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2017-02-16 05:44
whatever Rinspeed changed the name, its still gonna be that name he changed, he wont change it

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2017-02-16 00:17
i never wanna see burn rubber, his comment ignored

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2017-02-16 00:13
K20lover199 a écrit

Dude CALM DOWN. Take a chill pill and don't spam the caps lock.

ok k20 im calm, i just hate having warnings here from retro and rinspeed for no reasons i have no cursing or bad languages so to tell them I have 0 warnings, i just changed my last comments for better nicer words

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2017-02-16 00:05
acevidal5 a écrit

What Language theres NO Cursing, what r u talking bout No i dont have NO WARNINGS

Dude CALM DOWN. Take a chill pill and don't spam the caps lock.
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2017-02-16 00:01
Rinspeed a écrit

2nd warning for innapropriate language. Calm down.

What Language theres NO Cursing, what r u talking bout
Retro and Rinspeed i have no cursing on my comments nothing bad, why would u give me warnings
I have No warnings at all

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2017-02-16 00:01
Retr0_50s a écrit

Do you know this kind of behaviour could ban you too?,rinspeed just accept edits as long as it is related to cars he does not have time to look into evrything unless there is a warso that dosent means he really agrees with you :p who knows?,and burn rubber is not spamming he is just trying to convince you that it is not a venture so chill out

what r u talking about language theres no cursing and NO I dont have No warnings

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2017-02-15 20:03
acevidal5 a écrit

K20lover199 SAID TO IGNORE U SO THIS IS MY LAST MESSAGE AND WARNING BEFORE I TELL RINSPEED, Haha not just me U TOO AND SOME OTHERS, SO U SHUT UR freakin MOUTH OR ill tell Rinspeed to kick u out of here, U Dont KNOW NOTHING, Rinspeed DOES AND HAS MORE POWER OVER U

2nd warning for innapropriate language. Calm down.
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2017-02-15 16:30
acevidal5 a écrit

K20lover199 SAID TO IGNORE U SO THIS IS MY LAST MESSAGE AND WARNING BEFORE I TELL RINSPEED, Haha not just me U TOO AND SOME OTHERS, SO U SHUT UR freakin MOUTH OR ill tell Rinspeed to kick u out of here, U Dont KNOW NOTHING, Rinspeed DOES AND HAS MORE POWER OVER U

Do you know this kind of behaviour could ban you too?,rinspeed just accept edits as long as it is related to cars he does not have time to look into evrything unless there is a warso that dosent means he really agrees with you :p who knows?,and burn rubber is not spamming he is just trying to convince you that it is not a venture so chill out
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2017-02-15 16:01
Here is an interesting version of the one from Watch Dogs 1, note the door handles: vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/watchdogscombined/images/d/d7/Crosscountry_Series.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20140721022929
Chevrolet Venture
Chevrolet Venture

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2017-02-15 15:49
Bumpercars45 a écrit

Lets keep it civil, and focus on the car at hand please

ok im tired of Burn Rubber and his Spam Messages

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2017-02-15 15:50:38
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2017-02-15 15:49
RINSPEED Burn Rubber should not be here he still arguing of this and im also tired looking at him and his spam messages, rinspeed u r in control and U have more Power than Burn Rubber

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2017-02-16 00:26:35
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2017-02-15 15:48
acevidal5 a écrit

K20lover199 SAID TO IGNORE U SO THIS IS MY LAST MESSAGE AND WARNING BEFORE I TELL RINSPEED, Haha not just me U TOO AND SOME OTHERS, SO U SHUT UR freakin MOUTH OR ill tell Rinspeed to kick u out of here, U Dont KNOW NOTHING, Rinspeed DOES AND HAS MORE POWER OVER U

Lets keep it civil, and focus on the car at hand please
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Chevrolet Venture

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2017-02-15 15:44
Burn Rubber a écrit
If you want to get technical, Rinspeed only left it as Venture to get you to shut up.

Again, I can prove a million ways how this car isn't a Chevrolet Venture (Again, I live with these cars so know them by heart) but trying to prove a point on IGCD is pointless when somebody won't listen.

K20lover199 said to ignore SO THIS IS MY LAST MESSAGE, Haha not just me u too and some others, so BE Quiet OR ill tell Rinspeed, U Dont know anything, Rinspeed Does and he is more like the head supervisor of IGCD


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2017-02-16 00:11:53
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2017-02-15 05:44
the venture is square is not square the back is curved a bit

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2017-02-15 05:41
Retr0_50s a écrit
What about chrysler town and country?cross country sounds like it,its bumbers also have lights and the plymouth have the same grill too cant be a venture the venture is too square

look at the pics of the Venture it doesnt look square the back is curved a bit, the Chevrolet Astro is more Square, Rinspeed is the only one changed it and he knows the Crosscountry is a Venture

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2017-02-15 05:45:25
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2017-02-14 08:38
What about chrysler town and country?cross country sounds like it,its bumbers also have lights and the plymouth have the same grill too cant be a venture the venture is too square

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2017-02-13 16:34
retr0_50s a écrit

I did

its not just i hated it, its because the vehicle needs to match the real one, Crosscountry Series doesnt even look like the Dodge Caravan, people says it looks more Chevrolet Venture or Pontiac Montana both GM Vans
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2017-02-13 16:32
Rinspeed is the only one can change the name, not me or the other people, Rinspeed decided the name already,
Rinspeed u need to change the Crosscountry Series name in Watch Dogs 1 also
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2017-02-13 15:43
Burn Rubber a écrit
Tuned Compact was not a war, but okay.

Also, why has nobody mentioned Made for Game? If its this hard to choose then it seems like an option.

I did
Retr0_50s a écrit

Soo u changed the car just because u hate dodge,what kind of lame reason is that?i dont think igcd works that way,i can give you points for the chev venture but not kia sedona,and dosent crosscountry sounds like a refrence to dodge caravan?and i can show this image to evry soccer moms in the suburbs in usa and they will all says its dodge caravan even ppl who have less knowledge bout cars will say the same thing too cause it is common sense like burn rubber said,and wiki is just not the most accurate sometimes,but since we cant all agree, is just a mix match of minivans,so i either say leave it the way it is,name it whichever car to come up with this model first or mfg
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2017-02-13 13:25
Automotive Gaming a écrit
Oh my god, after the Stratum wars, the Vexter XS wars, the Brubeck Crosscountry wars, now also the ban wars!!! :(

i don't want ban but since he had clearly put a link for discord (in his profile erased) and clearly insult others like me, i can't do nothing more for him. Since the problem in january, i will not let someone insult or not respect the rules like in the past. If the members doesn't want to apply them (specifically for respect each other), there will be another ban.
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2017-02-13 13:11
Ok guys hear me out this has to stop ,the one that is "brainwashing" us acedeval why?look at the cross country at the first watch dogs nothing had changed the dodge caravan name stayed there for 3 years and no one said it was a Chevrolet we just all agreed on it as the caravan and it stayed that way you guys should know the reason he is changing it,just because he hates dodge and you guys are judging the cars from the front as it looks like a venture? Shouldn't it be the body?And since we can't all agree why not just name it whichever car that came out with this minivan design first?
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2017-02-13 10:22
w123 a écrit


Says the useless Frenchie.

so banned
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2017-02-13 09:26
Rinspeed a écrit


2nd warning for innapropriate language


Says the useless Frenchie.
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2017-02-13 09:08
w123 a écrit

Plot twist: acevidal didn't edit the name.

Here's a farewell gift for your dense, illiterate mind:



2nd warning for innapropriate language
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2017-02-13 04:50
Burn Rubber a écrit
I already did. Want to know what the poll said?
i.imgur.com/OSBDmWU.png
The poll was given to an unbiased group who had no part in this argument to get genuine answers. They picked Kia Sedona. But not the same one Achedevil was crying about. THIS Kia Sedona:


Says the guy who thought this is a Grand Caravan.

Oh, and it should be kept to Chevrolet Venture, not changed to Kia Sedona or Dodge Grand Caravan.
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2017-02-13 04:08
How about we should take a poll instead of war?
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2017-02-13 03:57
Burn Rubber a écrit
Gee, it's not like me neighbors owned a Chevrolet Venture for 4 years and I'd already know exactly what the car looks like by heart. Meanwhile I bet you've never even seen a real one.


Says the guy who can't see the difference between a Venture and a Grand Caravan
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2017-02-13 03:15
Burn Rubber a écrit
Lol how cute, you guys don't even have a real argument anymore so you're resorting to "We all hate you anyways" insults.

Im not going to drop this just because acevidal keeps editing it to the wrong car. Its not a freaking Venture no matter how many times you say it. So far nobody has really proved its something else either.

Plot twist: acevidal didn't edit the name.

Here's a farewell gift for your dense, illiterate mind:

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2017-02-12 23:44
Rinspeed a écrit

Ok, la prochaine fois, je parlerai en français. L'anglais n'est pas ma langue. Y'en a marre des gens qui critiquent alors que je ne parle pas anglais. Parlez français et on verra si vous ne faîtes pas de fautes.

Twój post jest świetnym dowodem na to, że każdy powinien porozumiewać się tutaj za pomocą języka angielskiego. Nie znam francuskiego, ale potrafię domyśleć się z kontekstu o czym piszesz. A czy ty potrafisz rozszyfrować o czym napisałem w tym poście bez używania Google Translate? Nie sądzę. Ale przynajmniej możesz poczuć się tak jak inni użytkownicy, kiedy czytają twój francuski bełkot na tej stronie.
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2017-02-12 21:40
Hakari a écrit

I don't give a damn about that. I'm done with your site anyway. I'm just wasting my time here.

PS: Git gud with your english. You can't even write a single sentence without doing miserable mistakes.

Ok, la prochaine fois, je parlerai en français. L'anglais n'est pas ma langue. Y'en a marre des gens qui critiquent alors que je ne parle pas anglais. Parlez français et on verra si vous ne faîtes pas de fautes.
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2017-02-12 21:07
Rinspeed a écrit

I had quote it to just let see the problem. And the warning is more for the innapropriate language than the gif. But as you can't talk without insult, you had also a warning.

I don't give a damn about that. I'm done with your site anyway. I'm just wasting my time here.

PS: Git gud with your english. You can't even write a single sentence without doing miserable mistakes.
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2017-02-12 20:53
Hakari a écrit

You gave him a warning for "pic spam" and you just quoted his comment with this gif included, so now we have two gifs here instead of one. You are such an idiot. Sorry to say that.

I had quote it to just let see the problem. And the warning is more for the innapropriate language than the gif. But as you can't talk without insult, you had also a warning.
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2017-02-12 20:36
You can tell it's either based on either a Ford or Chrysler product based on the track for the sliding doors being hidden under the quarter glass. The GM vans still had the track in the side of the body like the old days.
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2017-02-12 19:57
Rinspeed a écrit

First warning for you for innapropriate language and pic spam.

And i don't have opinion since i'm not a specialist for american cars. These aren't the cars i like.

You gave him a warning for "pic spam" and you just quoted his comment with this gif included, so now we have two gifs here instead of one. You are such an idiot. Sorry to say that.
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2017-02-12 19:38
w123 a écrit




I can give you more than two measly reasons why it's not a Grand Caravan:

1. Front is directly taken from Chevy Venture

2. Body is directly taken from Ford Windstar

3. Crosscountry is a direct spoof to Venture

4. Only the rear is from a Grand Caravan, mainly the 2008 model year.

Now you better shut up and go back pleasuring yourself with shitty JDM cars since most of IGCD members hate your guts and all the drama you ensue because you feel like you're always right even you're totally wrong.



Instead of agreeing with that car illiterate Burn Rubber, you should have your own opinion on what this car is. Now tell us, in your opinion, what is this based on?

First warning for you for innapropriate language and pic spam.

And i don't have opinion since i'm not a specialist for american cars. These aren't the cars i like.
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2017-02-12 18:25
Burn Rubber a écrit
Alright, Time to TRY to make you all snap out of this whiny kid's trance.

The car isn't a Chevrolet Venture. It's not a Pontiac Montana. It's not a Ford Windstar. It's a damn Grand Caravan.

Why you ask? Let's find out.
1. The name. CrossCountry Series is CLEARLY a parody of Grand Caravan. Just to prove my point:

AKA, going Cross Country.

2. The car minus the front end. No matter how much you want to deny it, 80% of this car's body is a Grand Caravan. The shape of the body is taken from the 2003 Model where the parts, such as taillights, are taken from the 2008 Model

Oh and that front end that's allegedyly 4 different GM vans? It also has resembalance to the Grand Caravan.

Sorry you stubborn little pain in my ass, But you can hate the Grand Caravan all you want. Doesn't make this car not one.

Unless you can provide a arguement as detailed and solid as this for your other GM vans, I think we've got a match.




I can give you more than two measly reasons why it's not a Grand Caravan:

1. Front is directly taken from Chevy Venture

2. Body is directly taken from Ford Windstar

3. Crosscountry is a direct spoof to Venture

4. Only the rear is from a Grand Caravan, mainly the 2008 model year.

Now you better shut up and go back pleasuring yourself with shitty JDM cars since most of IGCD members hate your guts and all the drama you ensue because you feel like you're always right even you're totally wrong.

Rinspeed a écrit

i'm tired to change it 10 times. So i will not change it until there is a majority.


Instead of agreeing with that car illiterate Burn Rubber, you should have your own opinion on what this car is. Now tell us, in your opinion, what is this based on?

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2017-02-12 18:17
Don't listen to Burn Rubber, he's being stubborn. It is a Venture, not a Grand Caravan. He's brainwashing US by asking for the Venture edits to be denied and is trying to shove his opinion down our throats.

Rinspeed, you have more power than him, please change it to Venture.
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2017-02-12 18:09
Rinspeed majority it is a Chevrolet Venture images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/Automotive/Entity/Chrome/v2/7974._CB192204251_.jpg
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2017-02-12 18:06
Rinspeed a écrit

i'm tired to change it 10 times. So i will not change it until there is a majority.

Rinspeed please the Crosscountry Series doesnt even look like a Dodge Caravan by the Front and even the sides. it is a majority

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2017-02-12 18:05
anyone Lets CONFESS who says its Chevrolet Venture and Pontiac Montana Lets let IGCD know its Chevrolet Venture not a Dodge CARAVAN, try and convince Rinspeed the name to Chevrolet Venture that its right not Even a Dodge Caravan

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2017-02-12 17:58
acevidal5 a écrit
ITS ALSO MORE LIKE THE OLDER HONDA ODYYSEY WITH NO SLIDING DOORS

i'm tired to change it 10 times. So i will not change it until there is a majority.
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2017-02-12 17:50
ITS ALSO MORE LIKE THE OLDER HONDA ODYYSEY WITH NO SLIDING DOORS
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2017-02-12 17:47
who the heck is not changing the name i redited, THE FRONT AND SIDE DOESNT EVEN LOOK LIKE A FREAKIN DODGE CARAVAN LIKE I SAID ITS MORE LIKE A CHEVROLET VENTURE OR PONTIAC MONTANA

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2017-02-12 17:45
Burn Rubber a écrit
Alright, Time to TRY to make you all snap out of this whiny kid's trance.

The car isn't a Chevrolet Venture. It's not a Pontiac Montana. It's not a Ford Windstar. It's a damn Grand Caravan.

Why you ask? Let's find out.
1. The name. CrossCountry Series is CLEARLY a parody of Grand Caravan. Just to prove my point:

AKA, going Cross Country.

2. The car minus the front end. No matter how much you want to deny it, 80% of this car's body is a Grand Caravan. The shape of the body is taken from the 2003 Model where the parts, such as taillights, are taken from the 2008 Model

Oh and that front end that's allegedyly 4 different GM vans? It also has resembalance to the Grand Caravan.

Sorry you stubborn little pain in my ass, But you can hate the Grand Caravan all you want. Doesn't make this car not one.

Unless you can provide a arguement as detailed and solid as this for your other GM vans, I think we've got a match.

Its NOT DODGE FREAKIN CARAVAN
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2017-02-12 10:37
Couldn't be a venture, only things that match between the two are the roof racks and front window shape.

The venture's rear bumper doesn't stick out as much as this, hell, the whole rear isn't the right shape.
Has Winstar styling queues but ultimately I would say Grand Caravan, rims are almost a perfect match..

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2017-02-12 07:55
Burn Rubber a écrit
Why you ask? Let's find out.
1. The name. CrossCountry Series is CLEARLY a parody of Grand Caravan. Just to prove my point:

Really? I thought it was a reference to Town & Country, the nearly identical twin of the Caravan.
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2017-02-12 05:07
Burn Rubber,

watchdogs.wikia.com/wiki/Crosscountry_Series

Clearly, this van has very little resemblance if not NO resemblance to a Grand Caravan, let alone the 2008 model. This van is clearly based on the GM Minvans Chevrolet Venture, Pontiac Monatana, Oldsmobile Silhouette, and Opel Sintra, but mostly the Venture. As for the Tailights, they are NOT Chrysler/Dodge based. They are from the third generation GM U-body's, Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac Montana SV6, Saturn Relay, and the Buick Terraza.

So in conclusion, no matter how much you try to brainwash and make us change our minds, I will not change mine. This minivan is clearly, without a doubt a 1997-2000 Chevrolet Venture.

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2017-02-12 03:37
Burn Rubber a écrit

This is aimed at everyone, Not just him.

Yes true,but that dosent stop him from editing it back to venture
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2017-02-12 03:12
Burn Rubber a écrit
Alright, Time to TRY to make you all snap out of this whiny kid's trance.

The car isn't a Chevrolet Venture. It's not a Pontiac Montana. It's not a Ford Windstar. It's a damn Grand Caravan.

Why you ask? Let's find out.
1. The name. CrossCountry Series is CLEARLY a parody of Grand Caravan. Just to prove my point:

AKA, going Cross Country.

2. The car minus the front end. No matter how much you want to deny it, 80% of this car's body is a Grand Caravan. The shape of the body is taken from the 2003 Model where the parts, such as taillights, are taken from the 2008 Model

Oh and that front end that's allegedyly 4 different GM vans? It also has resembalance to the Grand Caravan.

Sorry you stubborn little pain in my ass, But you can hate the Grand Caravan all you want. Doesn't make this car not one.

Unless you can provide a arguement as detailed and solid as this for your other GM vans, I think we've got a match.

I dont think nothing going to change his mind no matter how much we explain it

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2017-02-12 02:13
Y is everyone so mean Its a Chevrolet Venture not a Dodge Freakin Caravan

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