1980 Trabant 601

	Surname: Soapdish Extra info: Universal Chassis: P601 Class: Wagon Origin: East Germany Playable vehicle

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Kirov-MG 2015-07-21 11:08	JFK wrote That is true. It would be harder to find it on site, because everyone knows Trabant as a "brand" and not "model". Also, nothing apart from "S" in a circle badge wouldnt suggest that it is made by company called different than Trabant. But it is definatly a mistake. And last note to Kombi/Universal - for me it will be always Universal, for you it will be always Kombi, and we wouldnt agree on it to end of universe. "S" in circle badge for "Sachsenring Automobilwerke". VEB Sachsenring Automobilwerke - full name of carplant which produce trabants. VEB - from "Volkseigener Betrieb" (ger. "Peoples plant"). All plants in DDR was a state-owned and all of it was marked as "VEB [enter the name of maker]". About Universal-Combi, it can be explained by the fact, that in Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Romania and Hungary Trabants was exported as a part of one 601 model (after 1968, as i read in some manuals). To Poland this car was exported under those DDR-origin name. To Soviet Union Trabants was officialy never exported. So, most weastern peoples first see Trabant not in East Germany, but in Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia.
JFK 2015-07-20 23:52	Kirov-MG wrote And the greatest mistake - Trabant - is a model. Make is VEB Sachsenring. Correctly to badge all of Trabant on this site as "VEB Trabant 601". That is true. It would be harder to find it on site, because everyone knows Trabant as a "brand" and not "model". Also, nothing apart from "S" in a circle badge wouldnt suggest that it is made by company called different than Trabant. But it is definatly a mistake. And last note to Kombi/Universal - for me it will be always Universal, for you it will be always Kombi, and we wouldnt agree on it to end of universe.
Kirov-MG 2015-07-20 23:13	JFK wrote Interesting. In one of my dad´s car magazine from 1970s, this car was called Universal. In second-hand car sales is this car refered as Universal. In german wikipedia, which is most accurate, since Trabant is from DDR, is this car called Universal. In IMCDb is this car called Universal. Kombi version of the succesor Trabant 1.1 is also called everywhere Universal. Even the VAZ 2101 was here called Universal and not Kombi. I guess it changed with some year from Kombi to Universal, because when I google it, there are Universals everywhere. VAZ-2102 (VAZ-2101 is sedan) originaly marked as Universal, like soviet GAZ-22 and GAZ-24-02 (universal versions of GAZ-21 Volga and GAZ-24). Combi in USSR was Izh-1500 and this was aсtually hatchback but not universal (in USSR Combi (рус. Комби) = Hatchback. Same situation was in some other eastern-block states. In german language, universal = combi (kombi). Anyway, Trabant 601 Combi - is a name but not a type of the vehicle. Named Trabant Combi as "Trabant Universal" - is like to badged Ford LTD as "Ford sedan" for example. And i find some polish owner's manual for Trabant vehicles (1980's). Trabant 601 Combi is marked "Trabant 601 Combi". And the greatest mistake - Trabant - is a model. Make is VEB Sachsenring. Correctly to badge all of Trabant on this site as "VEB Trabant 601". -- Last edit: 2015-07-20 23:36:01
JFK 2015-07-20 23:01	Interesting. In one of my dad´s car magazine from 1970s, this car was called Universal. In second-hand car sales is this car refered as Universal. In german wikipedia, which is most accurate, since Trabant is from DDR, is this car called Universal. In IMCDb is this car called Universal. Kombi version of the succesor Trabant 1.1 is also called everywhere Universal. Even the VAZ 2101 was here called Universal and not Kombi. I guess it changed with some year from Kombi to Universal, because when I google it, there are Universals everywhere.
Kirov-MG 2015-07-20 22:00	Universal - is a body-type. 601 Combi (sometimes "Kombi") - not a type but name of this car. Well, the czech leflet marked this car as "Trabant 601 Combi": Anyway, in soviet block countries some hatchback-cars was badged as "Kombi" too. P.S. and yes, on IGCD we can see mistakes, whick became a standart. For example, soviet tank T-34-85 always marked as produced by KhPZ, but in real life KhPZ never produce this vehicle. Someone made a mistake in determining the vehicle - another one copy after him. That's a mistake, and has become the standard. -- Last edit: 2015-07-20 22:01:33
JFK 2015-07-20 20:45	Hmm, all kombi Trabants are here listed as Universals, so it would be confusing to list it as Kombi instead. I never heard about different badging though. www.jan-tucek.wz.cz/reklama/trabant/Trabant%20601%20Universal%20-%201969.jpg Even former Yugoslavia was calling it Universal, and that was an eastern country. EDIT: Origin is not Germany, but East Germany - DDR. -- Last edit: 2015-07-20 20:47:14
Kirov-MG 2015-07-20 20:38	JFK wrote Yup. Kombi is called Universal, so it is Trabant 601 Universal Universal - is a US\Western Europe class of vehicles. Konbi - is a simular class on old german (pre-1945 and GDR-era) and soviet. Well, Kombi is more correct to Trabant.
sajmon14 2015-07-19 20:50	soapdish is a Polish nickname for the Trabant
JFK 2015-07-19 13:39	Yup. Kombi is called Universal, so it is Trabant 601 Universal
Kirov-MG 2015-07-19 13:08	Trabant 601 Kombi
civic_eg6_94 2015-07-19 11:39	Isn't it a Trabant Wagon instead of a Nomad?

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