2019 Holden Commodore

	Extra info: Supercar Chassis: ZB Mk: 5 Class: Racecar Origin: Germany Playable vehicle

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holden nut 2020-11-16 01:13	Being replaced in 2023 by the Camaro. -- Last edit: 2022-09-07 04:22:14
MBR 2019-09-22 23:40	I believe Real Racing included this but the 2018 model, nice to see it made its way to grid
pwingcustom 2019-09-17 08:16	Well, at least the car we see here is wrapped in the Kimoa livery. A bit of a consolation prize... right?
carcrasher88 2019-09-15 01:03	Multiple things, and I'm not even gonna get political about it. The main thing, of course, is the rise of car-based crossover utility vehicles. They've been siphoning sales away from normal passenger cars, just like they, and their body-on-frame counterparts did to minivans, and as minivans did to station wagons before them. Some continue to remain successful sellers, like Toyota's Camry and Corolla, Honda's Accord and Civic, and the Dodge Charger, for example. Another thing is the domestic manufacturer's constant outsourcing of production out of the country, and that's even having it's effect on SUVs. Ford's EcoSport is imported from India, Buick's Envision is imported from China, GM's subcompact CUVs are built in South Korea, and more and more are even shifting to Mexico and Canada. Conversely, though, import brands are investing more and more in US production. More foreign brands are building vehicles in the US. BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Volkswagen, Honda, Toyota, and now even Volvo, just to name a few. Honda's even building their NSX supercar here, while Ford ended up outsourcing production of the latest GT to Canada. How's that for irony? We do still have the Mustang, Camaro, and Corvette, while FCA is still building Chargers and Challengers in Canada. So much for 'Domestic, not Domesticated', right? And on that topic, there's only one Dodge built in the US anymore, and that's the Durango. The Journey is built in Mexico, while the aforementioned Charger and Challenger, as well as the Grand Caravan, are built in Canada. Chrysler isn't even US built anymore, as the 300 and Pacifica are built in Canada. And Jeep's a mixed bag, with the Wrangler, Wrangler Unlimited, Gladiator, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee being US built, while the Renegade is built in Italy and the Compass is built in Mexico. Ford's largely US built, with the few exceptions of the Indian built EcoSport, Canadian built Edge, Mexican built Fusion, and the Spanish built Transit Connect, while they've invested in bringing the otherwise foreign built Ranger and Transit into stateside production. But that has, as you mentioned, along with stronger truck and SUV sales, resulted in all passenger cars being largely discontinued, with the exception of the Fusion...for now... Not gonna get started on GM as a whole...that would take me an hour to type up alone. Though, Chevrolet is still sticking with some passenger cars, with the Impala sticking around until this January, and the Spark, Sonic, Malibu, and Bolt staying for the foreseeable future. The Camaro's future seems to be in limbo, though. Corvette is obviously safe, with the C8 coming.
carcrasher88 2019-09-14 23:02	Personally, I agree, to an extent. It is a horrible Commodore, but it's not a horrible car as a whole. It's pretty darn good in it's Buick Regal form where we're from. I still don't know why GM couldn't develop a sedan based on the Alpha platform and build it here in the US for export. They could have sold it as a new Chevrolet Impala, with a longer wheelbase model as a new Caprice. Then, the Impala could be sold as the Commodore and the Caprice could have the Chevrolet badging swapped for Holden badging. Some would probably say that it's too expensive to import an American built Holden, but look at the GMC Acadia and it's Holden version...ok, that's a more profitable crossover utility vehicle, but I digress. Could've had a Ute version as well, sold as a Holden Ute in Australia and a Chevrolet El Camino in the US, which would also bring the El Camino around full circle, as the original El Camino was Impala-based back in 1959, which could help offset the cost of a RWD sedan's development, as that would likely be a big seller, both in the US and Australia/New Zealand. Oh, if only I was a GM executive...
Klumb3r 2019-09-14 20:39	yay

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