2011 Ford Transit

	Extra info: 2.2 TDCi Chassis: V347/8 Mk: 3 Class: Van / MPV Origin: Germany Unplayable vehicle

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davidmanoy 2016-08-12 15:54	It's actually a 2006 one.
J-2 2014-10-22 22:43	That's a good point there. They really never used Marks for Transit vans, as they do with other cars. It's useful for listing, though. But unrealistic. Maybe a debate should be made about this. I recall a user saying that we use Marks for Mustangs and Camaros, and not Firebirds, for example. It's a matter of all, or none (except the ones who use Marks in real life, of course)
krq9 2014-10-22 20:12	I actually agree with you, as this is most definitely the fourth generation model. I'm just wondering if IMCDB got it wrong or could it perhaps be that the change in "Mark x" designation may be independent from actual generation changes? This would be the case with Ford Mondeo, for example. The mk2 mondeo is a facelifted mk1, but still essentially a first generation model. The second generation model is labelled "mk3" and so on. This is somewhat confusing. Also does Ford actually use the "mark x" label for Transits? Quote from Wikipedia: Quote Whilst there have been four basic Transit platforms since 1965, the various facelifts and upgrades over the years have been referred to using a conflicting range of "Mark" numbers, with some sources counting a facelift as a new "Mark", some not. Ford's own historical look back at Transit production, published for the launch of the 1994 model, avoids the issue by referring to generations of Transit by years produced. -- Last edit: 2014-10-22 20:22:08
J-2 2014-10-22 19:54	Yes, but again, Ford itself said it's the fourth. Don't get me wrong, but I don't know what's wrong with the Transit, it's quite simple. The Mk.3 had one restyling. Very subtle. The Mk.4 had a more deeper one, but it was the same body (rear, sides, platform...). The new one is a Mk.V, whole new thing. Also, if Ford says it's an Mk.4, no more discussion is needed, I think the manufacturer knows more than any of us.
krq9 2014-10-22 18:47	Tuppence870 wrote The problem here is that the Mk's on those forums are not using the same system that we use here. The Mk's we use here refer to Full Model Changes (FMC's) rather than simple Facelifts. Whenever a vehicle is updated, it will go through one of these changes. Facelifts are cheaper and are mostly cosmetic changes to existing parts - the new vehicle is almost identical to the old one, but will look more modern. FMC's are more expensive, since the entire vehicle will be redesigned from scratch - the new vehicle is completely new, and shares almost nothing with its predecessor except its name, purpose and a small number of parts. It's not always that simple, though. There's a very thin line between a heavy restyling and a new model. A new model doesn't have to be designed from scratch, in fact in most cases it's related to the previous model. Some would consider the 2011 Chrysler 300 a heavy restyling, but it's officially known as the second generation. The 1994 Ford Scorpio was nothing more than a restyled first generation model, but Ford still called it the second generation. Anyway, about the Transit. IMCDB lists them as mkV, so there's that.
J-2 2014-10-20 16:41	End of discussion? Only because you say so? This is not kindergarten. This is settled when the facts are checked, not when you say it. And to really end this, I asked Ford themselves. The new gen is the fifth one. So your trusted forum is WRONG. You want me to ask Ford UK and Ford USA as well? I don't know how much proof do you need if this is not enough. Now it's over. This is a IV gen. End of discussion. EDIT: Tuppence just proved what I said. People consider the 2000 Ibiza as a Mk.3. But it's NOT. One thing is the "popular" designation, and other, the official one. Here we list the official ones. -- Last edit: 2014-10-20 16:46:02
Tuppence870 2014-10-20 16:27	The problem here is that the Mk's on those forums are not using the same system that we use here. The Mk's we use here refer to Full Model Changes (FMC's) rather than simple Facelifts. Whenever a vehicle is updated, it will go through one of these changes. Facelifts are cheaper and are mostly cosmetic changes to existing parts - the new vehicle is almost identical to the old one, but will look more modern. FMC's are more expensive, since the entire vehicle will be redesigned from scratch - the new vehicle is completely new, and shares almost nothing with its predecessor except its name, purpose and a small number of parts. -- Last edit: 2014-10-20 16:29:25
J-2 2014-10-20 13:41	No. They are all wrong. "The year 2000 saw the launch of our fourth generation, all-new Transit, thirty-five years after the original model's debut." A facelift is a facelift. It's like the 2000 Seat Ibiza, it was a heavily restyled Mk.2 gen, but many people call it a Mk.3, which is not.
J-2 2014-09-29 20:43	Yes. 140 HP 2.2-litre TDCi. It's the SuperSportVan (available aa a playable vehicle) but with the stock parts installed and stock wheels added.

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