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Vector M12

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


BR Attacker1997 photo_librarymode_comment

2020-03-15 20:40
Fixed link for Dyablo (Beta Infernus):
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/b/b1/Dyablo-GTA3-front.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091012142308

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Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
US TomboyTanner photo_librarymode_comment

2020-03-08 02:28
I think it looks like a Mitsubishi Montero, because of how the windows are placed.
Chevrolet Express

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
US TheGreaser photo_librarymode_comment

2019-10-15 04:43
Ehh, not so much. Sure Rockstar is based in the U.K., but I still doubt that it's a third-gen Transit. Still a lifted-roof Express.
Chevrolet Express

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
SLON photo_librarymode_comment

2019-10-14 14:36
This is not an American at all. This is a generic van. In the early alpha version, it was called "Transit"; I hope there is no need to explain how it was inspired.
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2019-08-02 15:06
TheGreaser wrote
I would have preferred either the Toyota Tacoma or the Isuzu Hombre (basically a carbon-copy Brazilian Chevy S-10).


If I remember correctly, it was listed as a Tacoma a long time ago.

Edit:
web.archive.org/web/20151015030803/http://www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=48

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Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


FR twingo photo_librarymode_comment

2019-08-01 20:06
I still don't understand how this is supposed to be a Ford Ranger "Splash." It doesn't even have the corny 90's graphics. :??:
Whatever the hell this thing was before you folks messed with it, it should have stayed as that. Too many of you are trying to claim glory over one vehicle.

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Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2019-08-01 18:48
TheGreaser wrote
The ONLY reason why this is a Ranger Splash is because it's entirely similar to one. The Ranger itself, like the Bobcat in GTA III is a small pickup in the States. For the Dodge Ram, it's more mid-sized. The Bobcat is not mid-sized.

Also, Vice City, San Andreas and VCS models are directly based on the '83 Ranger (a pretty good replica I must say).


Can you explain what do you mean by "entirely similar"? Which part of the Bobcat looks like the Ranger?
Apart from the grille, I just can't see any similarity.

Yes, it's a Ranger in VC, but that doesn't prove anything, since some of the cars' design were completely changed between the two games (Stinger, Banshee, Landstalker).
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2019-07-29 02:18
I don't want to start another war, but could someone explain to me why is this pickup a Ford Ranger?

Because honestly, I still think it's more similar to the Ram.
Here's how I see it:
Comparison 1
Comparison 2
- the front bumper matches the Ram - the Ranger's bumper is more angular
- the shape of the hood is more similar to the Ram - the Ranger's hood is flat
- the shape of the wheel arches matches the Ram - the Ranger's are rounded
- the Ranger Splash has a step on the sides behind the cab - the Bobcat hasn't

If I'm wrong, can you explain which part of the Bobcat looks like the Ranger?

BTW, I used the fixed Bobcat model from the Leftovers Fix mod in the screenshots.

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Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


FR twingo photo_librarymode_comment

2019-07-21 20:41
Yikes. You people need to find other pages to fix. We've already identified this vehicle, stop bothering with this page.
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


ID GamerFIB7590 photo_librarymode_comment

2019-07-20 19:12
Kent Paul: Don't start, not in this confined space
Please, don't make it look like Bobcat Wars, i strongly agree with Silnev this is a Ranger Splash, i fail to see a Dodge Ram here
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2019-07-20 08:55
I still think it's a Ram. I made a morphing animation between the Bobcat and the Ram, maybe it changes your mind:
3dthis.com/player.htm?h=NzQ2NTk4

The grille is different, but I think it's justified, since the Dodge crosshair grille is trademarked. Furthermore, none of the Dodge-based cars has the crosshair grille in the GTA series - just look at the Willard (SA), the Sindacco Argento, the Buffalo (HD Era), the Youga, the Gresley or the Bison.
The headlights are bigger than the Ram's, but the shape of the indicator lights are the same.
Apart from these, I don't think there's too much difference.
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


AU Silnev photo_librarymode_comment

2019-07-19 20:50
Mathias98 wrote
Does anyone else have an opinion?
Should it be changed to Dodge Ram or not?


Dude it's not a ram. It' a Ford Ranger splash but with chrome bumpers.



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Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2019-07-19 19:57
Does anyone else have an opinion?
Should it be changed to Dodge Ram or not?
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
CH Solarriors photo_librarymode_comment

2019-07-17 00:34
And this time my life was a whole lie
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2019-07-16 18:30
I have recently replayed GTA III and I think the Bobcat isn't a Ford Ranger - In my opinion it's rather a Dodge Ram.
For comparison:
Dodge Ram
Ford Ranger
And it might be just a coincidence, but it's also named after an animal.
Does anyone agree or disagree?
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


ES andarara photo_librarymode_comment

2019-02-21 19:23
Who removed the previous statment? It is a Ford Escape/Maverick!

Even if it wasn´t as popular as the JGC in the US is far more similar!
Firstly is the compact size the Maverick has, Jeep Grand Cherokee is more masive in size! Then there´s the spare wheel, then the rear lights...
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
SLON photo_librarymode_comment

2019-02-09 16:40
I have no idea where you see Grand Cherokee here. For me, this is just a mash-up, based on various Japanese SUVs of those years.
International Harvester Loadstar

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
US 90celica photo_librarymode_comment

2018-12-18 21:54
When they said no to the School Bus, they replaced it with this stupid mishmash of a School Bus chassis and the back of a 60s New York City Bus. Unrealistic piece of crap. My Suggestion, mod your PC copy of GTA III, and replace this mutant mobile with the School Bus from the Beta/Alpha version and have fun.
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
US 90celica photo_librarymode_comment

2018-12-18 21:48
At first, I was thinking 1995 Toyota Tacoma, but I'm starting to think 1996 Isuzu Hombre, cuz front end, square-ish tail lights, and shape.
Freightliner FL 60

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


SE Slayer photo_librarymode_comment

2018-10-18 17:56
This looks very much like a Freightliner FL60: policecararchives.org/georgia/fulton_images/cnpca16599-vi.jpg
Dodge Viper

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


ID RushCars24 photo_librarymode_comment

2018-08-05 12:30
Wikia images are NOT allowed, you need to shot that by yourself.

Also for the rear pic, I don't think that's a mod, but rather taken from the Xbox 360 version of the game, if I was correct, R* changed some things in the X360 version such as vehicles reflections, various textures, and improved vehicle wheel models.
Chevrolet Express

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
UA valera photo_librarymode_comment

2018-05-25 20:46
Strange choice for gang car) I thought that the real triads in 90's used a Jag XK and W126 Benz.

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Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


RU Nickolay27PM photo_librarymode_comment

2018-04-27 07:30
Ford Explorer
Plymouth Reliant K

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-12-02 13:36
mazdacosmo wrote
in devlopment it was called "Reliant" so its a Plymouth Reliant


No, the beta name was Ariant (Aries + Reliant).

Edit:
It's almost impossible to tell which car is it, because the Manana is probably the least detailed vehicle in the game.

On IMCDB they are listed as Aries by default:
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=757067
www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=717750

But on the other hand, more Reliants were built:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Reliant#Production_numbers

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Plymouth Reliant K

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


US mazdacosmo photo_librarymode_comment

2017-12-02 10:43
in devlopment it was called "Reliant" so its a Plymouth Reliant
Vector M12

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


RU Nickolay27PM photo_librarymode_comment

2017-11-21 16:13
It's a Jaguar NOT Vector!
Chevrolet Caprice

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


RU Nickolay27PM photo_librarymode_comment

2017-11-21 16:01
Ford Crown Victoria
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
CA Soundlessleaf photo_librarymode_comment

2017-11-19 17:01
this truck is a pretty big mixture of things, front end looks kinda like an Isuzu Hombre and a 93-97 Ford Ranger, but the taillights are what looks to be inspired by the 96-03 Ford F-150 Stepside Bed Taillights and the overall shape of the truck is somewhat reminiscent of late 90s-early 2000s Toyotas
Ford F-350

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
CA Soundlessleaf photo_librarymode_comment

2017-11-19 16:54
I see pretty much no resemblance to a Silverado, this is more likely to be a 96-03 F-150 (most likely the 2000 crew cab model) but slightly more square
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
UA valera photo_librarymode_comment

2017-11-19 11:42
For me it looks like Ford Escape\Maverick
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CZ Aginnon photo_librarymode_comment

2017-06-05 16:15
Grand Cherokee is right! It is!
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-05-14 03:22
Sorry, I have gone too far.
I didn't want a debate with anyone.
I deleted most of my comments on the page.

But you can't ignore the fact that the Landstalker is listed as Jeep Grand Cherokee on the German, French, Portugalian and Russian GTA Wikias.
And it was listed earlier as a JGC on the English GTA Wikia. And it seems that it was changed accidentally.
And GrandTheftWiki, which is more accurate than GTA Wikia, also calls it a JGC.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CarCrazedAlex586 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-05-07 20:11
Mathias98 wrote
I know that I'm beating a dead horse, but...
- the script implies that it's based on a Jeep
- with the exception of LCS, it's based on a Jeep in the 3D Universe
- it wouldn't make any sense to be based on something foreign and then based on an American SUV in all other GTA games

I know I said in my previous comment that it might be based on the Montero, but I think the similarity is only accidental - similarly how the Infernus resembles the Vector.

And please, don't forget that GTA 3 was the first GTA game in 3D, and it has only about 40 vehicles. And there's only one SUV in the game. And if there's only one SUV in the game, it's most likely based on popular and well-known vehicle. The Jeep WJ was sold worldwide, and it's far more popular than the Montero, Freelander, Escape or the CR-V.

So, even though it might not look like a Jeep at the first glance, I still think the best match is the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ).

Stop shoving your opinion down our throats! We are sick and tired of this! Give up NOW! Also, GIVE UP EDITING!
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-05-07 19:41
Mathias98 wrote
I know that I'm beating a dead horse, but...
- the script implies that it's based on a Jeep
- with the exception of LCS, it's based on a Jeep in the 3D Universe
- it wouldn't make any sense to be based on something foreign and then based on an American SUV in all other GTA games

I know I said in my previous comment that it might be based on the Montero, but I think the similarity is only accidental - similarly how the Infernus resembles the Vector.

And please, don't forget that GTA 3 was the first GTA game in 3D, and it has only about 40 vehicles. And there's only one SUV in the game. And if there's only one SUV in the game, it's most likely based on popular and well-known vehicle. The Jeep WJ was sold worldwide, and it's far more popular than the Montero, Freelander, Escape or the CR-V.

So, even though it might not look like a Jeep at the first glance, I still think the best match is the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ).

We all lost the craps we have and you are still rambling on about why you think this is a GJ. Give up!
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


US Your Worst Nightmare photo_librarymode_comment

2017-05-07 19:22
Mathias98 wrote
I know that I'm beating a dead horse, but...
- the script implies that it's based on a Jeep
- with the exception of LCS, it's based on a Jeep in the 3D Universe
- it wouldn't make any sense to be based on something foreign and then based on an American SUV in all other GTA games

I know I said in my previous comment that it might be based on the Montero, but I think the similarity is only accidental - similarly how the Infernus resembles the Vector.

And please, don't forget that GTA 3 was the first GTA game in 3D, and it has only about 40 vehicles. And there's only one SUV in the game. And if there's only one SUV in the game, it's most likely based on popular and well-known vehicle. The Jeep WJ was sold worldwide, and it's far more popular than the Montero, Freelander, Escape or the CR-V.

So, even though it might not look like a Jeep at the first glance, I still think the best match is the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ).

Fascinating, sadly nobody cares about this car exept you.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-05-01 00:58
It reminds me of the Escape, G. Cherokee and Montero Sport at the same time. I think in cases like this, in which a clear answer is not easy and people will never agree, is list the Landstalker as Made for Game as being too generic.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


Twilight Sparkplug photo_librarymode_comment

2017-05-01 00:51
Well, I am.
but at times I feel I am the only one who does, And I also feel the same about my comments on here.

Personally the front end looks more like a Montero Sport.


And the rear, Sure It can be slightly freelander like, it could also be like a Discovery, or a Montero, or a Land Cruiser.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-30 23:22
Thanks for the umpteenth time for a comparison. The Landstalker is still not a WJ Grand Cherokee. Thank you.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-30 22:47
Hello everyone!
I know that I'm quite annoying at this point, and some people are going to disagree with me anyway, but I still didn't gave up.

I created a poll on GTAForums about the Landstalker, but only two people voted: one vote for the Freelander, and someone else said that it's based on the 1999-2001 Ford Explorer - but I think that we all can agree, that it's not the latter one.

So here's another (and I really hope the last) comparison picture:


Red - GC
Yellow - Freelander
Orange - It could be both
Green - ?

As you can see, this time I used the XBOX model, which is has higher quality textures: it has metallic grille, similarly to the GC's Laredo trim, and the headlights are more closely resembles the GC's.
The shape of the rear windows on the side are could be from several vehicles. Maybe a Toyota RAV4?
The spare tire, the position of the license plate and the taillights are most likely from the Freelander.
But as someone said on the GTAForums page I mentioned above: "It all probably just flowed from his (Paul Kurowski, the vehicle designer) mind." - So maybe some parts of the SUV aren't based on any real vehicle.

And I realized that the Landstalker also has a spare tire on the back in VC and VCS, despite the fact, that the Jeep Wagoneer didn't have a spare tire. But they're listed as Wagoneer - and no one has a problem with it.
So, what is different in this case?
Why is this Landstalker can't be listed as a Grand Cherokee with a spare tire?

And changing the Landstalker on the VC and VCS page is to unknown is certainly not the correct solution.

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Made for Game Tank

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CZ Aginnon photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-27 20:27
M3 tank?
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


Twilight Sparkplug photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-25 00:03
hm, Now that I look the rear does have the same bumper as a Freelander, but the rest of the body shape is just kind of, Odd.

But I went and loaded it up,
I hope this helps your search,

i.imgur.com/4z9Cln9.jpg

I have looked over many SUVs of that era and have come up still blank, I think they just made up the body shape.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-24 23:22
Mathias98 wrote
Okay, so how long it will be listed as unknown?
Did anyone find a better match than the Jeep Grand Cherokee?

You can't expect everybody to agree with your opinion. You think it's a GC, I think it's a CR-V/Freelander. Also, nobody touched this thread until you showed up again. I'm fine with it being Unknown/M4G until somebody changes it to a small SUV with a spare tire. I have another suggestion. It's Japanese, has a spare tire on the back, and was sold in the U.S, but since your mind is overfocused on the Grand Cherokee, and won't agree to anything else, I'm gonna keep my mouth shut about it.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CarCrazedAlex586 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-24 22:48
Can you stop? This is almost like Vexter XS wars.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


Twilight Sparkplug photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-13 23:16
wow Im dumb, Why did I keep saying freelander? Oh well.

I still cant see this being a Landrover of any type regardless. My two cents

Also, Mathias98
Welcome to my world, I try to post images, and comparisons but people don't seem to care that much about those :P
you can show an exact car, and someone will still make a seemingly random suggestion after you, Not all the time, But some people seem to post before they read the other peoples comments is all.

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Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


FR Rinspeed photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-13 23:09
Mathias98 wrote
Okay, sorry for the F-word.

You say it can't be a GC, because it has a spare tire. But you said in an earlier comment that back is from a Freelander, and I agreed with that. And I said in my essay above that it could be a GC/Freelander mix.
And size doesn't matter. Just look at this, for example:
www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=46846
It's much bigger that it should be, but it's still based on International 3800 bus.
Just because it's smaller, it can be a GC.
And please, tell me why do you think the Discovery is a better match. Apart from the spare tire and the name.

i don't accept an edit. It's an admin that put LR Discovery. But it's not because you said that it's JGC 100 times that we are ok with you.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CarCrazedAlex586 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-13 22:49
Seriously, the Landstalker name has nothing to do with Native American tribes (Cherokee is a Native American tribe).
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


BE Speedevil photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-13 22:46
Also, it's called Landstalker. There's probably a reason for that...
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-13 22:08
Who cares about the sales of the cars, if it is based of a car it is based on it. Period. Sale data doesn't matter. The car never spawns in Portland, it is seen on the streets seldomly in Staunton Island, and is more common in Shoreside Vale.

Secondly, the GC is too big to be the Landstalker. The Landstalker is a smaller SUV in this game, plus it has a spare tire. So the GC is out of the question, and the CR-V gif is the closest it can get too, with Freelander headlights and tailights.

Just because it was a Jeep in VC and SA doesn't mean it can be a Jeep in others, it was a Lincoln Navigatot/Ford Expidition in GTA 4 and 5. So why can't it be different in 3?

Yes, it is not a Discovery, but it's at least better than having it as an American SUV like an Escape or GC. Personally I would list it as a CR-V, but that's just my opinion, no need to get upset.

Also, please watch your language. No need for the F-bombs.

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Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-13 21:46
Seems a better match than the Escape.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199 photo_librarymode_comment

2017-04-13 20:34
I knew I said that I was done here but I actually like it being identified as a Discovery than something American.
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