghini Huracán Super Trofeo EVO

Forza Motorsport (2023)
UK FireWheels58 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-24 15:50
Based on this leak, the car will be added into the car pass sometime in the future.
Porsche 956

Forza Motorsport (2023)
UK FireWheels58 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-24 15:42
Based on this leak, the car will be added into the car pass sometime in the future.
McLaren 720S GT3

Forza Motorsport (2023)
US Ferring Sylveon photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-09 14:57
An awesome piece of modern racing McLaren technology. <3
GMA T.50

Forza Motorsport (2023)
US Ferring Sylveon photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-09 14:56
Aaaahhh, she's finally in a console racing game. ^w^
Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

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UK Daboi492 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-09 10:58
burninrubber12345 a écrit

Yeah a lot of cars are missing, but I'm just hoping for a new Bugatti in general, there are a ton of them came out in the last years. The last Bugatti we got is the Divo back in 2019.

Mobile games probably have all the licenses so actual games are left with the scraps for now
Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

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IT burninrubber12345 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-09 10:31
J-2 a écrit


It was cut in the first place, so getting it back was a must, not having a Veyron is mental. They have a lot of work to do, taking into account adding new cars, adding returning cars, and fixing already added cars.

Yeah a lot of cars are missing, but I'm just hoping for a new Bugatti in general, there are a ton of them came out in the last years. The last Bugatti we got is the Divo back in 2019.
Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

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ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-07 16:31
burninrubber12345 a écrit
Seriously? I thought they would add a new Bugatti such the Centodieci, Chiron Super Sport or the Voiture Noire.
And... we just got a 10+ old Veyron... yeah.


It was cut in the first place, so getting it back was a must, not having a Veyron is mental. They have a lot of work to do, taking into account adding new cars, adding returning cars, and fixing already added cars.
Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

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IT burninrubber12345 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-07 15:54
Seriously? I thought they would add a new Bugatti such the Centodieci, Chiron Super Sport or the Voiture Noire.
And... we just got a 10+ old Veyron... yeah.

Forza Motorsport (2023)


ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-11-03 23:09
speedfreak975 a écrit
I dont necessarily think this game does everything worse, thats inaccurate. Rivals is better, Qol done there is great. MP is leagues ahead but still needs work. Core gameplay itself is miles ahead of any of their previous games. Game has solid infrastructure to work on and improve. Ai has pace but racecraft is non existent that needs alot of work. what they've been doing for last 6 years, not sure.

Visually game suffers with bugs and oddities with materials and lighting. Hence why no entries yet.
Artistic direction is weird. Game lacks sharpness and vividness all previous Forzas have. Reflections can be stronger.

Ive taken few test shots, game can look very good under some conditions. But I'd rather wait for 1st few major updates game gets hopefully visual inconsistencies and specific car bugs are ironed out. Until then I'm buying all the cars (I'm aware you can rent, not a fan of sticking to default color options)


I respect your view, but sadly, after a few other tries of playing it, I'm raising my bar to I just plain hate this game, don't care about what does best anymore, it's like saying the Titanic while breaking in half still looked elegant.

Tried to make a race in Silverstone a few minutes ago, in order to get the Acura 'prize' car. Way too many loading screens, too much info before starting the race, the practise laps suddenly start in a place within the track you better recognize fast before you start driving, then the race, starts out of nowhere, no countdown, without time to react, sound gets stuck 10 seconds even when paused. Tracks keeps disappearing. I get so many penalties for getting off course I end up finishing 12th. Restart the race? You will be selecting again your place in the grid, checking all the driver's info again, all the loading screens...just wanted to restart the race, not the whole event to be reconfigured from scratch, so I better turn on rewind.

Still cannot import my FH5 stuff (at this point I don't feel like doing new stuff on this game altogether) and maybe the stuff I already shared has been stolen, since downloaded skins and tunes might do so unlocked, so people can do as they please.

Game's a joke, that's it. I look back at FM2-3-4-5-6 and 7, especially in the golden days of FM4 when I was still doing the shots for IGCD, and I just want to cry, they murdered the franchise. So much is broken, even at design level, I don't think this can be fixed even if they care and try, looks like it was made by a bad AI prompted by some accountants that only want to make money, but forgot that quality means sales first.

I might be too negative, but honestly, I can't find a redeeming feature in this mess. FM5 again was really poundered 10 years ago because of the lack of content, reviews show that. I defended it, thought people were unfair, I too missed a lot of things that never returned, not only then, but even today, but the game was enjoyable, felt complete, solid, stable, felt put together nicely. Looked amazing, played amazing. Now, every time I think about giving this another try, I just feel overwhelmed, as doing a chore you need to do, but don't want to. You shouldn't feel that with any game, and personally, feeling that, with a Forza title, is something I'm still trying to process, I just can't believe this is happening...

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LB speedfreak975 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-26 20:41
I dont necessarily think this game does everything worse, thats inaccurate. Rivals is better, Qol done there is great. MP is leagues ahead but still needs work. Core gameplay itself is miles ahead of any of their previous games. Game has solid infrastructure to work on and improve. Ai has pace but racecraft is non existent that needs alot of work. what they've been doing for last 6 years, not sure.

Visually game suffers with bugs and oddities with materials and lighting. Hence why no entries yet.
Artistic direction is weird. Game lacks sharpness and vividness all previous Forzas have. Reflections can be stronger.

Ive taken few test shots, game can look very good under some conditions. But I'd rather wait for 1st few major updates game gets hopefully visual inconsistencies and specific car bugs are ironed out. Until then I'm buying all the cars (I'm aware you can rent, not a fan of sticking to default color options)

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2023-10-26 20:51:17
Nissan Skyline GT-R

Forza Motorsport (2023)


GDL3 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-26 11:56
Still wrong Model
Nissan Silvia

Forza Motorsport (2023)


GDL3 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-26 11:54
🤣👉

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ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-25 23:43
TheGreaser a écrit

J-2, who used to handle past Forzas, just could not bring himself to play it on PC (as I frequent GTPlanet). He's gotten countless problems with optimization and his passion is making authentic liveries, which I do like (and have used his full Blue Meanie Brock Commodore plenty of times), but with this entry he has had nothing but serious problems with importing designs. The bug list is the size of Prometheus and many Shakespeare works combined, worse than FH5 of all things.


Exactly right. Right now, 3 main issues are:

1-FH5 import is broken, will not sync designs and/or vinyl groups, funnily enough any other Forza titles work, so I was at least able to import old designs from FM7 and before, but sadly I started work on a complete Nissan R391 with a Le Mans livery in FH5 before the game was released. Spent hours doing really hard logos with little to none real life references to look at, and I'm not redoing them in FM just because they can't make it work, which connects to the 2nd issue:

2-The editor lacks ALL of the improvements made to FH5, the UI in FH5 is very visual and quick to work with, you can access options really quickly, the vertical layer view is nice, the car can be seen around nicely with great lightning and control over the camera. In FM23 they just took the one from FM7 and made it somehow worse, I don't like working there at all. The most simple things are now broken, a very good example extends for example to long lists. Let's say you're browsing the car catalog or your garage, you select manufacturer list view, and of course, if you want to go to the end in one click, simply hit LB to go backwards and start on z right? You can't now. You have to move forwards no matter what, and that was just a very specific and, in the big scheme of things, small issue, there are so many it makes my head spin.

3-Yet another issue to a feature I was looking for, now you can 'rent' any car of the game, paint it, and sell the design, so you don't go bankrupt trying to buy the needed cars first, and of course...it's broken. I successfully managed to try it twice, and after the 3rd time, after rebooting the game and the PC, after 2 patches...never got the feature to work ever again. Every time I select a car I don't own to paint, it just keeps loading in a loop. Not crashed, game is still working, but will not exit the loop, you need to restart the game.

So yeah, long story short, I can't enjoy driving, painting, taking pics or even take a look at cars due to all the visual bugs and issues, poor shaders and rendering (the game looks bleached out) so game will wait until it lets me enjoy it, not the other way round.

In fact, I could offer myself to start doing some pics if speedfreak975 agreed but so far I haven't been able to do a single satisfactory picture. So yeah, not looking good for now I'm afraid, game feels somehow rushed after all these development years, and at this point maybe is a good idea to actually start over and throw this to the bin, it's Titanic being patched one rivet at a time while it sinks, there are worse games out there? Definitely. As a Forza game, this is the worst one? Hands down. In every single way.
Nissan Skyline

Forza Motorsport (2023)
US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-25 22:27
I wanted to update this statement from before on why the model had tampered lights. From what I know they didn't change them, and maybe that would be a plus, because it was likely a graphical error.

Unfortunately it was downgraded to its FH4 counterpart, losing its four-wheel steering tech it had on the real car. The rear wheels will not turn in sync with the rest of the car, something FH5 did at launch.

What the hell? Did T10 not take any notes that PG had done while FH5 was in development?

Forza Motorsport (2023)
US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-25 22:21
Daboi492 a écrit

1. He's still playing the game, just not taking photos yet
2. License issues, I'd presume

Okay... lemme deconstruct some of your statements. Yes, Speedfreak will do this entry, but he's gotten apprehensive because of major graphical errors abound this game. But the major problem persists with massive issues abound on both Xbox and PC, and the latter being the worst overall.

J-2, who used to handle past Forzas, just could not bring himself to play it on PC (as I frequent GTPlanet). He's gotten countless problems with optimization and his passion is making authentic liveries, which I do like (and have used his full Blue Meanie Brock Commodore plenty of times), but with this entry he has had nothing but serious problems with importing designs. The bug list is the size of Prometheus and many Shakespeare works combined, worse than FH5 of all things. This is primarily why I started the bugfest thread as a legacy discussion thread dedicated to bugs in Forza, as with every other one, from Forzacentral.

With constant game crashes, graphical glitches and somehow making the Essenza and X-Bow GT2 sound worse, it adds up why you shouldn't play it in its current state. FH5 got that right with their car sounds, and these two are in that game, albeit paid DLC.

Second thing you've mentioned. I seriously doubt it's licensing considering 1) They've shown these cars in the Dev Direct earlier this year, and put two of them in the spotlight, and 2) The AI can spawn in cars not attainable at the time, such as the #15 Whistler Mustang which is coming to the car pass, and 3) The banner on X/Twitter has an Oreca, which will come next month.

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UK Daboi492 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-20 14:07
TheGreaser a écrit
Granted, that would be expected considering the game hasn't been globally released yet, only in early access. I will agree with you on that note, but what of timed events? We have an Acura that's locked behind the timegate, and by the time they sort out the visual maladies, the car won't be available anymore, and we'd have to wait for months.

Not to mention that they totally lied to us about the cars we were getting. Why can't we drive the 935, Oreca 07 that was clearly shown in pre-release material, only to suddenly withdraw it for no apparent reason and screw us over.

This BS with modern gaming needs to stop.

1. He’s still playing the game, just not taking photos yet
2. License issues, I’d presume
Lamborghini Aventador SVJ

Forza Motorsport (2023)


UK Daboi492 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-15 22:02
somehow the car is damaged in this preview pic
Ford Racing Puma

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US Ferring Sylveon photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-12 16:20
I'm very glad she's back. :3
Alfa Romeo Giulietta

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RU AudiRS4 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-12 08:07
And the image shows some random built from the ground up customization applied
Dodge Challenger SRT TA1

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US JERACERX photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-11 23:25
carknower a écrit
I knew a TA 1 version with 850 + hp would be to good to be true, and it was

This is the TA1 car, it's just mislabeled
BMW 323ti Compact

Forza Motorsport (2023)


US Ayaka601 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-10 15:19
I'm happy,cute BMW back.
Oreca 07 Gibson

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BE Speedevil photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-10 03:04
Klumb3r a écrit
I had no idea that Jackie Chan had his own racing team

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Chan_DC_Racing
Oreca 07 Gibson

Forza Motorsport (2023)


CL Klumb3r photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-09 19:30
I had no idea that Jackie Chan had his own racing team

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US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-07 17:01
speedfreak975 a écrit
The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes.

Granted, that would be expected considering the game hasn't been globally released yet, only in early access. I will agree with you on that note, but what of timed events? We have an Acura that's locked behind the timegate, and by the time they sort out the visual maladies, the car won't be available anymore, and we'd have to wait for months.

Not to mention that they totally lied to us about the cars we were getting. Why can't we drive the 935, Oreca 07 that was clearly shown in pre-release material, only to suddenly withdraw it for no apparent reason and screw us over.

This BS with modern gaming needs to stop.

Forza Motorsport (2023)
UK carknower photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-07 16:51
speedfreak975 a écrit
The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes.

Yes, the graphics and the upgrade system is really garbage in this game, that silly misty haze that covers every track at daytime is just terrible, and the overall graphics are so blurry and last gen-ish, almost looks like a PS2 or PS3 game, and not a next gen game, looks terrible to be honest.
FM7 and FH5 looks miles better than this, and the upgrade car levelling system will kill the game before the end of the year since no one will have the patience to drive every single car for 100:s of miles just to upgrade the anti-roll bars or tyres :(
Total bone head system

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2023-10-07 16:54:12

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LB speedfreak975 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-07 11:26
The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes.

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2023-10-07 08:03
Solarriors a écrit
The car list could have easily reached over the 1000 cars finally, even without the buggies and so, somehow they decided to cut all of it in half... I don't understand it.

Gotta save some as DLC. :whistle:
Lotus 40

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US Ferring Sylveon photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-07 01:17
Tiny lil Lotus race car. XD
Dodge Challenger SRT Demon

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US Ferring Sylveon photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-07 01:10
We need a drag strip in this game for this car. XD
BMW 323ti Compact

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UK carknower photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-07 00:30
Needs to be added to FH5.

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Lancia Delta

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UK carknower photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-07 00:22
It`s retarded if this isn`t gonna be in it

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Aston Martin V8 Vantage

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BR Victor_2003 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-06 13:48
Finally another 1998 Vantage.
Pontiac Firebird Trans Am

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FR Skyline159 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-06 03:25
Returning, but too bad for this car in Horizon series.
Nissan Skyline GT-R

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FR Skyline159 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-06 02:56
It's return... again.
Lotus Esprit

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CH Solarriors photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-06 02:20
we got it back but we lost the exige and elise
BMW 323ti Compact

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CH Solarriors photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-06 01:52
return

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CH Solarriors photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 23:54
The car list could have easily reached over the 1000 cars finally, even without the buggies and so, somehow they decided to cut all of it in half... I don't understand it.
Alfa Romeo Giulietta

Forza Motorsport (2023)
US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 18:10
carknower a écrit
Only 1 Alfa Romeo ? What a fail !!

Bit of an overreaction, no? Also you need to be aware that T10/PG recently reacquired the Stellantis cars, so it might be a while before the Alfa Romeo/Lancia/Fiat/Abarth family will be reunited to the FM reboot. At the very least it should be free content.

A recent patch fixed the Forza aero issue but the thumbnail remains. Will that be fixed? Who knows.

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2023-10-18 00:54:13
FPV GT-F

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US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 18:07
J-2 a écrit
Yup...is bugged. Front bumper inserts should be black, not body colored.

Yet another example of consistent regressing of perfectly accurate models. Saw your other pic, and it's even more repulsive that they didn't bother to change the engine bay's colors. Laziness this is.

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2023-10-05 18:11:14
Aston Martin Vanquish

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US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 18:05
The old Vanquish has been around old Forza games before, but many don't remember this model being around much. I'm pretty happy to see this return. You can tell so many people requested it too.
Aston Martin Vanquish

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BR Victor_2003 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 14:26
Finally a game that remembered the existence of the first gen Vanquish which disappeared from games.
Alfa Romeo Giulietta

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UK carknower photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 11:46
Only 1 Alfa Romeo ? What a fail !! Retarded developers

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2023-10-07 00:25:42
Aston Martin Vanquish

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ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 10:37
Antti-san a écrit

Didn't realise this hasn't been in Forza since FM4! Should bring back the 2012 one too, though.


At least they brought back the '17 Zagato from FH4...top priorities at least personally would be the '77 Vantage and DB7 Zagato among others, including the Rapide, and let's not forget the One-77, which somehow didn't make the cut, plenty of missing cars to choose from.
Aston Martin Vanquish

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FI Antti-san photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 08:38
J-2 a écrit
Yet another really welcomed return.

Didn't realise this hasn't been in Forza since FM4! Should bring back the 2012 one too, though.

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US Runoff1999 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 07:59
Bit of a mixed bag honestly. There's a lot of major omissions. Also, this is not really this game's fault, but I see a lot of cars that could have made their way into Horizon 5, but haven't for some reason.
Toyota Corolla

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US Ayaka601 photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 05:15
I'm happy. Corolla is back.
Nissan Skyline GT-R

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US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 00:05
Six years of development, and they did not change anything about this model. Still the worst BNR32 in existence. I bet it's going to have the same proportion problems, the warped steering wheel badge, and the works. And it will be half-Forzavista.
Chevrolet Chevelle

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US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2023-10-05 00:00
Antti-san a écrit
Looks like they still keep regurgitating the same ol awful Chevelle model. :/

It's more than the Chevelle that's bad. Search my name and I can tell you they just straight up copy and pasted all the FM7 or FH5 models and upscaled it to death. They don't even bother to include the SS trim - which has been missing since 2014 - and it made the model worse.

Furthermore, they keep dragging the same awful Civic EP3, Corrado, Silvia S15 and the F355 models that date back to at least 2005. I posted a suggestion regarding remastering these unloved models, and what did they do?


They didn't do a damn thing.
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