2012 Buick Verano

	Chassis: J300 Class: Sedan Origin: Germany Unplayable vehicle : Part of Patch 1.32 update.

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Antti-san 2023-04-01 22:40	Mathias98 wrote I agree, just simply having German origin for a Verano is a bit weird. IMCDB also has an option to add "Built in: [country name]" and "Made for: [country name]" next to the country origin, which could be useful for cases like this car - I think it would be a good idea to add these features to IGCD. That would help clear up things a bit, since there are a lot of inconsistencies on the site right now - for example some of the Opel-based Vauxhalls have British, while others have German origin. IGCD used to have the "made for" as well, but it was removed at some point.
Vxctec 2023-04-01 22:32	Mathias98 wrote I agree, just simply having German origin for a Verano is a bit weird. IMCDB also has an option to add "Built in: [country name]" and "Made for: [country name]" next to the country origin, which could be useful for cases like this car - I think it would be a good idea to add these features to IGCD. That would help clear up things a bit, since there are a lot of inconsistencies on the site right now - for example some of the Opel-based Vauxhalls have British, while others have German origin. Thanks for explaining this. If it was supposed to be an Opel, or something based on it, then it would make sense to list its origin as German, but this is clearly a Buick Verano which is a US-made vehicle, being in a US based game and is sold directly in the US market, so the origin being American is more valid. The design doesn't match the Opel Astra either, so that's another catch for listing it as a German vehicle. Same reason why some sedans are incorrectly listed as hatchbacks on IGCD.
Place-Holder 2023-04-01 20:21	Just to clarify, the "Origin" is to represent where the vehicle was originally created/designed/engineered. Where the vehicle was actually built, is not taken into consideration, nor is the market it was sold in. -- Last edit: 2023-04-01 20:21:27
Mathias98 2023-04-01 16:35	I agree, just simply having German origin for a Verano is a bit weird. IMCDB also has an option to add "Built in: [country name]" and "Made for: [country name]" next to the country origin, which could be useful for cases like this car - I think it would be a good idea to add these features to IGCD. That would help clear up things a bit, since there are a lot of inconsistencies on the site right now - for example some of the Opel-based Vauxhalls have British, while others have German origin. -- Last edit: 2023-04-01 16:36:38
Vxctec 2023-04-01 01:40	Tuppence870 wrote That is pretty much exactly what I said about the Buick, but the Transit is a different case. The Transit has a history as a European market model dating back over 50 years, whereas it only came to the US market in 2014. Ford of Europe is based in Germany, and most EU-origin Fords are listed as German to reflect that, including most other Transits. It's worth mentioning that the location of a vehicle's manufacture is not necessarily what the origin on IGCD refers to - instead it's more about the cultural context of what country the vehicle is associated with. Still would make sense to me to name a vehicle made in a particular location and give it a different origin in another place.
rayjunhwang1357x 2023-03-30 18:03	Bruisemobile wrote Not true. No one's always right. Okay.
Bruisemobile 2023-03-30 17:29	rayjunhwang1357x wrote You heard him. Bruise is always right. Not true. No one's always right.
Tuppence870 2023-03-30 15:24	Vxctec wrote But it is still an American model that is differed from the German version. The Ford Transit in ATS is listed as a German model when it isn't. That is pretty much exactly what I said about the Buick, but the Transit is a different case. The Transit has a history as a European market model dating back over 50 years, whereas it only came to the US market in 2014. Ford of Europe is based in Germany, and most EU-origin Fords are listed as German to reflect that, including most other Transits. It's worth mentioning that the location of a vehicle's manufacture is not necessarily what the origin on IGCD refers to - instead it's more about the cultural context of what country the vehicle is associated with. -- Last edit: 2023-03-30 15:27:53
Vxctec 2023-03-30 07:26	Tuppence870 wrote I believe the reason for it being listed as German is because IMCDb views it as a rebadged Opel Astra. I'm not sure if that's an entirely correct assumption though - it does share the same platform as the Astra (as do many other vehicles like the Chevrolet Cruze & Volt), but unlike the Chinese Buick Excelle XT (which is literally an Astra with a Buick badge slapped onto it), the Verano/Excelle GT has it's own unique design. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Delta_platform#Delta_II But it is still an American model that is differed from the German version. The Ford Transit in ATS is listed as a German model when it isn't.
Tuppence870 2023-03-30 01:33	Vxctec wrote So this is an American-made vehicle and not a German one, the manufacturing plants GM own in Germany are only associated with Opels. I believe the reason for it being listed as German is because IMCDb views it as a rebadged Opel Astra. I'm not sure if that's an entirely correct assumption though - it does share the same platform as the Astra (as do many other vehicles like the Chevrolet Cruze & Volt), but unlike the Chinese Buick Excelle XT (which is literally an Astra with a Buick badge slapped onto it), the Verano/Excelle GT has it's own unique design. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Delta_platform#Delta_II -- Last edit: 2023-03-30 01:35:21
Vxctec 2023-03-30 00:51	rayjunhwang1357x wrote You heard him. Bruise is always right. There are only 2 manufacturing plants for the first generation Verano, one located in Michigan USA, and the other in Yantai, a city in China (Where it is branded as an Excelle). The production model in the US was manufactured from 2011-2016, and was the only one sold directly in the American market: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Verano So this is an American-made vehicle and not a German one, the manufacturing plants GM own in Germany are only associated with Opels.
rayjunhwang1357x 2023-03-29 18:33	Vxctec wrote Well then IMCDB needs to change that, the Verano is manufactured in the USA, not Germany. They need to read Wikipedia. You heard him. Bruise is always right.
Vxctec 2022-04-03 20:56	Bruisemobile wrote True, but according to IMCDB, its origin is Germany. Well then IMCDB needs to change that, the Verano is manufactured in the USA, not Germany. They need to read Wikipedia.
Bruisemobile 2022-03-14 19:37	Vxctec wrote Wrong, the origin is USA, Wikipedia says that the vehicle is assembled in Michigan. True, but according to IMCDB, its origin is Germany.
Vxctec 2022-03-12 15:38	Speaking of which, why not a Lacrosse instead of a Verano?
Vxctec 2022-03-12 15:37	Bruisemobile wrote Origin is actually Germany. Wrong, the origin is USA, Wikipedia says that the vehicle is assembled in Michigan.
Bruisemobile 2022-03-11 20:47	Origin is actually Germany.

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