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BMW M5 'Ascent 235' [E39]

BMW M5 'Ascent 235' [E39] in Midnight Club: Street Racing, Racing, 2000

Class: Cars, Sedan — Origin: DE

Playable Vehicle Unlockable Vehicle Playable and unlockable vehicle

How to obtain it : Beat Emily Morton's first head to head race

BMW M5 'Ascent 235' [E39]

Picture provided by : RacingFreak

BMW M5 'Ascent 235' [E39]

Picture provided by : tupacserbia

Comments about this vehicle

AuthorMessage

carcrasher88 US (20)

2014-11-14 00:26

This is definitely NOT an RSX. The nose looks like a 2001-02 Acura TL with slightly altered headlights and the rear looks like an E46 3-Series.

Plus, it's a sedan and not a coupe.

Burn Rubber US (346)

2015-08-15 06:56

The RSX is a coupe. Not a sedan. More of a Mercedes or Crystler. But I don't know what.

sajmon14 PL (232)

2016-03-18 13:32

basename suggests it's a Mercedes

AutoTracker US (212)

2016-03-30 00:32

This can not be a 2005 RL. This game came out in 2000....

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-03-30 00:50

Wow. Epic fail there. :/

This car has always reminded me of a Mercedes.

sajmon14 PL (232)

2016-03-30 08:13

Someone who changed that is really ill

GamerFIB7590 ID (210)

2016-03-30 10:27

For me, this DEFINITELY looks like 2000 Honda City

sajmon14 PL (232)

2016-03-30 11:29

GamerFIB7590 wrote For me, this DEFINITELY looks like 2000 Honda City


:/

Gamer DE (73)

2016-03-30 11:57

Honda City is not sold in the US...

Where are the tail lights from? E46?

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-03-30 13:43

This one, before being listed as an RL, was listed as an RSX, which is even worse.

Tail lights remind me of the E46, but I can't find a more matching car than the KB1 RL itself. The fact it is called Mercedes inside the data doesn't help either. I can only think of a CLS because of the roundish roof but:
1) The CLS is also newer than the game
2) Apart the roof the rest of the car is different and the RL matches more

I've just added "Ascent" brand name to it though, which was missing.

sajmon14 PL (232)

2016-03-30 13:54

one of the variants of the car looks like Merc but the car names sound like BMW trim levels

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-03-30 16:40

It may look like a RL but it is newer that this game. So it cannot be listed as one. So far I'm lost with this one. :/

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-03-30 18:14

There are other cases of cars newer than the game itself, don't remember which ones tho.

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-12 03:57

"2005 Acura RL"

"Midnight Club: Street Racing, Racing, 2000"

(Insert groan noise and edited to unknown comment here)

OuIGCD (23)

2016-09-12 16:44

Burn Rubber wrote "2005 Acura RL"

"Midnight Club: Street Racing, Racing, 2000"

(Insert groan noise and edited to unknown comment here)

Just blame Rockstar, for designing a car that is newer than the game release date. :p

sajmon14 PL (232)

2016-09-12 20:09

OuIGCD wrote
Just blame Rockstar, for designing a car that is newer than the game release date. :p


Angel Studios* :p

Razor440 KP (3)

2016-09-12 20:48

Maybe that's why it says Top Secret on the side...which is pretty freaking ironic if you think about it.

AutoTracker US (212)

2016-09-12 20:55

Mercedes-Benz S-Class W220? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_S-Class#/media/File%3AMercedes-Benz_S430_W220.jpg

Razor440 KP (3)

2016-09-12 21:15

Zordid wrote Chrysler Sebring JS?


That car came out seven years after the game came out.

The Acura RL came out five years after the game came out.

In other words, I don't think that makes any sense that you think that this is a car from a farther future than the car we already said it was, let alone a Chrysler Sebring!

GamerFIB7590 wrote For me, this DEFINITELY looks like 2000 Honda City


Nah.

Gamer wrote Honda City is not sold in the US...


AutoTracker wrote Mercedes-Benz S-Class W220? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_S-Class#/media/File%3AMercedes-Benz_S430_W220.jpg


I think this is as good as it gets, as Grand Theft Audio would have said.

-- Last edit: 2016-09-12 21:19:28

AutoTracker US (212)

2016-09-12 21:47

Razor440 wrote
I think this is as good as it gets, as Grand Theft Audio would have said.


Thanks a lot, now I'm having GT3 flashbacks and the song is stuck in my head now. :lol:

-- Last edit: 2016-09-12 21:49:35

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-12 22:32

Edit was denied...

Are you freakng serious? Edited to unknown again.

OuIGCD (23)

2016-09-13 06:29

sajmon14 wrote

Angel Studios* :p

Yep, also blame Angel Studios as well. :lol:

Aginnon CZ (4)

2016-09-13 15:17

Change to 1999, PLEASE!

Renz203 PH (12)

2016-09-13 16:21

GamerFIB7590 wrote For me, this DEFINITELY looks like 2000 Honda City

Are you imagining an Asian car with an US license plate?

-- Last edit: 2016-09-13 16:22:46

Renz203 PH (12)

2016-09-13 16:23

Aginnon wrote Change to 1999, PLEASE!

Why don't you edit it?

Aginnon CZ (4)

2016-09-13 16:36

I can't.

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-13 16:58

The edit it still pending. Lets just hope this time it gets accepted and not rejected again for no reason...

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-13 20:09

What are you trying to edit? This looks like a 2005 Acura RL.
Do you think it looks like something else? Prove it.
Until that, it will stay as how it is now.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/2005_Acura_RL_--_NHTSA.jpg
st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2013/02/2005-Acura-RL-left-rear-quarter-view.jpg

-- Last edit: 2016-09-13 22:06:42

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-13 23:35

Automotive Gaming wrote What are you trying to edit? This looks like a 2005 Acura RL.
Do you think it looks like something else? Prove it.
Until that, it will stay as how it is now.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/2005_Acura_RL_--_NHTSA.jpg
st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2013/02/2005-Acura-RL-left-rear-quarter-view.jpg

You do realize this game was made 5 years before the RL released right?

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-13 23:39

And you do realize you don't need to be time-nazi if they look the same?

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-13 23:43

Automotive Gaming wrote And you do realize you don't need to be time-nazi if they look the same?

Listing a car from a 2000 game as 2005 is absurd. Time-nazi or not, there is no way this car is based from a 2005 Acura. Putting it as that is basically putting in inaccurate info.

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-13 23:46

Please shut up! The design is similar, who cares if the car has been made before or after the game in real life, we list fake cars as similar counterparts here on IGCD. You can't be time-nazi with a stupid fake car. We must list it as MFG only if this car is similar to nothing else on earth, but since it has RL resemblances we'll keep it as that.
You don't agree? Find a better matching car.

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-13 23:49

I never said list it as Made for Game. I said list it as unknown until someone finds a real match.

If you have browsed the ancient depths of IGCD like me, you'd see there's other cases of time inaccuracy.

We cannot and will not keep this as a 2005 RL just because "oh it looks like one even though it physically can't be".

If anything this car looks like a rounded 1999 RL that actually existed when the game was made.

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-13 23:52

And since a similar match has been found (2005 Acura RL) we'll list it as that until someone will say there's a better matching cars out there!

We list a car as unknown if we have no damn clues about it! Zero! Null! Nothing! Nada!

-- Last edit: 2016-09-13 23:53:19

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-13 23:55

Automotive Gaming wrote And since a similar match has been found (2005 Acura RL) we'll list it as that until someone will say there's a better matching cars out there!

We list a car as unknown if we have no damn clues about it! Zero! Null! Nothing! Nada!


1999 Acura RL. Take some bad 3D modeling and there you go.

And really we have "no damn clues" since the car was made 5 years later...

chesty KY (63)

2016-09-13 23:56

Burn Rubber wrote I never said list it as Made for Game. I said list it as unknown until someone finds a real match.

If you have browsed the ancient depths of IGCD like me, you'd see there's other cases of time inaccuracy.

We cannot and will not keep this as a 2005 RL just because "oh it looks like one even though it physically can't be".

If anything this car looks like a rounded 1999 RL that actually existed when the game was made.

it would make more sence that

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-13 23:59

Burn Rubber wrote
momentcar.com/images/acura-rl-1999-6.jpg


The 1999 design is way more squared otherwise I would have no reason in seeing it listed as a 2005 instead of a 1999 don't you think so? Yes you don't think so because you have to annoy the hell outta other people instead of doing something constructive during your day.

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-14 00:01

I'm not the one annoying the hell out of someone...

The game was made almost 17 years ago... The 3D Models are not going to be Forza level quality...

If you look at the game, most of the vehicles are to some extent bulbous or round. Some that aren't are the Jones models. But they were on purpose due to the pickup truck appearance.

-- Last edit: 2016-09-14 00:02:22

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-14 00:03

The game is old but you can clearly see the roundness of the whole design, bumpers, roof, headlights etc. and a 1999 is boxier compared to it.

-- Last edit: 2016-09-14 00:03:51

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-14 00:05

So you expect an exact carbon copy of the car? RockStar didn't do that until MCII.

If you look at the taillights, they have a similar pattern to the 1999 that the 2005 lacks.

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-14 00:08

To be exact the tail lights resembles BMW E46 ones!
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/BMW_E46_rear_20080328.jpg

1999 RL ones are so large while Ascent 235 ones are so damn narrow, was yours even a comparison?
I have no clue of why I should keep discussing
i.ytimg.com/vi/AqFMxWToiso/hqdefault.jpg

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-14 00:12

So you're saying its got BMW taillights? Supporting your 2005 arguement how?

And BTW, this was my reference.

If anything it's just a rounded RL with BMW read lights.

If you look, the grill, headlights, and fog lights are also 1999 RL ones...

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-14 00:19

Shame on me for loosing time over this:
i.imgur.com/170u7xe.jpg
i.imgur.com/EXEG8K7.jpg

-- Last edit: 2016-09-14 00:28:55

Hakari PL (20)

2016-09-14 00:39

Automotive Gaming wrote Please shut up! The design is similar, who cares if the car has been made before or after the game in real life, we list fake cars as similar counterparts here on IGCD. You can't be time-nazi with a stupid fake car. We must list it as MFG only if this car is similar to nothing else on earth, but since it has RL resemblances we'll keep it as that.
You don't agree? Find a better matching car.

What the hell mate? I mean, seriously: How this car can be based on something that didn't existed in the year it was released? Your statement breaks the rules of logical thinking. Did developers have a time machine? I know it looks similar to more modern vehicles but its design is nothing new compared to real life cars from this time. They made a fictional car and then, a few years later someone released a similar looking car in real life. It doesn't mean that a car from 2000 is based on car from 2005. It cannot be.

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-14 00:52

Throw out a car that matches more than a 2005 RL. No one can deny that whoever modeled this Ascent accidentally made something similar to a car which after 5 years entered production. Coincidences can happen. Or is there a rule about coincidences on IGCD? Remember this is a fake car and no one can know if the creators made it relating to a real car or making one on their own.

-- Last edit: 2016-09-14 00:56:06

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-14 00:57

(Insert facedesk meme here)

Hell, I've seen silly arguments on here before but seriously, this one is absolutely stupid...

-- Last edit: 2016-09-14 00:59:40

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-14 01:01

BR why you still on this? Go find other time-nazi entries

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-14 01:02

Just so you can make impossible guesses and dumb comments there? No thanks.

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-14 01:04

Yes please you are great in annoying the hell out of people without actually even having the ability and the knowledge to make car designs comparisons.

AutoTracker US (212)

2016-09-14 01:12

This has DEFINITELY become the REAL Stratum Wars 2.0...

Hakari PL (20)

2016-09-14 01:14

Automotive Gaming wrote Throw out a car that matches more than a 2005 RL. No one can deny that whoever modeled this Ascent accidentally made something similar to a car which after 5 years entered production. Coincidences can happen. Or is there a rule about coincidences on IGCD? Remember this is a fake car and no one can know if the creators made it relating to a real car or making one on their own.

We are listing fictional cars here as their progenitors from real life. A 2005 car can't be a progenitor of a 2000 car because it didn't existed in the year the in-game model was made. If this car doesn't look like anything from year 2000 or earlier - then it's a pure "Made for Game" vehicle. Any questions?

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-14 01:20

There aren't such rules on IGCD because exceptions might exist. If a car from a '00 game appears similar to a '05 produced vehicle what can you do? Suggest a better matching car!

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-14 01:22

There are no exceptions to a time paradox...

Anyway, 1999 Acura RL. Better match that existed in that time? Check.

Automotive Gaming IT (32)

2016-09-14 01:24

Better list it as MFG instead of listing it as a 1999 RL.

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-14 01:25

Lets actually say something on topic...

The chassis code needs to be removed from the listing.

-- Last edit: 2016-09-14 01:25:50

SAJMON14 PL (232)

2016-09-14 01:28

Now I think the Ascents are just a random mixtures of European cars especially since this is a RHD car that appears in London races. I can see bits of Merc and BMW but I can't really tell what this is.

speedfreak975 LB (211)

2016-09-14 12:17

considering it looks like a car that wasnt even made yet shouldn't it even be "Made for game"

Razor440 KP (3)

2016-09-27 04:16

AutoTracker wrote Mercedes-Benz S-Class W220? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_S-Class#/media/File%3AMercedes-Benz_S430_W220.jpg


I get a feeling...

I think this is as good as it gets. Anyone agree?

Burn Rubber US (346)

2016-09-27 04:20

The car pictures in that link is an 01-06. It's still too new for the game...

K20lover199 (0)

2017-02-07 20:49

I'm leaning towards an E39 5 series. But it does have some cues from a JDM sedan, presumably a Toyota or Lexus sedan, either an Aristo, Celsior, or an Altezza.

CarCrazedAlex586 (5)

2017-03-05 18:54

So the basename hints to a Mercedes, huh? Well, Mercedes S Class it is!

Aginnon CZ (4)

2017-06-12 18:09

I'll edit that to Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse.

CarCrazedAlex586 (5)

2017-06-12 18:31

Seriously, Ascent 235 wars were pointless. I don't know what's more pointless, Vexter XS wars (f**king cyberbullies insulting me and shoving a Saturn Ion down my throat) or Ascent wars.

Aginnon CZ (4)

2017-06-12 19:28

It was denied again. Can someone please edit it to Mercedes Benz S-Klasse and get it over with? Cripes.

K20lover199 (0)

2017-06-12 19:37

S-Class? It should be an M5 E39.

-- Last edit: 2017-06-12 19:37:41

Aginnon CZ (4)

2017-06-12 19:44

K20lover199 wrote S-Class? It should be an M5 E39.

I'm with you on this.

Adrigaaas90 ES (161)

2017-06-12 23:14

Chrysler 300M for me

CarCrazedAlex586 (5)

2017-06-13 00:32

I'm with Mercedes, it's like Angel didn't care about making cars look accurate to their real-life counterparts.

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