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Burn Rubber wrote Okay... To be honest im tired of this argument. But it has to be classed as custom. Although I'd feel better if I had one of those morphing pictures I've seen here before. (Transitions from one pic to another in a morph-y way?) I don't have the morphing software installed anymore But anyway, I will be listing this as a wagon body style for now, since that is how it is displayed in the game. I think JFK made a good point on why custom wouldn't be quite right for this vehicle. | ||
These images should show what I'm talking about. You see that thick line over the rear wheel? That is the unique and often overlooked shoulder line of the Stratum. The way it becomes wider over the rear wheel is similar to how some cars like the Audi quattro or Lancia Delta use their shoulder-line design to emphasise their strong traction and an aggressive stance. Very few cars have this feature, but one that does is the Nissan Skyline R32 Sedan, which has the exact same shape and position as the one seen on the Stratum. You may also notice that the A, B and C Pillar (ignoring the Stratum's wagon D-Pillar) are identical between the Skyline and Stratum. I would like to change this back to the Nissan Skyline R32 Sedan, as it rightfully should be. Do I have your permission? | ||
Burn Rubber wrote Just don't call it a R32 and all will go well. But it is an R32. It's an R32 Sedan in every sense aside from the wagon body style. Take away that extra section of the cabin, and you have a perfect copy of that R32 Sedan. No, there is no R32 wagon in reality. I'm not saying there is, or there ever will be. But this car is still built upon that R32 Sedan. It's not a Honda. It's not a Subaru. It's a Nissan, but with one notable difference. May I remind you of this car in Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It shares all of the features of the Volkswagen L1 Concept car, but for a long time it was considered a Made For Game due to its cab-forward body style, which was the only difference to the more conventional body of the VW. Later, a developer who worked on that game confirmed it to be a VW L1 and it has stayed that way ever since. This is a very similar case, and I'm sure if a developer was here, they'd back me up on this. The Stratum has very unique body sides. It's not immediately obvious from the screenshots above, but if you look at this car in-game, you'll find massive shoulder-lines over the wheel arches, which was unlike anything I'd ever seen... until I discovered the 4-door R32 Sedan. No other car has those exaggerated shoulders, but the R32 Sedan does. This is an R32 Sedan that the developer has modified through their own creative freedom to have a wagon rear. I can't stress that enough, but as long as you still have the mindset that the wagon elements are the be-all and end-all, this car will never see a correct identification. -- Last edit: 2015-10-15 23:55:46 | ||
Looks like it's been changed back, and it's editable again. | ||
As far as I know, modding is impossible on consoles without hacking the system itself and risking a ban from online services. It's one of the few things I like more about PC gaming, but my current laptop would struggle to run GTA V (although my desktop back home would be more than capable) and I'm not sure if it's worth buying the same game again for the sake of a few new vehicles and missions. | ||
As a PS3 user, it hurts me that the Faction I've always wanted is finally in the game but I don't have access to it. I guess it's time to finish off my garage with the cars available and pack away GTA Online forever. | ||
Exactly, but we all know how hard it used to be to get anything changed around here. I thought that since Rinspeed still has to approve every change that gets made, we wouldn't need measures like this. Most of us know what this car is supposed to be and have been arguing for it since 2008, but now it would take an act of god for this car to be listed correctly. | ||
Well that is very disappointing. One user's disagreement with an easily provable solution (which I was prepared to pursue) and now Tycek has fulfilled his Made For Game fantasies yet again and everything is worse than before. Good job everyone. | ||
Racedriver43 wrote So should I just set it as the Skyline R32 GTS-t? I already put the request through to list it as a Skyline [R32] Sedan. If you know a more accurate designation, you can add that later if you want. | ||
This car is not licensed and never will be. Rockstar is allowed to do whatever they please when making cars for their game. In this case, it is perfectly clear that they took the existing Skyline R32 Sedan and added a wagon rear to it, because that's what they wanted to do. The Honda was never on the table and the Subaru only lends its taillights. This is a fictional game depicting fictional vehicles, and Rockstar is allowed to change whatever they please. We are here to find the most accurate identification of the vehicles they give us. They are not identical to real models, and a small mismatched area should not be enough to derail an otherwise perfect identification. | ||
Here's 5 minutes of Photoshop: I've sent an edit request through to list this and the GTA IV version as a Nissan Skyline [R32] Sedan (since that is the base car), but with class set to wagon. -- Last edit: 2015-10-14 23:41:26 | ||
It's more than just the front. Aside from the wagon rear, it is 100% Skyline. | ||
Burn Rubber wrote No. Custom Made is for licensed vehicles built without a base car. Anything else is just a customization. Which is not allowed. No I'm not talking about "Custom Made", I'm talking about "Class: Cars, Custom". Cars such as this Fiat Marea that are just ordinary cars that have been modified in reality, then put into a game in that form. The Subaru influence is very minor, but more significant than the Honda. However, if you study the sides of the car and how the body is shaped around the wheel arches, you can see that it bears a very strong resemblance to the Skyline R32 4dr. Even if you don't buy the custom R32 classification, you've got to admit that the Stratum is still heavily based in this sedan. -- Last edit: 2015-10-14 22:02:55 | ||
Burn Rubber wrote Okay Im done with this "Someone built it!" Shit. If they made it, It's a customization! It's not a legal model. It has NO resemblance to the Stagea, Or R32. There were 500 official Sileighty's. meaning it can be listed on here. The is no legal R32 Wagon. Ergo, Not listed. You do know this site has an actual vehicle class on IGCD called "Custom", right? This is exactly why that exists, and honsestly very few people have ever advocated to make this car an Accord, even in GTA IV: www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=12519 It's almost identical to the custom Skyline posted earlier in this thread. After a bit of research, I've concluded that that car is in fact built upon an R32 4-door, so should be listed as such. -- Last edit: 2015-10-14 01:49:08 | ||
Subaru Impreza? | ||
I believe it's actually built on an Enzo chassis | ||
This is almost identical to the DAF LF listed here: www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=57796 | ||
It's a very poorly drawn Aston Martin Vantage | ||
All LM600's should have the full name: Marcos Mantara LM600 | ||
The racing version of the Project 7/12 concept was known as the Speed 12. | ||
In the 1999 GT1 championship, these cars were known as the Chrysler Viper GTS-R | ||
Similarly, this is not a road-going S281, but the racing Saleen Mustang RRR -- Last edit: 2015-09-29 01:13:12 | ||
This can't be a C12-R since that was introduced in 2001 and this is a 1999 game. At this time, Callaway was racing the Callaway Corvette LM, which this bears a closer resemblance to. | ||
The 1977 Mini did not have the Austin name attached, but if this is meant to be Mr Bean's Mini, it should be listed as a 1977 Mini 1000. | ||
The Mini in 1984 did not have the Austin name attached, and was certainly not a sedan. | ||
The Mini in 1984 did not have the Austin name attached, and was certainly not a sedan. | ||
Uses textures from this www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=42687 | ||
Definitely an Econoline | ||
Same as this with a few changes (like the turret) www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=69793 -- Last edit: 2015-09-12 00:09:13 | ||
Well I know everybody dies eventually - that's just part of human biology... or was that meant to be a death threat? | ||
I'm not sure you could really say this is double-decked. To me, it's just a VW Typ 2 with a comically huge roof box. | ||
It's a promotional shot from before the game's release, so I doubt the uploader can do that. However, here's a better shot of the front, clearly showing Rolls Royce features www.hardcoregamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Mad-Max-Magnum-Opus.jpg | ||
1968 Dodge Dart? | ||
Obviously not an XC90, its a variant of the Corolla seen here www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=78644 | ||
And this scene takes place in Bangkok, Thailand, so the Japanese connection isn't necessarily present. | ||
Burn Rubber wrote Seriously? It got changed to Cherokee again? I'm putting it to Made for Game and I expect it to stay there. I actually sent the request through before that discussion, but if you're going to make changes, at least have the courtesy to change it for all 3 versions of the car (Carbon, Most Wanted, Undercover) and don't leave them identified differently. | ||
I think the side profile is also fairly similar to the Jeep (although the section that runs past the doors is inverted). But anyway, you should all probably work from the Most Wanted version of the car, since it has better images from more angles: www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=47246 Another interesting suggestion I've seen is the GMC Envoy, which has similar headlights, grille size and side-skirt details. -- Last edit: 2015-08-30 00:20:37 | ||
But my point is it's 0% identical. Nothing is a match. Absolutely nothing. If there was any part of this vehicle that had even a hint of MDX, I might agree with you, but this car is just totally different in every way. I know how unlicensed cars work, I know that cars are "stylised" to avoid legal conflicts, but this car has so little in common with the Acura, that I see no evidence that it is based upon one and I can't understand how anybody could think differently. -- Last edit: 2015-08-30 00:08:21 | ||
Why the hell does this keep getting changed back to an MDX? As I've painstakingly explained multiple times across multiple games (with the majority of my work deleted by hackers, trollers or maybe an overzealous admin), this vehicle does not have one single feature in common with an MDX, yet it has headlights, body shape and other features that are very similar to a Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ). Don't believe me? Look here. -- Last edit: 2015-08-29 23:32:59 | ||
Coil is obviously Tesla, since a Tesla Coil is a real scientific instrument. | ||
Corvette C6 ? | ||
Like I said, the body (below the windows) is actually still very much a Bricklin. Since the car bears resemblance to only one real vehicle, it should be an easy identification. Made for Game is usually only reserved for completely fictional vehicles. -- Last edit: 2015-08-25 21:27:28 | ||
Really not sure how this one remains as a Made For Game when it is one of the most faithful cars in this game to its movie counterpart... | ||
Should really be listed as the Bricklin, since it has the nose, gullwing doors and side details, while the remainder is unidentifiable (giving it a majority of Bricklin). Especially since this would be the only Bricklin on our site. -- Last edit: 2015-08-25 21:15:48 | ||
I suppose things aren't so bad now we have the Edit button, but there was a time when it was impossible to get a Made For Game changed even if a perfect match was identified, simply because the disagreement between users was seen as proof for a car being fictional. Thankfully that period is over, but comments like yours still give me nightmares... | ||
I'd say it has a strong Bricklin influence, but with a very simplistic cabin area. | ||
That's a bit of an unfair assessment. Just because no decision has been made doesn't mean that this car is a work of fiction, especially when the majority of cars in this game are based upon real vehicles. Why would this boring sedan be the exception to the rule? Initially, the front end led me to think this might be a Rover 200 (SD3), but having carefully looked at the vehicle (including other views on the wiki), believe it is based upon the Nissan Bluebird T12. | ||
Audi 80 (B2)? | ||
Suzuki Wagon? | ||
This page is for the police car on the right |