1951 GM LeSabre

	Surname: Midnight Hauler Class: Proto / Concept Origin: USA Playable and unlockable vehicle :

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Black Bart 2014-01-17 01:37	Cholitbunny, you need to calm down and stop being so arrogant. ChoclitBunny wrote I admit I get impatient if vehicles stay "unknown" for too long, but I am always correct and very clear in my explanations and put a lot of energy in trying to identify game vehicles... mind you that quite a few cars have been identified thanks to my efforts! Do you really think nobody else here on this site helps identifies vehicles here? Are we suppose to feel sorry for you for your energy? Look you do help the site a lot by helping what vehicles are what. Now I'm telling you again; let other users here have opinions of their own and you are not the only one on the site. Also don't make you complaints sound so dramatic; "very clear in my explanations and put a lot of energy in trying to identify game vehicles" - you sound ridiculous. -- Last edit: 2014-01-17 01:38:51
ChoclitBunny 2014-01-17 01:12	@ Tuppence870 : 1. If both headlights are in the centre, it can't be a Mercury Eight. 2. It is my personal opinion that your drawings don't clear things up. It would be better if someone provided a picture of the front of the MH and a picture of the rear... that would make identification a lot easier and save you a lot of work. 3. Like I said before, the front of the MH is a riddle to me, in all the rest of the car I see a Tucker. I still think one dot is the right headlight, the other is the center of the nose, and the left headlight is missing. @ PikesPeak : Why should I follow the herd and agree on Mercury Eight if I see a Tucker in this MH...? @ ItsaUserName : I CERTAINLY DON'T need a lesson in manners... who do you think you are...?!!! We are here on IGCD to identify vehicles, and not to insult on eachother! I admit I get impatient if vehicles stay "unknown" for too long, but I am always correct and very clear in my explanations and put a lot of energy in trying to identify game vehicles... mind you that quite a few cars have been identified thanks to my efforts!
ItsaUserName 2014-01-16 12:55	ChoclitBunny wrote The whole body contour and design details of the MH indicate a Tucker... it's just the front of this MH that I cannot figure out... it's a mess, the left headlight is missing. What's left are this stupid round thing in the center of the nose (what the **** is it, anyway...?) and the right headlight, but it's the Tucker's front alright. 1. This MH is a Tucker. Period. 2. This MH is ugly, because it is a Tucker. Period. 3. A Mercury Eight is beautiful. Period. 4. This MH is not a Mercury Eight. Period. It's actually quite simple. Now admin please correct this MH's identify. Looks like you need a lesson in manners AND evidence.
PikesPeak 2014-01-16 07:07	Alot of people in this page agrees with Merc Eight....
Tuppence870 2014-01-16 02:32	ChoclitBunny wrote The whole body contour and design details of the MH indicate a Tucker... it's just the front of this MH that I cannot figure out... it's a mess, the left headlight is missing. What's left are this stupid round thing in the center of the nose (what the **** is it, anyway...?) and the right headlight, but it's the Tucker's front alright. Thanks for completely ignoring my post on simple perspective. If you can't be bothered to read it (or at least look at the damned pictures!), then I'll cut it short - it is physically impossible for the MH to have a right headlight + central headlight. The only possible explanation is that both headlights are in the centre.
Black Bart 2014-01-16 02:08	No, I'm leaving it as a Mercury Eight. The pictures provided by Tuppence870 show quite enough proof.
ChoclitBunny 2014-01-16 01:28	The whole body contour and design details of the MH indicate a Tucker... it's just the front of this MH that I cannot figure out... it's a mess, the left headlight is missing. What's left are this stupid round thing in the center of the nose (what the **** is it, anyway...?) and the right headlight, but it's the Tucker's front alright. 1. This MH is a Tucker. Period. 2. This MH is ugly, because it is a Tucker. Period. 3. A Mercury Eight is beautiful. Period. 4. This MH is not a Mercury Eight. Period. It's actually quite simple. Now admin please correct this MH's identify.
Desscythe17 2014-01-15 08:18	I actually think it still is a Mercury Eight.
Tuppence870 2014-01-15 03:46	I quote: ChoclitBunny wrote 1948 Tucker Torpedo: www.carstyling.ru/resources/classic/1948_Tucker_chassis_1010.jpg (Take a close look, especially the front styling...) ChoclitBunny wrote This Midnight Hauler has this round thing in the center of the front, so it's a Tucker Torpedo, not a Mercury Eight. You clearly stated that the central headlight makes this a Tucker on two occassions, while you have commented on no other aspects of the vehicle. If you're trying to suggest that the car has only right and central headlights, then you need a lesson in perspective: The car you're describing is shown at the top. If the headlights shown are at the centre and right, then the bumper has a single angle in its centre, drawing the feature lines shown above. The result is an asymmetrical car or possibly a genetic mutation (and certainly not a Tucker). The car I believe this to be is shown below. It has an additional surface at the front of the car that is hidden from view. This allows the car to have a symmetrical shape and puts both headlights in the centre. Now compare these shapes to the Mercury Eight, Tucker Torpedo and GM LeSabre: -- Last edit: 2014-01-15 05:06:27
ChoclitBunny 2014-01-15 03:09	Tuppence870 wrote Your only* reason for this being a Tucker was the headlight configuration, .* That is absolutely not true... the opposite is true. I noticed that everything about this game car is a Tucker Torpedo, but I was in doubt about the strange front styling, and I assumed the left headlight is missing. All game cars are very messy in this game. This game car is clearly a 1948 Tucker,.. the left headlight is missing, the other two dots are the right headlight and the tip of the nose. The way you make all these drawings do not clear up things, but make it more confusing.
Black Bart 2014-01-15 02:52	Seems like you've just proved your point.
Tuppence870 2014-01-15 02:48	Just to finish off, it is quite clear that the body of this car is a stylised Mercury Eight:
Black Bart 2014-01-15 02:27	Those headlights on game car are quite further away from each other.
Tuppence870 2014-01-15 02:23	I've never heard something so hypocritical. If anything, you need to scrutinize this car further: I honestly don't see how I could make this any clearer. Your only reason for this being a Tucker was the headlight configuration, which as we can clearly see, does not match. As I've previously stated, the headlights are most likely taken from the GM LeSabre concept. However, the LeSabre is a convertible, so the body shape must be from a different vehicle. If anything, the body matches the Mercury Eight that this car was previously listed as. -- Last edit: 2014-01-15 02:26:56
ChoclitBunny 2014-01-15 01:44	Tuppence870 wrote Dude, there is not a single element of the Tucker Torpedo in this car. The only element you described is not a match (the Midnight Hauler clearly has 2 glowing lights in the centre of the front, while the Tucker has only 1 in the centre and more at the edges). Your comments are making less sense more and more. You might get stuck if you don't watch out. I don't mean to be rude, but I think it's time for you to really, really scrutenize car models most particularly... take your time for it! And please don't call me dude... that makes you sound very silly!
Tuppence870 2014-01-14 02:48	Dude, there is not a single element of the Tucker Torpedo in this car. The only element you described is not a match (the Midnight Hauler clearly has 2 glowing lights in the centre of the front, while the Tucker has only 1 in the centre and more at the edges).
ChoclitBunny 2014-01-14 01:40	1948 Tucker Torpedo: www.google.com/search?q=1948+tucker&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=emnJUvDCFIOgtAb-9IHgBA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1278&bih=841
Tuppence870 2013-12-30 16:54	The 'round thing' is actually taken directly from the LeSabre (dual headlights behind a rounded grille), and so is the hood structure. I don't see anything from the Torpedo on this car.
ChoclitBunny 2013-12-30 15:35	Tuppence870 wrote The front is more similar to the '51 GM LeSabre Concept - www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/wallpapers/2013/10/07/157077/17a30a6f4538da1192251bdd2799781b.jpg The car you found has a split front bumper. This Midnight Hauler has this round thing in the center of the front, so it's a Tucker Torpedo, not a Mercury Eight. The left headlight is missing though, but then again, all cars in Stunt Racer 64 are a mess.
Tuppence870 2013-12-29 16:16	The front is more similar to the '51 GM LeSabre Concept - www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/wallpapers/2013/10/07/157077/17a30a6f4538da1192251bdd2799781b.jpg
ChoclitBunny 2013-12-29 11:51	1948 Tucker Torpedo: www.carstyling.ru/resources/classic/1948_Tucker_chassis_1010.jpg (Take a close look, especially the front styling...)
Tony_Truand 2012-06-26 23:50	Or could it be a modified Hudson Hornet ?
ShantJ 2012-06-26 22:21	Modified Mercury Eight?

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