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Mercedes-Benz SLK Out Road (2004)	hydren 2023-11-28 03:54	Victor_2003 wrote The design are too block to be the CL203 series. I agree, but I still think this may be too blocky because the sprite is not perfect. If the artist was trying to depict a SLK, why there is a black "spoiler"-like bar on the sprite? Stock SLK does not have rear spoiler. On the other hand, the "spoiler"-like bar is very similar to CL203 series trunk lid ledge.
Mercedes-Benz SLK Out Road (2004)	Victor_2003 2023-11-25 11:48	hydren wrote Mercedes-Benz CL203 series: The design are too block to be the CL203 series.
Mercedes-Benz SLK Out Road (2004)	hydren 2023-11-24 22:52	Mercedes-Benz CL203 series:
Ford F-250 Out Road (2004)	Jim4800Frank 2022-08-06 18:23	1997 F-150?
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Tuppence870 2022-04-12 02:57	Mathias98 wrote I found a comment on IMCDB that explains why it's American: But that comment has fundamentally misunderstood what the origin is supposed to represent. As far as I'm aware, it's not usually the location of the original concept's design studio. The 1994 Volkswagen Concept One was designed at VW's Simi Valley design studio in California. However, the production version of the New Beetle was designed by Peter Schreyer in 1997 at VW's HQ in Wolfsburg, Germany. This is also where production started before moving to Mexico in 1999. Unlike those Brazilian and Chinese VW's, the New Beetle is not exclusive to the American market. In fact, certain key models such as the New Beetle RSi were never available in America.
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Mathias98 2022-04-12 00:49	Tuppence870 wrote Then maybe it's time for things to change, because if there isn't a better reason for the US origin, the VW New Beetle should be listed as German from now on. I found a comment on IMCDB that explains why it's American: Lateef wrote The New Beetle was an American design and development, and the fact that the Volkswagen marque is originally German, doesn't mean that all the cars bearing the name are German. There are also several Chinese and Brazilian Volkswagens that have close to no relations with German Volkswagens. -- Last edit: 2022-04-12 00:52:29
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Tuppence870 2022-04-11 23:46	Place-Holder wrote I know. But that's just how things are here. Then maybe it's time for things to change, because if there isn't a better reason for the US origin, the VW New Beetle should be listed as German from now on.
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	TheGreaser 2022-04-11 06:16	Well that's not how it actually works. It should still be listed as origin Germany regardless. Same with all other New Beetle/Beetle A5 models on this site. You wouldn't list Minis as origin Germany, even as BMW owns the brand, so why should the Beetle be American?? -- Last edit: 2022-04-11 06:18:16
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Place-Holder 2022-04-11 00:47	Tuppence870 wrote While that may be true, it's not uncommon in the car industry to utilise designers or design studios from another country. A good example is the Mazda MX-5 Miata, which was also designed by an American studio, but they are (rightly) listed as Japanese. I know. But that's just how things are here.
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Tuppence870 2022-04-11 00:44	Place-Holder wrote I looked into it and asked around. To my understanding the reason the beetle is listed as american was because it was designed by an american. While that may be true, it's not uncommon in the car industry to utilise designers or design studios from another country. A good example is the Mazda MX-5 Miata, which was also designed by an American studio, but they are (rightly) listed as Japanese.
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Place-Holder 2022-04-10 21:30	Tuppence870 wrote They were both sold and built in Germany, which makes me wonder why New Beetles are listed as American on IGCD? I'm not an expert on the Beetle, but I can't seem to find any legitimate claim to support a US origin for these? I looked into it and asked around. To my understanding the reason the beetle is listed as american was because it was designed by an american.
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	TheGreaser 2022-04-10 20:18	Well, Wikipedia seems murky in terms of assembly dates. It was built in Germany initially from 1997 until 1999. After that it was built in Mexico (and only in Mexico) until 2019, when production permanently stopped. But yeah, the Beetle wasn't American-made. So it should be Germany by default. If IGCD had a "Built in" option like IMCDb has, then it would be Germany first, Mexico for the rest.
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Tuppence870 2022-04-10 19:44	Victor_2003 wrote The New Beetle never was sold to Germany? They were both sold and built in Germany, which makes me wonder why New Beetles are listed as American on IGCD? I'm not an expert on the Beetle, but I can't seem to find any legitimate claim to support a US origin for these?
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Victor_2003 2022-04-10 13:28	Bruisemobile wrote Class: Hatchback. Origin: USA. The New Beetle never was sold to Germany?
Volkswagen New Beetle Out Road (2004)	Bruisemobile 2022-04-10 02:18	Class: Hatchback. Origin: USA.