Forza Motorsport (2023)
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Type : Course Développeur: Turn 10 Studios Editeur: Xbox Game Studios Plateformes: PC, Xbox Series Véhicules endommageables: Oui Contributeurs (assigné(s)): speedfreak975 |
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Helluva way to "celebrate" the 20th anniversary of the franchise...  | |
| Looks Forza Motorsport 2023 is last Forza Motorsport series. Developer had large lay off. Same the Real Racing developer. | |
| Microsoft should really unify the asset libraries and engines of FH, FM and MSFS | |
| I hope the 2012 Nissan GTR will be added soon on future update in this game. -- Last edit: 2025-05-05 07:35:21 | |
| The 1972 Ford Falcon XA is missing from this list. | |
| Well, at least the Mustangs got some serious love this month, nice to see. | |
| Is someone going to do the locations? I like to compare car and track lists of some games sometimes, using this website, to decide if I want to get one over the other, or, here, like.. whether I pay for Game Pass again for this, Horizon 5, as well as a few other games.. ..or if I just stick with Horizon 3 and 4, and Motorsport 7, that I have and can play on PC, and the first Horizon and Motorsport 4 on the 360. | |
| The Lamborghini Reventón is back, but no picture was provided in the update info. | |
| @carknower The original message was edited by J-2 as J-2 replied them. So what you see is not representative of the original. -- Last edit: 2024-04-15 19:03:46 | |
| J-2 a écrit Please refrain from using vulgar language, thank you. The only one who uses vulgar language here is you,, or do you hate these legendary cars ? -- Last edit: 2024-04-15 16:40:58 | |
| AMCGremlinandPacer a écrit No chances of any AMC Gremlin and Pacer and 1951/1952 Fabulous Hudson Hornet... Please refrain from using vulgar language, thank you. | |
| No chances of any AMC Gremlin and Pacer and 1951/1952 Fabulous Hudson Hornet... -- Last edit: 2024-03-31 01:34:51 (J-2) | |
| J-2 a écrit I respect your view, but sadly, after a few other tries of playing it, I'm raising my bar to I just plain hate this game, don't care about what does best anymore, it's like saying the Titanic while breaking in half still looked elegant. Tried to make a race in Silverstone a few minutes ago, in order to get the Acura 'prize' car. Way too many loading screens, too much info before starting the race, the practise laps suddenly start in a place within the track you better recognize fast before you start driving, then the race, starts out of nowhere, no countdown, without time to react, sound gets stuck 10 seconds even when paused. Tracks keeps disappearing. I get so many penalties for getting off course I end up finishing 12th. Restart the race? You will be selecting again your place in the grid, checking all the driver's info again, all the loading screens...just wanted to restart the race, not the whole event to be reconfigured from scratch, so I better turn on rewind. Still cannot import my FH5 stuff (at this point I don't feel like doing new stuff on this game altogether) and maybe the stuff I already shared has been stolen, since downloaded skins and tunes might do so unlocked, so people can do as they please. Game's a joke, that's it. I look back at FM2-3-4-5-6 and 7, especially in the golden days of FM4 when I was still doing the shots for IGCD, and I just want to cry, they murdered the franchise. So much is broken, even at design level, I don't think this can be fixed even if they care and try, looks like it was made by a bad AI prompted by some accountants that only want to make money, but forgot that quality means sales first. I might be too negative, but honestly, I can't find a redeeming feature in this mess. FM5 again was really poundered 10 years ago because of the lack of content, reviews show that. I defended it, thought people were unfair, I too missed a lot of things that never returned, not only then, but even today, but the game was enjoyable, felt complete, solid, stable, felt put together nicely. Looked amazing, played amazing. Now, every time I think about giving this another try, I just feel overwhelmed, as doing a chore you need to do, but don't want to. You shouldn't feel that with any game, and personally, feeling that, with a Forza title, is something I'm still trying to process, I just can't believe this is happening... I totaly agree. Car list is not too bad than Forza Motorsport 5. but luck of cars yet.also too many racing cars.Turn 10 is focus the racing cars. -- Last edit: 2024-03-07 02:17:53 | |
| J-2 a écrit I respect your view, but sadly, after a few other tries of playing it, I'm raising my bar to I just plain hate this game, don't care about what does best anymore, it's like saying the Titanic while breaking in half still looked elegant. Tried to make a race in Silverstone a few minutes ago, in order to get the Acura 'prize' car. Way too many loading screens, too much info before starting the race, the practise laps suddenly start in a place within the track you better recognize fast before you start driving, then the race, starts out of nowhere, no countdown, without time to react, sound gets stuck 10 seconds even when paused. Tracks keeps disappearing. I get so many penalties for getting off course I end up finishing 12th. Restart the race? You will be selecting again your place in the grid, checking all the driver's info again, all the loading screens...just wanted to restart the race, not the whole event to be reconfigured from scratch, so I better turn on rewind. Still cannot import my FH5 stuff (at this point I don't feel like doing new stuff on this game altogether) and maybe the stuff I already shared has been stolen, since downloaded skins and tunes might do so unlocked, so people can do as they please. Game's a joke, that's it. I look back at FM2-3-4-5-6 and 7, especially in the golden days of FM4 when I was still doing the shots for IGCD, and I just want to cry, they murdered the franchise. So much is broken, even at design level, I don't think this can be fixed even if they care and try, looks like it was made by a bad AI prompted by some accountants that only want to make money, but forgot that quality means sales first. I might be too negative, but honestly, I can't find a redeeming feature in this mess. FM5 again was really poundered 10 years ago because of the lack of content, reviews show that. I defended it, thought people were unfair, I too missed a lot of things that never returned, not only then, but even today, but the game was enjoyable, felt complete, solid, stable, felt put together nicely. Looked amazing, played amazing. Now, every time I think about giving this another try, I just feel overwhelmed, as doing a chore you need to do, but don't want to. You shouldn't feel that with any game, and personally, feeling that, with a Forza title, is something I'm still trying to process, I just can't believe this is happening... Forza turned into a zombie franchise since the last updates of FH4 - it's all just new cars (that you can't get anyway). Besides all they do now is remove cars from previous titles just to bring them back as DLC or those stupid seasonal rewards. FM2 only had THREE cars you couldn't buy from the dealer, and those were just variations of existing ones. | |
| speedfreak975 a écrit I dont necessarily think this game does everything worse, thats inaccurate. Rivals is better, Qol done there is great. MP is leagues ahead but still needs work. Core gameplay itself is miles ahead of any of their previous games. Game has solid infrastructure to work on and improve. Ai has pace but racecraft is non existent that needs alot of work. what they've been doing for last 6 years, not sure. Visually game suffers with bugs and oddities with materials and lighting. Hence why no entries yet. Artistic direction is weird. Game lacks sharpness and vividness all previous Forzas have. Reflections can be stronger. Ive taken few test shots, game can look very good under some conditions. But I'd rather wait for 1st few major updates game gets hopefully visual inconsistencies and specific car bugs are ironed out. Until then I'm buying all the cars (I'm aware you can rent, not a fan of sticking to default color options) I respect your view, but sadly, after a few other tries of playing it, I'm raising my bar to I just plain hate this game, don't care about what does best anymore, it's like saying the Titanic while breaking in half still looked elegant. Tried to make a race in Silverstone a few minutes ago, in order to get the Acura 'prize' car. Way too many loading screens, too much info before starting the race, the practise laps suddenly start in a place within the track you better recognize fast before you start driving, then the race, starts out of nowhere, no countdown, without time to react, sound gets stuck 10 seconds even when paused. Tracks keeps disappearing. I get so many penalties for getting off course I end up finishing 12th. Restart the race? You will be selecting again your place in the grid, checking all the driver's info again, all the loading screens...just wanted to restart the race, not the whole event to be reconfigured from scratch, so I better turn on rewind. Still cannot import my FH5 stuff (at this point I don't feel like doing new stuff on this game altogether) and maybe the stuff I already shared has been stolen, since downloaded skins and tunes might do so unlocked, so people can do as they please. Game's a joke, that's it. I look back at FM2-3-4-5-6 and 7, especially in the golden days of FM4 when I was still doing the shots for IGCD, and I just want to cry, they murdered the franchise. So much is broken, even at design level, I don't think this can be fixed even if they care and try, looks like it was made by a bad AI prompted by some accountants that only want to make money, but forgot that quality means sales first. I might be too negative, but honestly, I can't find a redeeming feature in this mess. FM5 again was really poundered 10 years ago because of the lack of content, reviews show that. I defended it, thought people were unfair, I too missed a lot of things that never returned, not only then, but even today, but the game was enjoyable, felt complete, solid, stable, felt put together nicely. Looked amazing, played amazing. Now, every time I think about giving this another try, I just feel overwhelmed, as doing a chore you need to do, but don't want to. You shouldn't feel that with any game, and personally, feeling that, with a Forza title, is something I'm still trying to process, I just can't believe this is happening... | |
| I dont necessarily think this game does everything worse, thats inaccurate. Rivals is better, Qol done there is great. MP is leagues ahead but still needs work. Core gameplay itself is miles ahead of any of their previous games. Game has solid infrastructure to work on and improve. Ai has pace but racecraft is non existent that needs alot of work. what they've been doing for last 6 years, not sure. Visually game suffers with bugs and oddities with materials and lighting. Hence why no entries yet. Artistic direction is weird. Game lacks sharpness and vividness all previous Forzas have. Reflections can be stronger. Ive taken few test shots, game can look very good under some conditions. But I'd rather wait for 1st few major updates game gets hopefully visual inconsistencies and specific car bugs are ironed out. Until then I'm buying all the cars (I'm aware you can rent, not a fan of sticking to default color options) -- Last edit: 2023-10-26 20:51:17 | |
| TheGreaser a écrit J-2, who used to handle past Forzas, just could not bring himself to play it on PC (as I frequent GTPlanet). He's gotten countless problems with optimization and his passion is making authentic liveries, which I do like (and have used his full Blue Meanie Brock Commodore plenty of times), but with this entry he has had nothing but serious problems with importing designs. The bug list is the size of Prometheus and many Shakespeare works combined, worse than FH5 of all things. Exactly right. Right now, 3 main issues are: 1-FH5 import is broken, will not sync designs and/or vinyl groups, funnily enough any other Forza titles work, so I was at least able to import old designs from FM7 and before, but sadly I started work on a complete Nissan R391 with a Le Mans livery in FH5 before the game was released. Spent hours doing really hard logos with little to none real life references to look at, and I'm not redoing them in FM just because they can't make it work, which connects to the 2nd issue: 2-The editor lacks ALL of the improvements made to FH5, the UI in FH5 is very visual and quick to work with, you can access options really quickly, the vertical layer view is nice, the car can be seen around nicely with great lightning and control over the camera. In FM23 they just took the one from FM7 and made it somehow worse, I don't like working there at all. The most simple things are now broken, a very good example extends for example to long lists. Let's say you're browsing the car catalog or your garage, you select manufacturer list view, and of course, if you want to go to the end in one click, simply hit LB to go backwards and start on z right? You can't now. You have to move forwards no matter what, and that was just a very specific and, in the big scheme of things, small issue, there are so many it makes my head spin. 3-Yet another issue to a feature I was looking for, now you can 'rent' any car of the game, paint it, and sell the design, so you don't go bankrupt trying to buy the needed cars first, and of course...it's broken. I successfully managed to try it twice, and after the 3rd time, after rebooting the game and the PC, after 2 patches...never got the feature to work ever again. Every time I select a car I don't own to paint, it just keeps loading in a loop. Not crashed, game is still working, but will not exit the loop, you need to restart the game. So yeah, long story short, I can't enjoy driving, painting, taking pics or even take a look at cars due to all the visual bugs and issues, poor shaders and rendering (the game looks bleached out) so game will wait until it lets me enjoy it, not the other way round. In fact, I could offer myself to start doing some pics if speedfreak975 agreed but so far I haven't been able to do a single satisfactory picture. So yeah, not looking good for now I'm afraid, game feels somehow rushed after all these development years, and at this point maybe is a good idea to actually start over and throw this to the bin, it's Titanic being patched one rivet at a time while it sinks, there are worse games out there? Definitely. As a Forza game, this is the worst one? Hands down. In every single way. | |
| TheGreaser a écrit Granted, that would be expected considering the game hasn't been globally released yet, only in early access. I will agree with you on that note, but what of timed events? We have an Acura that's locked behind the timegate, and by the time they sort out the visual maladies, the car won't be available anymore, and we'd have to wait for months. Not to mention that they totally lied to us about the cars we were getting. Why can't we drive the 935, Oreca 07 that was clearly shown in pre-release material, only to suddenly withdraw it for no apparent reason and screw us over. This BS with modern gaming needs to stop. 1. He’s still playing the game, just not taking photos yet 2. License issues, I’d presume | |
| speedfreak975 a écrit The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes. Yes, the graphics and the upgrade system is really garbage in this game, that silly misty haze that covers every track at daytime is just terrible, and the overall graphics are so blurry and last gen-ish, almost looks like a PS2 or PS3 game, and not a next gen game, looks terrible to be honest. FM7 and FH5 looks miles better than this, and the upgrade car levelling system will kill the game before the end of the year since no one will have the patience to drive every single car for 100:s of miles just to upgrade the anti-roll bars or tyres  Total bone head system -- Last edit: 2023-10-07 16:54:12 | |
| The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes. | |
| Solarriors a écrit The car list could have easily reached over the 1000 cars finally, even without the buggies and so, somehow they decided to cut all of it in half... I don't understand it. Gotta save some as DLC.  | |
| The car list could have easily reached over the 1000 cars finally, even without the buggies and so, somehow they decided to cut all of it in half... I don't understand it. | |
| Bit of a mixed bag honestly. There's a lot of major omissions. Also, this is not really this game's fault, but I see a lot of cars that could have made their way into Horizon 5, but haven't for some reason. | |
| Finished adding all placeholders for all available cars at lauch. Every single car seen in previous media, but currently not accesible is set as Unplayable until a way to obtain them is revealed. | |
| With so many cars, tracks and features being removed with every update, i doubt there will be anything left to release when the release date comes close ??? | |
| Looks many fancy cars.Good than Forza Motorsport 7. Director is changed. I think many things fixed from Forza Motorsport 7. I hopefully Alfa Romeo,Fiat is coming back. Stellantis unprepared to license to Forza series. -- Last edit: 2023-06-17 23:24:05 | |
| The really crappy part is the six pulled cars are majority of the new models and the ones I actually wanted to try. | |
| Forza have just decided to pull these six cars from the base game and charge them as a DLC. - Audi R8 LMS GT3 #44, 2018 - Dallara Cadillac DPi-V.R #31 Whelen Racing, 2021 - Ginetta G60-LT-P1 #6 Team LNT Ginetta, 2019 - Oreca 07 Gibson #38 Jackie Chan DC Racing, 2017 - Porsche 956 #11 John Fitzpatrick Racing, 1983 - Porsche 935 #70 Porsche Motorsport, 2019 | |
| Hope most cars won`t understeer for miles in every corner anymore, like they did in FM7 and that the rest of the cars won`t spin out every time you lift off the throttle, like many cars did in FM7 | |
| ThePorsche934.5 a écrit I hope this game will manage to stay with the expectations and will not turns to be a shitshow as we've seen in Gran Turismo 7... Well, by the time is released they will had spent 6 years making it, which is unheard of in a Forza title, so expectations should be reasonably high. | |
| I hope this game will manage to stay with the expectations and will not turns to be a shitshow as we've seen in Gran Turismo 7... -- Last edit: 2022-06-14 18:48:34 | |
| Other car spotted in trailer (according to Forza.net): 2018 Acura #36 Gradient Racing NSX GT3 2020 Acura #6 ARX-05 DPi 1958 Aston Martin DBR1 2017 Aston Martin Aston Martin Racing V12 Vantage GT3 #7 2018 Audi #44 R8 LMS GT3 2021 Audi RS e-tron GT 2017 BMW #24 BMW Team RLL M6 GTLM 2018 BMW #1 BMW M Motorsport M8 GTE 2019 Brabham BT62 2021 Cadillac #31 Whelen Racing DPi-V.R 1966 Chaparral #66 Chaparral Cars 2E 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Super Sport Coupe 2020 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C8.R 2020 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Coupé 1969 Dodge Charger R/T 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 1967 Eagle-Weslake T1G 1967 Ferrari #24 Ferrari Spa 330 P4 1966 Ford #2 GT40 Mk II Le Mans 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302 2018 Formula Drift #64 Nissan 370Z 2020 Formula Drift #151 Toyota GR Supra 2019 Ginetta #6 Team LNT Ginetta G60-LT-P1 1967 Honda RA300 2020 Koenigsegg Jesko 2018 Lamborghini #63 Squadra Corse Huracán Super Trofeo Evo 2020 Lamborghini Huracan EVO 1991 Mazda #55 Mazda 787B 1966 McLaren M2B 2019 McLaren Senna GTR 2018 Mercedes-AMG GT3 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator 2016 NIO EP9 2019 Nissan 370Z Nismo 2020 Nissan GT-R NISMO (R35) 2017 Porsche #911 Porsche GT Team 911 RSR 2021 Porsche 911 GT3 | |
| After 2 years without any more information, the gameplay demo of the new Forza Motorsport is finally out www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hrsYu8Vy04 -- Last edit: 2022-06-13 03:04:10 | |
| carknower a écrit Not for Xbox one, meh... Just because its not for an older console with less power, it wont be any good. It shouldnt be just a "meh" | |
| Leaked Trailer On July 23, 2020. | |
| Not for Xbox one, meh... | |
| Ahh man, I like PS5 more but since I'm a racing lover and had great times with Forza on Xbox 360, I really don't know what to do... I missed all Forza games on Xbox One and only had fun with NFS Heat recently 😕 | |
| TheGreaser a écrit If anything - I'd be the one that would know what could be in the new Forza Motorsport: -The GTPlanet article mentioned that there would be an ability to select any car, without buying them, which is akin to PC1-PC2. -They also mentioned that there would be dynamic track temperature - which in other words - we'll see the possibility of actual dynamic weather (maybe more weather conditions) and time. Seems like they're also going to go for realism - another tenet of PCARS. -The possibility of licensed songs (FM3 imo had the best songs, like Rise Against) -Go back to the style of FM4's career mode, and offer up challenges -Get rid of the cheating Drivatar AI -Get rid of mods, burncards and prize crates -Have a superior livery editor, and not the same crap we've seen for literally 5-6 previous Forzas! -I would also consider dynamic vehicle deterioration - when racing for miles, the cars break down based on atmospheric elements -Functional dashboard pieces (not static)  -Have dynamic track changes and seasons (depending on climate type) - Remove all those clothing, emotes and horns from the wheelspin. Seriously, 95% of the time I spin the wheel I end up with some sort of useless hat I'll never wear or a melody horn. That's not what people spin the wheel for! They want credits or cars! Put that other stuff in a shop or something. - Improve Anna so she actually leads you directly to your destination and not as far as the legal roads go. Also annoyed that she priortizes drift zones. She automatically makes their end the new destination when entering them, and removes the route to your original destination completely. Forzathons should also ask to join and not automatically started just because they happen to be on the way to your destination and you drive through them. | |
| From what I've heard, XSX games will also be available on X1 platforms as well. Keep in mind, that's what I've heard. | |
| TheGreaser a écrit If anything - I'd be the one that would know what could be in the new Forza Motorsport: -The GTPlanet article mentioned that there would be an ability to select any car, without buying them, which is akin to PC1-PC2. -They also mentioned that there would be dynamic track temperature - which in other words - we'll see the possibility of actual dynamic weather (maybe more weather conditions) and time. Seems like they're also going to go for realism - another tenet of PCARS. -The possibility of licensed songs (FM3 imo had the best songs, like Rise Against) -Go back to the style of FM4's career mode, and offer up challenges -Get rid of the cheating Drivatar AI -Get rid of mods, burncards and prize crates -Have a superior livery editor, and not the same crap we've seen for literally 5-6 previous Forzas! -I would also consider dynamic vehicle deterioration - when racing for miles, the cars break down based on atmospheric elements -Functional dashboard pieces (not static) -Have dynamic track changes and seasons (depending on climate type) Licensed songs? Isn't Forza never made their own music like Need For Speed? And functional dashboard pieces,are you talking about something like Rolls Royce's opening head unit? | |
| TheGreaser a écrit If anything - I'd be the one that would know what could be in the new Forza Motorsport: -The GTPlanet article mentioned that there would be an ability to select any car, without buying them, which is akin to PC1-PC2. -They also mentioned that there would be dynamic track temperature - which in other words - we'll see the possibility of actual dynamic weather (maybe more weather conditions) and time. Seems like they're also going to go for realism - another tenet of PCARS. -The possibility of licensed songs (FM3 imo had the best songs, like Rise Against) -Go back to the style of FM4's career mode, and offer up challenges -Get rid of the cheating Drivatar AI -Get rid of mods, burncards and prize crates -Have a superior livery editor, and not the same crap we've seen for literally 5-6 previous Forzas! -I would also consider dynamic vehicle deterioration - when racing for miles, the cars break down based on atmospheric elements -Functional dashboard pieces (not static) -Have dynamic track changes and seasons (depending on climate type) I think you are talking mostly about new features and the improvements, though I did stated that they could borrow some of the older features and improves them from the past games I hope they get a better livery editor and More options for tracks wether condition, a dynamic weather is a must now, it would be a stupid move if they left this out | |
| faultier a écrit Forza 7 had a great carlist and more cars then Forza 4. Sonetimes people should just accept facts .gif ":)") Of course no one can deny that, all I a, saying is that I miss the Forza 4 car list because there are nice cars that were cut, and I would love to see some return, starting from the lowest cars is what made Forza 4 special imo | |
| Adding new cars and tracks, fictionals ones, adding challenges and career I don't call that a reboot. It's just what should be in a base sim racer('s sequel) As said, reboot seems just to be a marketing term to "give me a second chance, I'll be as you used to remember me" if it was dating Every FM was an expansion of the previous one, like FM4 felt so naturally FM3.75 and same with FM5/6/7 It feels they also just want to pertain to another audience especially casual racers and women as in sim racing isn't just about male car enthusiasts. Truth is, just see IGCDs population Also I'm suspecting FM is pulling a move like GT Sport, hence the lack of number. They always wanted GT and FM to have the same number, and since PD didn't release a 7, they postpone their 8 (hate  ) -- Last edit: 2020-07-25 23:52:28 | |
| Forza 7 had a great carlist and more cars then Forza 4. Sonetimes people should just accept facts | |
| generalrusty78 a écrit Why guess they wanted to make a squeal, but they didn't wanted to call it 7 or whatever number it's one now Or maybe they wanted to represent the new Forza, and take some of the older ones ideas and recreate them with the reboot, with some additional ideas and improvements Many people said they preferred the older Forza careers (and imo I agree with that statement) For me those are what I miss from the old Forzas: Forza 4: Career style, car lists, tracks Forza 3: not so much, if I’m missing any you can point it, but Forza 3 didn’t leave much memories to me Forza 2: the soundtrack choices, the time attack licenses were so nice and I hope to see them appear at some point Forza 1: the tracks, the fictional tracks they had for it were so good, I would not mind if they want to remake them So if this new Forza will take some elements and features from the older games, it will be day one purchase for me a reboot nowadays seems to be a thing as of lately -- Last edit: 2020-07-25 22:40:06 | |
| Solarriors a écrit I'm not saying if/why But what is a reboot for a sim-racer? And what is the idea for FM I guess they wanted to make a squeal, but they didn't want to call it 7 or whatever number it's one now -- Last edit: 2020-07-25 22:37:01 | |
| Solarriors a écrit I'm not saying if/why But what is a reboot for a sim-racer? And what is the idea for FM Exactly my point as well. | |
| I'm not saying if/why But what is a reboot for a sim-racer? And what is the idea for FM | |
| Solarriors a écrit I don't even know why you need a reboot and what a reboot means for simracers in the first place. Why not? | |
| I don't even know why you need a reboot and what a reboot means for simracers in the first place. |
