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Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199

2017-04-10 22:10
Mathias98 wrote


I disagree:
The CR-V has a smaller grille, and none of the vehicles mentioned above on the page has the same front bumper and wheel arches as the Grand Cherokee/Landstalker.
But I agree with the second part of your sentence, the rear might be from the Freelander.


Whatever, I still think it's a CR-V with Freelander headlight and rear. Whatever this car becomes identified to next is going to be incorrect anyways, because the Ford Escape and second gen GC don't have spare tires on the back. Besides, this ain't worth my time anyways, the car is too tippy and hard to drive, it didn't become decent until GTA 4.

Also, who am I to judge? Half the unlicensed cars on this site are identified wrong anyways.

I'm done with this discussion.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2017-04-10 21:54
K20lover199 wrote
I wasn't saying that the WHOLE car is a Freelander. The front and sides are a CR-V and the back and headlights are from a Freelander.


I disagree:

The CR-V has a smaller grille, and none of the vehicles mentioned above on the page has the same front bumper and wheel arches as the Grand Cherokee/Landstalker.
But I agree with the second part of your sentence, the rear might be from the Freelander.

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Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199

2017-04-10 18:43
Mathias98 wrote




And actually, the Freelander isn't so similar to the Landstalker


I wasn't saying that the WHOLE car is a Freelander. The front and sides are a CR-V and the back and headlights are from a Freelander.

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2017-04-10 18:47:59
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


PL sajmon14

2017-04-10 18:02
I dunno what vehicle it really is and I'm not saying that it's a Land Rover but they can put anything they want to the game ;)
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2017-04-10 17:56
Sajmon14 wrote
Aren't the devs from UK?


Rockstar North is located in Edinburgh, Scotland, but why would they add a British SUV to a game, which is set in the USA?

And actually, the Freelander isn't so similar to the Landstalker:
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CZ Aginnon

2017-04-10 15:48
◘○•♀! wrote

Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17.

Congrats, you're so immature.
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


ID GamerFIB7590

2017-04-10 15:06
◘○•♀! wrote

Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17.

makkaraperunat wrote

Yeah, and stop with the terrible pictures. If you have a computer that can't even run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in frigging 2017 don't even bother.

Welcome back again, makkaraperunat. I have these and still CAN run. Who's the first world ponyfag one? And congrats again for being banned for second time

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2017-04-10 15:13:41
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HK BrianMak

2017-04-10 13:57
◘○•♀! wrote

Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17.

Congratulations , you are banned for trolling and saying profanity

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2017-04-10 13:59:36
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


FR Rinspeed

2017-04-10 13:48
◘○•♀! wrote

Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17.

banned
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
BB ◘○•♀!

2017-04-10 13:31
GamerFIB7590 wrote

Congrats, you just got an insta-ban

Congrats, you're a third world ponyfag who cannot run NFS UG2 or MW2005 maxed out in 20 fucking 17.

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2017-04-10 13:36:00
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


PL Sajmon14

2017-04-10 00:27
Mathias98 wrote

Why would it be based on a Freelander, which wasn't available in the US when the game was released?


Aren't the devs from UK?
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2017-04-09 23:28
Oh, so now it's listed as Made For Game... fantastic.

Okay, so I'm trying to prove that it's based on a Jeep:
Most cars in the GTA 3 are based on common and well-known vehicles. There's only one SUV in the game, so it's most likely based on something popular. The Jeep Grand Cherokee was one of the most common SUVs in the late 90's US, so the Landstalker is more likely based on it instead of some rare Japanese SUV.
Why would it be based on a Freelander, which wasn't available in the US when the game was released?
Or the Escape, which was a far less common vehicle?


There are only minimal differences.
Vector M12

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17

2017-04-09 22:02
Mathias98 wrote


Around 75% of modern Spanish is derived from Latin - Wikipedia

I believe French, Portuguese, Italian and English are also largely based on Latin. Your point?
Vector M12

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17

2017-04-09 21:53
Mathias98 wrote




And the name of the Infernus is obviously a reference to the Diablo:
Diablo=devil (Spanish)
Inferno=hell (Latin)

You're oversimplifying things. Round and rounded are two different things, just like Spanish and Latin are different languages.
Vector M12

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17

2017-04-09 19:53
You should probably know these comparison pictures are very subjective. It all depends on which lines you decide to draw.
The Infernus is very round, like the Vector. The Diablo is very square.
Vector M12

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2017-04-09 19:16
Here's the comparison of the Vector and the Diablo:

The rear is quite generic but the shape is much closer to the Diablo than the Vector.
The Vector has different shaped door.
The windows shape is definitely from the Diablo.
The Vector has air intakes on the sides, while the Diablo and the Infernus has not.
The cockpit is positioned further forward on the Vector.
So, as I said earlier, only the front bumper, the headlights and the spoiler is from the Vector, almost everything else is from the Diablo.

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2017-04-09 23:59:15
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


ID GamerFIB7590

2017-04-09 17:23
♣♠b•◘ wrote

Congrats, you're retarded.

Congrats, you just got an insta-ban
Now PM me on Gmail - Where did you come from? Mars? Jupiter? YouTube spambot (Since YouTube is the homeland of trolls/spambots)?
Also this, EXCUSE my aggressor since i still remember there's another provocation user next to uwotm8 (Also seen this comment with the link of page below)
uwotm8 wrote

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2017-04-09 17:28:02
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


FR Rinspeed

2017-04-09 15:14
♣♠b•◘ wrote

Congrats, you're retarded.

banned because fake account only for provocation
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
♣♠b•◘

2017-04-09 14:05
Aginnon wrote

My bad. Thought the '85 RX-7 had the same wheels.

Congrats, you're retarded.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17

2017-04-09 13:55
Mathias98 wrote

And about the Infernus: the sides, the shape of the windows and the rear is definitely from a Diablo.
And furthermore, only 14 Vector M12s were built - so it's unlikely that the person who modeled the Infernus, decided to base it on an almost unknown, extremely rare sports car.

Vectors were actually quite popular in 90s Arcade Racing Games, so you'd be wrong to say they are unknown.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CZ Aginnon

2017-04-09 10:21
If this really is a Honda, it must be a CR-V with HR-V wheels.
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CZ Aginnon

2017-04-09 10:19
Mathias98 wrote


You're wrong, those wheels are from a Fiat Punto:
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_537152-Fiat-Punto-188-2000.html

My bad. Thought the '85 RX-7 had the same wheels.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199

2017-04-09 09:48
Mathias98 wrote


"This first-generation model (1993–2002) sold in low numbers even domestically in South Korea" -Wikipedia
So it's definitely not a Sportage.


Just because it didn't sell well doesn't mean that it is not that car. It's not a GC or an Escape. Those are too big and don't have spare tires. I think it's a Freelander/CR-V, but it could also be similar cars listed below.

1997-2001 Honda CR-V
2002 Land Rover Freelander
1993-2002 Kia Sportage
1999-2004 Suzuki Grand Vitara/Chevrolet Tracker

I'm not going to force anybody into thinking that it's one of these cars above. If many people agree it should be a GC then change it as you please.

Have fun editing it wrong :)

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2017-04-10 18:44:29
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


ID GamerFIB7590

2017-04-09 04:43
I'm thinking the 2nd gen Isuzu Trooper, but the problem is the B/C-Pillar is slanted

Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199

2017-04-09 03:34
Mathias98 wrote
It can't be a Freelander, because the first model year was 2002 in the USA.


The game takes place in October 2001, so it could be a 2002 model year in 2001. Either that or it could be first gen Honda CRV because of the spare tire.

Edit: What about a 1995-2002 Kia Sportage?

About the Infernus, the beta version was a Lamborghini Diablo and the final version is a Vector M12.

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2017-04-09 03:36:58
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199

2017-04-09 02:54
carcrasher88 wrote
How about another possibility...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner#Second_generation_.28N120.3B_N130.3B_1989.E2.80.931995.29

...the second generation Toyota 4Runner. If you look at the side of the Landstalker, the rear window is raised up compared to the door windows, like the 4Runner, and the body line marked in red dips down further than the Escape or GC, just like said 4Runner.

Then, there's the rear tailgate, license plate, and spare tire...which all actually match the Japanese market (JDM) version, the Hilux Surf.


This? A 4runner? HA!

This is too big be a 4runner, and the Hilux Surf wasn't sold in the States nor legal to import to America.

If you ask ME, then it's either a first gen Land Rover Freelander or a first gen Honda CR-V.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)
US carcrasher88

2017-04-09 02:08
How about another possibility...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner#Second_generation_.28N120.3B_N130.3B_1989.E2.80.931995.29

...the second generation Toyota 4Runner. If you look at the side of the Landstalker, the rear window is raised up compared to the door windows, like the 4Runner, and the body line marked in red dips down further than the Escape or GC, just like said 4Runner.

Then, there's the rear tailgate, license plate, and spare tire...which all actually match the Japanese market (JDM) version, the Hilux Surf.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17

2017-04-08 23:44
Mathias98 wrote


And now?

The headlights are the only thing that matches (except for the photoshopped grille). To be honest, I think the Landstalker looks too old to be either the Grand Cherokee or Escape.
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2017-04-08 22:58
Aginnon wrote
Intrepid with '85 Mazda RX-7 wheels. Strange, considering a sedan.


You're wrong, those wheels are from a Fiat Punto:
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_537152-Fiat-Punto-188-2000.html
BMW 5

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2017-04-08 22:58
Aginnon wrote
'91 Honda NSX wheels, neat.


No, the wheels are from a Honda HR-V:
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_620248-Honda-HR-V-1999.html
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CZ Aginnon

2017-04-08 12:40
Intrepid with '85 Mazda RX-7 wheels. Strange, considering a sedan.
BMW 5

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CZ Aginnon

2017-04-08 12:37
'91 Honda NSX wheels, neat.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17

2017-04-08 10:58
CarCrazedAlex586 wrote

Did you see Mat's comparison chart?

Yes
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CarCrazedAlex586

2017-04-08 00:48
Desscythe17 wrote
I don't think it looks like a Grand Cherokee. It's too small to be one, and there are so many shapes on it that don't match. Not sure about it being an Escape either, but it's a better match than the Grand Cherokee.

Did you see Mat's comparison chart?
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


VC Desscythe17

2017-04-08 00:45
I don't think it looks like a Grand Cherokee. It's too small to be one, and there are so many shapes on it that don't match. Not sure about it being an Escape either, but it's a better match than the Grand Cherokee.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


FR Rinspeed

2017-04-07 23:11
Mathias98 wrote
Rinspeed, did you read my last comment before you rejected my edits?

yes but as i hadn't other opinion of other admin or old member
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CarCrazedAlex586

2017-04-05 13:10
#StopRejectingMathias'Edit
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


K20lover199

2017-03-16 00:01
Am I the only one who thinks this is a first generation Honda CR-V?
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


CarCrazedAlex586

2017-03-05 15:12
Mathias98 wrote
I posted a picture in December, which proves that it's a Grand Cherokee. I tried to edit it several times, but it was always rejected. But why? Just look at the picture, it's definitely a Grand Cherokee!

I forgot to agree, so now we are two people on IGCD thinking about a Grand Cherokee.
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


FR Rinspeed

2017-03-05 12:48
Mathias98 wrote


No, I'm not. Just look at GrandTheftWiki, which has more accurate information that GTA Wikia:
www.grandtheftwiki.com/Landstalker#3D_Universe

i say here, not on a lambda wiki
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


FR Rinspeed

2017-03-05 09:17
Mathias98 wrote
I posted a picture in December, which proves that it's a Grand Cherokee. I tried to edit it several times, but it was always rejected. But why? Just look at the picture, it's definitely a Grand Cherokee!

you are the only one to say that
Vector M12

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2017-03-03 22:23
I think this should be listed as a Lamborghini Diablo.
The Vector M12 has completely different taillights, and the shape of the windows are clearly taken from the Lambo, and most importantly, it's called Diablo in the script: gtamodding.ru/wiki/Kenji#kenji2
Jeep Grand Cherokee

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2016-12-17 20:21
The Landstalker is not a Ford Escape, but a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ). I made a quick comparison:

Except the grille, the spare tire and some other details, it's almost identical.
And don't forget, that it was based on a Jeep Wagoneer in VC, SA, and VCS.

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2017-01-19 17:28:16
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


UK Tuppence870

2016-12-17 19:34
Mathias98 wrote
The same pickup (except the glitched headlight) is listed as a '93 Ford Ranger on the LCS page. I tried to edit this one earlier today, but it was rejected. I think this is one of the problems with the site.
For example the Toyota Camry in Max Payne 3 was listed as a Renault Encore in GTA V, despite they are identical.
Or, one of the Hotring Racers was listed as a Pontiac Grand Prix in GTA San Andreas and IV, but as a Chevy Camaro in Vice City, despite it's the exactly same car.
I think people should pay more attention when adding or editing vehicles.

Tell me about it. Don't look at the Motor World page if you value your sanity.
Toyota Tacoma

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


HU Mathias98

2016-12-17 19:03
The same pickup (except the glitched headlight) is listed as a '93 Ford Ranger on the LCS page. I tried to edit this one earlier today, but it was rejected. I think this is one of the problems with the site.
For example the Toyota Camry in Max Payne 3 was listed as a Renault Encore in GTA V, despite they are identical.
Or, one of the Hotring Racers was listed as a Pontiac Grand Prix in GTA San Andreas and IV, but as a Chevy Camaro in Vice City, despite it's the exactly same car.
I think people should pay more attention when adding or editing vehicles.

By the way, I tried to add the links of the vehicles mentioned above to this comment, but I couldn't post it for some reason.
BMW M5

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


PL sajmon14

2016-11-04 19:31
I agree
BMW M5

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


IT Automotive Gaming

2016-11-04 19:19
Shouldn't this be an E34 rather than an E39?

www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=180795&d=1239282680
www.ziptied.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10036/vipstylebmw.jpg

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2016-11-04 19:19:39
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


US Burn Rubber

2016-10-21 22:11
Hakari wrote

Does it matter? If a car is listed wrong for 5 years for example, we can't do anything about it? We have a lot of cars listed completely wrong in many less known games, especially from times when not everyone were allowed to edit vehicles. Feel free to discuss any car regardless of addition year.

Can we get this comment on IGCD's homepage please?

Anyway, I agree with Stratus.
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


PL Hakari

2016-10-21 22:06
NismoR35 wrote
The fact that this car has been left relatively untouched and fine as it was until now just says it all....... Wow guys, seriously.

Does it matter? If a car is listed wrong for 5 years for example, we can't do anything about it? We have a lot of cars listed completely wrong in many less known games, especially from times when not everyone were allowed to edit vehicles. Feel free to discuss any car regardless of addition year.
Dodge Intrepid

Grand Theft Auto III (2001)


US NismoR35

2016-10-21 17:50
The fact that this car has been left relatively untouched and fine as it was until now just says it all....... Wow guys, seriously.
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