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Forza Motorsport 4, Racing, 2011

Developer: Turn 10 Studios

Publisher: Microsoft Studios

Damageable vehicles: Yes

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2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo [958]

2012 Porsche Cayman R [987]

2010 Porsche Panamera Turbo [970]

2008 Porsche RS Spyder Evo

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Antti-san (38) 2011-05-27 04:11	J-2 wrote 1965 Ford Mustang GT Coupe 2011 Koenigsegg Agera 1997 Lexus SC300 2011 RUF RGT-8 2011 Tesla Roadster Sport Am I right to assume that these come with every new copy of the game like the Motorsports Legends DLC in Forza 3? Also, I'm hoping that we get both Porsche and RUF - that would be the best of both worlds. If not, then there should be some kind of law that prevents greedy publishers from monopolising car licenses... EDIT: This is completely trivial, but anybody else think that the new cover looks like it was made in 5 minutes? At least they could have gotten rid of that unattractive (IMO) Forza 3 logo... -- Last edit: 2011-05-27 04:25:15
Pablo1989 (12) 2011-06-09 19:43	Jeremy from TG gonna explain all cars in game
Antti-san (38) 2011-07-03 19:30	Even though I don't really like the idea of limited editions, I guess I have no choice but to bite the bullet and buy the collector's edition because it seems to have at least 20 exclusive cars this time. I know they might offer them as DLC later on, but I'd rather have them from day one just to be sure... -- Last edit: 2011-07-04 05:00:53
fontheking5 (0) 2011-08-17 20:16	Looks like a really nice game , but do anyone know if any Volvos will be included in the game ? -- Last edit: 2011-08-20 23:20:27
BeanBandit (1) 2011-08-18 19:10	PV 544 Sport & Amazon 123 GT.
J-2 (1397) 2011-08-19 02:14	If the Jalopnik theory is correct, and it seems to be, we might be getting a lot more nice cars
ShantJ (9) 2011-08-19 03:23	J-2 wrote If the Jalopnik theory is correct, and it seems to be, we might be getting a lot more nice cars I hope so! Oh, and I uploaded the Aston. it needs to be approved.
Antti-san (38) 2011-08-20 23:56	Anybody here watching the ALMS race? They showed a nice clip from Forza 4, driving a lap around the Road America circuit. EDIT: Here's the video: -- Last edit: 2011-08-21 05:25:03
shaymin82 (1) 2011-08-23 08:15	Ferrari FF and Hummer H1 Aplha confirmed!!! -- Last edit: 2011-08-23 20:46:36
J-2 (1397) 2011-08-24 01:21	The GMC Syclone has been finally confirmed as well
Antti-san (38) 2011-08-25 02:19	Seems there's no Porsche after all, and only three RUFs... forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood1/
J-2 (1397) 2011-08-25 02:39	Damn EA. Those selfish bast****! At least we had 3 Forzas with plenty of Porsche...but i will miss them very much -- Last edit: 2011-08-25 02:39:32
Antti-san (38) 2011-08-25 02:47	This'll put a huge dent into the ALMS content too...
carcrasher88 (20) 2011-08-25 03:13	Here's another bad thing about no Porsches in Forza 4: www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=4130 No 991. >:-(
J-2 (1397) 2011-08-25 03:28	The "good" part is, since Microsoft holds the rights for Ferrari, i´m sure no NFS game will ever see a Ferrari again. It´s actually happening right now, since Shift 2 and The Run don´t have them. And if you ask me, though i love Porsche, i prefer losing it rather than Ferrari.
pase188 (0) 2011-08-25 15:23	www.petitionspot.com/petitions/PorscheXinXForza if you like Fora and want porsches in! we need every voice! JOIN.... JOIN.... JOIN i have to say, i dont think it will help, but it shows how much we want this!
J-2 (1397) 2011-08-25 18:39	I´m in
J-2 (1397) 2011-08-25 22:39	The 2002 Suzuki Liana has been confirmed! Top Gear fans will be even more pleased.
shaymin82 (1) 2011-08-26 09:13	J-2 wrote The 2002 Suzuki Liana has been confirmed! Top Gear fans will be even more pleased. Definitely! I can't wait to get around the TG test track now! They better announce the Chevrolet Lacetti next :P
Rinspeed (1249) 2011-08-26 09:52	shaymin82 wrote Definitely! I can't wait to get around the TG test track now! They better announce the Chevrolet Lacetti next :P Sorry but i don't understand why people like TG test track. If you hadn't see the TV Show (like me), it's a really annoying track (i had play it in GT5). It's just a "8" track without nothing else.
shaymin82 (1) 2011-08-26 14:45	Rinspeed wrote Sorry but i don't understand why people like TG test track. If you hadn't see the TV Show (like me), it's a really annoying track (i had play it in GT5). It's just a "8" track without nothing else. It's kind of iconic for me, I've grown up around Top Gear and the test track and around Xbox over PlayStation, so this is the first game I'll be able to play that includes the TG test track (apart from TG Stunt School HD on the iPad) -- Last edit: 2011-08-26 14:46:53
Camergan (0) 2011-08-26 20:05	To all the whiners whining about no Porsches in FM4: your squeaky voices will be ignored, no matter how much you whine. Why? Because competition arose between EA (NFS:Shift) and MS (FM) in the racing sim department, and in competition, you would want every single edge on your opponent. Porsche is the "edge" on EA's side and I don't think they will give it out to the opponent (MS) anytime soon. Plus, you already have awesome Lambos, a truckload of Ferraris and a whole lot of other performance cars (given FM's emphasis on exotic stuff), not to mention these 35 empty spaces that were once Porsches will be replaced with other, probably even better cars. In other words: why care about Porsches when you have a truckload more supercars? (unless you think "No Porsche - no sale", in this case: too goddamn bad) -- Last edit: 2011-08-26 20:07:25
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-08-26 20:09	I think it's more about the principle of it - yes it makes sense from a business point of view, but both parties collaborated before without issue.
Camergan (0) 2011-08-26 20:24	Star Wars Fanatic wrote I think it's more about the principle of it - yes it makes sense from a business point of view, but both parties collaborated before without issue. Here's the thing. Before Shift 2, there was no distinct competition between NFS and FM because of different "weight categories" (NFS = arcade, FM = sim), that's why EA could lend them their Porsche license and (theoretically) make short-term profit while not having much of long-term loss. But shortly after Shift 2 was announced, not only was it separated from the rest of the series, but the producers also said they're competing with GT and FM. They've pretty much declared war on FM (same as competition), and the rest is in my last post. -- Last edit: 2011-08-26 20:25:31
Antti-san (38) 2011-08-26 23:12	Camergan: Expect comparing the Shift games to Forza series is like comparing Britney Spears to Ronnie James Dio. How many Porsches did Shift 2 have? Eleven compared to over 30 in Forza 3. Unlike Forza 3, Shift 2 doesn't have classics like the 550 or 962. With the exception of Porsche Unleashed which was released over a decade ago EA have mainly wasted their license on 2 Fast 2 Furious wannabes. And no, 35 Porsches cannot be "replaced", just like you couldn't replace 35 Ferraris or 35 Lamborghinis. I love RUF, but still, RUF can't replace Porsche. In short, I guess you'll just have to excuse us for our "squeaky, whiny" voices.
Camergan (0) 2011-08-26 23:50	Antti-san wrote Camergan: Expect comparing the Shift games to Forza series is like comparing Britney Spears to Ronnie James Dio. Comparing Ridge Racer to iRacing is like comparing Britney Spears to Ronnie James Dio. IMO, S2U and FM3 were pretty close, don't know about this one though. Antti-san wrote How many Porsches did Shift 2 have? Eleven compared to over 30 in Forza 3. Unlike Forza 3, Shift 2 doesn't have classics like the 550 or 962. I guess that's one of the main reasons why they (EA) have pulled the plug on the sublicense.
Antti-san (38) 2011-08-26 23:59	Camergan wrote I guess that's one of the main reasons why they (EA) have pulled the plug on the sublicense. So it's T10's fault that EA haven't properly utilised their license, even though EA have owned the Porsche license from way before the Forza series even existed? -- Last edit: 2011-08-27 00:13:37
Antti-san (38) 2011-08-27 11:42	The achievements have been revealed: www.xbox360achievements.org/game/forza-motorsport-4/achievements/
dodge1970 (9) 2011-08-27 16:05	Achievement: Star in a Reasonably Priced Car! Complete a lap of the Top Gear test track in the Kia Cee'd. Best. Achievement. Ever.
MartinBond (4) 2011-08-28 02:55	Another achievement: "Outta Time 10G Reach 88 mph in a DeLorean. They truly have gone mád, AND I LOVE IT!
Antti-san (38) 2011-08-28 02:56	Project Gotham Racing 4 had a similar achievement, remember?
MartinBond (4) 2011-08-28 03:01	I never played that game to be honest. first time i had it, my xBox scratched it, and the second time I bought the disc my xBox said OMNOMNOMNOM and broke it, so I don't have the courage yet to buy a copy for the third time... But still, even though I was réally p*ssed about not having my 911 Sport Classic and 550 Spyder, that one and the SIARPC-achievements really cracked me up..!
Antti-san (38) 2011-08-28 03:12	That's too bad, it's still a very good arcade racer IMO. Maybe third time's the charm?
shaymin82 (1) 2011-08-28 10:54	Antti-san wrote That's too bad, it's still a very good arcade racer IMO. Maybe third time's the charm? Third time lucky I've never played PGR 4 either, couldn't feel for it after how terrible PGR 3 was!
Pablo1989 (12) 2011-08-31 14:07	www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rzUNdXPGOf4 :P Clarkson talks about.....Warthog
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-02 00:58	Some sad things now official: -NO night racing. -NO weather. -Le Mans´s Bugatti track, Rally de Positano and Sidewinder Proving Grounds are gone. But there´s a reason for every point. Believe me
.:TruenoLevin2000:. (4) 2011-09-02 12:52	J-2 wrote Some sad things now official: -NO night racing. -NO weather. -Le Mans´s Bugatti track, Rally de Positano and Sidewinder Proving Grounds are gone. But there´s a reason for every point. Believe me GT5 is so much better, you see..
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2011-09-02 14:16	They better be good reasons...
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-02 17:07	.:TruenoLevin2000:. wrote GT5 is so much better, you see.. It isn´t.
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-02 17:55	They seem to be twin brothers or something...
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-02 20:35	Infineon Raceway, and a party of Muscle cars! Just hear the cars...like the GT40 at the end
Antti-san (38) 2011-09-02 20:42	Great to see Infineon in Forza, I loved that track in GT4!
Mad Mike (17) 2011-09-02 21:53	Oops. Didn't realise someone had already submitted the XB falcon, Stang II and mach 1. Moderator will have to delete them as opposed to approving them
.:TruenoLevin2000:. (4) 2011-09-03 19:08	J-2 wrote It isn´t. GT5 has night racing, weather... Forza doesn´t.
Ford78 (13) 2011-09-03 19:33	Yeah. For this reason, the GT5 is the best.
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-03 19:36	Just stop this. I´m tired of people going on game´s pages just for bashing them. You obviously have no criteria at all for juding games, for saying that a game its better just for having rain, so stop. -- Last edit: 2011-09-03 19:36:39
crown vic guy br (0) 2011-09-03 19:37	But you guys never played this game, how do you think that he is worse than GT5 ? Driver San Francisco don't have day-night cicle and weather and he is better than GTA IV (in my opinion). I'm a big fan from Gran Turismo series andd just bough a PS3 because of GT5, but i guess that Forza 4 gonna be awesome
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-03 19:41	Exactly. I mean, i respect all games, and i´ve played all GTs and all Forzas, and when i compare them...i don´t want to start a stupìd war (a nice discussion would be welcome) but this time seems that Forza won. In every aspect? No, but yes overally, by what i´ve read and saw. But, i´ll not say anything more, or even vote the game until i play it. Which is what everybody should do, play both, and choose. Or buy both and enjoy them. But be fair, please. Just look at the score, 5.1 and the game isn´t even release yet! So much hate... -- Last edit: 2011-09-03 19:41:45
.:TruenoLevin2000:. (4) 2011-09-03 19:46	I respect Forza in a way or other, I tried out the first game and I didn´t like it, though I liked the third, unfortunately I don´t have a 360! But in my opinion Gran Turismo is better, is more realistic! Forza may have detail on all cars, but they look plastic for me! With no offense in anyway. I didn´t vote.
ShantJ (9) 2011-09-09 06:54	A few more Toyotas added: forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Cars/ManufacturerList.aspx
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2011-09-12 06:21	Fiat Coupe is needed to be in this game.
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-12 23:53	The Audi RS2 is in! At least, a VERY proper SW in the series!
ShantJ (9) 2011-09-13 16:50	The manufacturer list has been discovered! www.forzacentral.com/forum/forza-motorsport-4/37204-full-fm4-manufacturer-list-revealed-rws-website.html#post635735
BeanBandit (1) 2011-09-13 19:52	Bertone (X1/9 ?), DeTomaso, Noble, Radical, Rossion, Wiesmann, and what is the one with the Bavarian crest? -- Last edit: 2011-09-13 19:59:13
carcrasher88 (20) 2011-09-13 20:48	What is it next to? Oh, and the Bertone is for the Mantide, not the X1/9, although that would be cool to have in Forza 4.
Antti-san (38) 2011-09-13 21:22	BeanBandit wrote Bertone (X1/9 ?), DeTomaso, Noble, Radical, Rossion, Wiesmann, and what is the one with the Bavarian crest? You mean Shelby Supercars? www.cartype.com/pics/3070/full/ssc_crest_logo.jpg
BeanBandit (1) 2011-09-14 00:09	Yes, that's the one. There's another I dont recognize, left of DMC DeLorean logo, round red one with something silver in it.
Antti-san (38) 2011-09-14 00:14	Devon Motorworks: igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=28620
ShantJ (9) 2011-09-15 07:02	Mitsubishi has been added to the website. forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Cars/Detail.aspx?id=2147483809
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2011-09-15 07:21	I'm assuming all Forzalopnik cars in the game. i hope the Subaru Alcyone SVX is in
ShantJ (9) 2011-09-15 07:53	I've added a couple of Mitsubishis and a Ferrari.
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-09-20 12:51	I will be playing Forza Motorsport 4, NFS The Run and Ridge Racer Unbounded this weekend at the Eurogamer Expo There's a possibility that I might get to interview some of the developers, but it's not confirmed yet. Anything you want me to ask or find out during my play sessions?
The_Dead 2011-09-20 16:30	Anything NASCAR?
crown vic guy br (0) 2011-09-20 18:20	Ask about the australian cars, if the new FPV GT Boss 335 and the Ford Falcon GTHO Phase III will be present in the game
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-09-20 18:21	Wasn't NASCAR already confirmed?
carcrasher88 (20) 2011-09-20 19:20	Probably only the three stock cars from Forza 3. Maybe what's being referred to is either the current cars, or just the addition of the Camry, to go along with the others from F3.
The_Dead 2011-09-21 11:00	Yeah, Forza 3 had Dodge, Chevy and Ford stock cars, outdated, even for the time Forza 3 came out. So, just bring up NASCAR and see what he says? Please.
Mad Mike (17) 2011-09-21 20:43	A couple of questions: - Has the '69 Charger Daytona made the cut into the 410 returning FM3 cars? (If they'll accept car specific questions) - Does disabling driver aids disable them for the AI drivers as-well? (If I make do without all that TCS, ABS, etc - the opponents should have to aswell) - Does the damage system feature more detachable panels over FM3? (fenders, hood, trunk, front clip, etc) Thanks SWF
Antti-san (38) 2011-09-22 16:32	Contents of the muscle car pack DLC have been revealed: www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-9640-Forza-Motorsport-4-Season-Pass-and-Day-One-DLC-Confirmed.html - 1965 Pontiac GTO - 1968 Pontiac Firebird - 1970 Buick GSX - 1970 Dodge Cornet Super Bee - 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS - 1969 Shelby GT500 428CJ - 1971 Plymouth GTX 426 Hemi - 1967 Dodge Cornet W023 - 1968 Dodge Dart HEMI Super Stock - 1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt EDIT: That was fast J-2! -- Last edit: 2011-09-22 16:49:20
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-22 17:24	Thanks
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2011-09-22 17:59	Is there really 56 more manufacturers to be revealed?
Antti-san (38) 2011-09-22 18:05	Well, you can see most of the manufacturers listed in this picture: i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/George_Simmons/FM4ManufacturerList.jpg Do the math!
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-22 18:06	And we´ll see even more new manufacturers via DLC. How many and which? Still unknown.
schaefft (0) 2011-09-22 20:36	I hope they add Lincoln and the Mark VIII LSC. If that happens and the 1990 Taurus SHO and 1996 Impala SS from the jalopnik vote get added, I got everything from them I could ever ask for.
Mad Mike (17) 2011-09-24 12:59	new pics are up for alot more cars. Added the '79 Camaro Z28, '90 Camaro IROC-Z, '69 Charger Daytona, '70 Elcamino and the new cars: '64 Impala SS and a '71 Camaro Z28 (may be any model from 70-73 buts 71 is my best guess from the front bumper and low image quality). Apologies for the chevy pics being so small for some reason but the other brands pics are all of a decent size. So we're getting 5 Chevy camaros and 5 firebirds from the 1st to 4th gen This is turning out to be one hell of a car list! Can find more pics here: www.xboxfront.de/news-2206-26389-Forza_Motorsport_4_Microsoft_Xbox_360.html
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2011-09-25 08:06	All Forza 3 cars returning.... without Porsches... so sad...
ShantJ (9) 2011-09-25 18:36	I added the Oldsmobile.
Tycek (169) 2011-09-25 19:52	Hell with Porsches, we got best car list ever here.
DodgeHemi426 (0) 2011-09-25 22:36	Don't want to start a fanboy war here but: Gran Turismos car list is crap compared to this :-))) Forza has less cars, yes, but quality goes over quantity in this case!
speed1230 (0) 2011-09-26 17:29	I play GT5 and I actually agree that the car list on Forza 4 is better. It has the boring cars I actually want to drive rather than the millions of Kei Cars on GT5 which I never wanted to drive
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2011-09-26 18:49	Antti-san wrote Well, you can see most of the manufacturers listed in this picture: i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/George_Simmons/FM4ManufacturerList.jpg Do the math! I am hoping for the 7 new manufactuers is: Porsche, Vanwall, Transtar, Fisker, Caterham, MG, and GTA Spano!
speed1230 (0) 2011-09-26 21:17	Ritsu Tainaka wrote I am hoping for the 7 new manufactuers is: Porsche, Vanwall, Transtar, Fisker, Caterham, MG, and GTA Spano! No, it is almost impossible for Porsche to make it to the list as Forza are unable to get it due to licencing issues (thank EA for that )
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-09-27 10:45	Unfortunately I didn't get to talk to anyone about Forza at the Expo but I did manage to play it. I did, however, talk to someone about Ridge Racer Unbounded so I will be posting it all up soon.
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2011-09-27 16:19	I guess we're hoping for the Huge Porsche DLC when the game is launched.
Tycek (169) 2011-09-27 20:34	I wouldn't count on it as long as EA will be blocking Porsche licence. They are probably think that Porsche is the manufacturer that convince players to buy NFS games.
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-28 16:35	Still some cars missing (unicorns like the Impreza S204, 1969 Camaro SS, Honda NSX-R GT...) but this is it. All cars added! Now, for the hard part...making the pics! Even with all the cars gone from FM3, FM4 will ship with even more cars FM3 had with all its DLC. And FM4 is supposed to have at least +630 cars by the end of its DLC!
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-09-28 17:02	Nice job! Is there a written car list anywhere and are there not any more daily car reveals due? -- Last edit: 2011-09-28 17:10:39
J-2 (1397) 2011-09-28 17:17	Yes, here you go: www.forzacentral.com/forum/forza-motorsport-4/37015-forza-motorsport-4-car-track-list-dlc-%5Bwip%5D-updated-september-28th.html And no, i think daily reveals are over. I´m just waiting the cars page to be updated, but being this close to the game release...
ShantJ (9) 2011-09-28 20:33	The 1970 Corolla was withheld for DLC. -_-
jus1029 (24) 2011-09-29 14:30	Does this game have the custom livery feature?
carcrasher88 (20) 2011-09-29 14:40	Yes. Not only does it return, it has been improved. Apparently, there will be the ability to collaborate with other online players (in a club, or something) to create paint jobs. The way it looks, it could mean custom paint jobs that are even higher quality than Forza 3, thanks to combined talent, able to let players access their strongpoints, letting others work on parts that one is not exactly great at. Should be interesting to see how this turns out.
ShantJ (9) 2011-09-30 05:28	I just added the Pantera.
The_Dead 2011-10-01 06:10	Anyone know how the profile transfering thing works? I own every F-S class car, and a lot of R3, R2 and R1 cars, plus I have 11 million dollars. I hope I dont just lose it all..
Antti-san (38) 2011-10-01 16:38	The_Dead wrote Anyone know how the profile transfering thing works? I own every F-S class car, and a lot of R3, R2 and R1 cars, plus I have 11 million dollars. I hope I dont just lose it all.. Look here: forzamotorsport.net/en-us/underthehood2/
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-03 16:41	TV Ad with the voice of Clarkson...one of the best commercials i´ve ever seen for a game. Period.
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2011-10-03 18:39	That's epic!!
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2011-10-03 22:26	Just downloaded the demo....My God, the graphics are amazing!!! You can only drive 5 cars though, the new BMW M5, the Ferrari 458 Italia, the Mercury Cougar Eliminator, the Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster and the 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI and only on the one track, the Swiss Alps.
dragonboy (16) 2011-10-04 00:37	I am so very tempted to buy an xbox just for this game, GT5 for me was a big letdown, this looks so much nicer.
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-10-04 01:21	Know the feeling dragonboy. In fact the only thing that's stopping me is the fact my G25 wheel wouldn't work on a 360
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-04 09:05	I can´t blame Logitech enough for this...X360 uses a different Force Feedback protocol, which is more advanced than the usual one, but Logitech doesn´t want to make wheels compatible with it. Well, they did, once, but it was rubbish...
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-10-05 21:35	My copy of Forza Motorsport 4 has arrived!
Antti-san (38) 2011-10-05 21:44	So, you bought an Xbox after all?
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-10-05 21:54	Well, no. I shall be borrowing a console for the purpose of this review. But if I fall in love with it I might have to eat my words and buy a second hand one or something. There's still the issue of my wheel though I really don't like playing simulators on a controller when possible.
mr.mopar69 (1) 2011-10-05 22:24	dragonboy wrote I am so very tempted to buy an xbox just for this game, GT5 for me was a big letdown, this looks so much nicer. yea but they are releasing a spec 2.0 update for gt5 in the 3rd week of october. Followed by the first DLC for the game a week later....All to compete with Forza 4. I guess we will wait and see what is better.
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-05 23:22	Being honest, the Spec 2.0 update thing isn´t a miracle or something. List of changes: www.gtplanet.net/gt5-spec-2-0-dlc-details-standard-car-interiors-replay-controls-new-cars-new-tracks-more/ Nothing really substantial (i was expecting new tracks and premium cars...). At least standard cars will finally have interior view, but unless the car is a convertible, you´ll see a black interior a la GT PSP. Also, adds even more Nascar cars and the GT-R Kazunori Yamauchi drove on the 24 hrs of Nürburing, and i readed one of the new cars will be...the Toyota FT-86 II concept. So, at least for me, it´s a dissapointment. Again. -- Last edit: 2011-10-05 23:24:17
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-05 23:26	Star Wars Fanatic wrote My copy of Forza Motorsport 4 has arrived! Waiting to read your opinion!
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-10-06 01:12	I thought it says new tracks will be a part of spec 2.0?
mr.mopar69 (1) 2011-10-06 04:31	J-2 wrote Being honest, the Spec 2.0 update thing isn´t a miracle or something. List of changes: www.gtplanet.net/gt5-spec-2-0-dlc-details-standard-car-interiors-replay-controls-new-cars-new-tracks-more/ Nothing really substantial (i was expecting new tracks and premium cars...). At least standard cars will finally have interior view, but unless the car is a convertible, you´ll see a black interior a la GT PSP. Also, adds even more Nascar cars and the GT-R Kazunori Yamauchi drove on the 24 hrs of Nürburing, and i readed one of the new cars will be...the Toyota FT-86 II concept. So, at least for me, it´s a dissapointment. Again. well they never said that the update would add new cars and tracks. That is why they are releasing a DLC pack a week later, although they still haven't mentioned the contents of the pack yet. Most likely it will appear on the playstation blog when the update is released.
MartinBond (4) 2011-10-08 10:44	I've just played the demo, and I love it. The tire-smoke is way more realistic, as well as the powersliding. When you put steering to realistic mode, when you think you've got the car under control, it suddenly gets grip and flies of in the other direction. Happened to me several times with the Cougar...
stryder237 (3) 2011-10-08 12:11	uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/forza-motorsport-4/video/6338543/forza-motorsport-4--video-review?tag=summary%3Bwatch-review 8.5!!!!! what are they, mentaly disabled??? It would have been better if it had more tracks-just 5 new ones, really?
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-08 15:44	I hate how most reviews says "they don´t have weather, rallying, or night, and since GT5 have all of this, FM4 should too, herp derp" It´s funny how they can´t understand they prefer to deliver a stable gameplay at 60 FPS, and focus in other things...what they believe? That they don´t add all of this things because they don´t want to?
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-10-08 19:01	Well, they have to find something to criticise Will finally be playing it for the first time tonight! It's going to feel strange having an Xbox in the house. I hope my PS3 doesn't feel too betrayed.
mr.mopar69 (1) 2011-10-10 04:39	MartinBond wrote I've just played the demo, and I love it. The tire-smoke is way more realistic, as well as the powersliding. When you put steering to realistic mode, when you think you've got the car under control, it suddenly gets grip and flies of in the other direction. Happened to me several times with the Cougar... If you think that the tire smoke is realistic, the you must not have played Driver:San Francisco.Ido like the graphics but GT5 still has more functionality such as windshield wipers, headlights, and a horn. Ijust got the Redbull X1 race car in GT5 and it is the fastest car in any racing game.....EVER.
MartinBond (4) 2011-10-11 19:25	mr.mopar69 wrote If you think that the tire smoke is realistic, the you must not have played Driver:San Francisco. I have played D:SF. that's why I said "way more realistic" and not "the most realistic ever". mr.mopar69 wrote Ido like the graphics but GT5 still has more functionality such as windshield wipers, headlights, and a horn. There is a saying, you know: form beats function? -- Last edit: 2011-10-11 19:26:04
ShantJ (9) 2011-10-12 05:39	Does anyone have a picture of the Dodge Dart?
MartinBond (4) 2011-10-12 20:05	Come on, you lazy americans! The game is out there, stop being selfish and let the rest of the world at least enjoy the pictures
dragonboy (16) 2011-10-13 03:50	Well i preordered the limited version of this a couple of weeks ago with all of the goodies, i should get it today. Bought an xbox along with forza 3, only been playing for a couple of days and all i can say i complete praise. GT5 can sit and never be played again for all i car and no Spec 2.0 like an Iphone S version can save it. I am now a forza fan and this game can only make things so much better. -- Last edit: 2011-10-13 03:52:54
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-13 17:12	I hope i can get it finally today
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2011-10-13 18:08	I was considering holding off buying this until the Ultimate Collection comes out, like it did for Forza 3. That way, it'll be cheaper than having to continuously buy DLC but now I'm not so sure after playing the demo
DodgeHemi426 (0) 2011-10-13 19:31	That Hemi Dart is sweet as hell. I just hope that we can feel those ~650 hp and not 425 (this was underrated, even for the castrated 426 Street-Hemi and this one uses the Race-Hemi).
63FairlaneJoe 2011-10-14 00:05	Thanks J-2 and @ Bean Bandit,yes,I do mean the Fairlane,so yes,you're right
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-14 17:46	Have the game!! Let the pic fest begin
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2011-10-14 18:01	Got a Fanatec CSR wheel yesterday...except I need a stand for it so I have to wait a few more days.
DodgeHemi426 (0) 2011-10-15 01:06	Got the LCE today too. Hell that's the best racing game that I've ever played (and yes to all Gran Tursimo fanboys, I played GT5 aswell).
MartinBond (4) 2011-10-15 13:09	Am I the only one who: - Thinks this is what Forza 3 shoúld have been - Thinks it's absolutely brilliant - Loves all the Muscle Cars - Is terrified to death of the Veyron SuperSports?
m.pfaffeneder (0) 2011-10-15 21:25	I´ve bought Forza 4 today, and it´s absolutely fantastic. Best Game 2011!!!
Mad Mike (17) 2011-10-15 23:40	MartinBond wrote Am I the only one who: - Thinks this is what Forza 3 shoúld have been - Thinks it's absolutely brilliant - Loves all the Muscle Cars - Is terrified to death of the Veyron SuperSports? You're definitely not the only one on the two middle points, theres so much choice now looking forward to getting that GSX with its 150 mph stock top speed and the 3 speed and turning into a total monster. I'm amazed by some of the classics they've selected
DodgeHemi426 (0) 2011-10-16 20:21	@ MartinBond: I think that Forza 3 was more than ok for its time. I was pleased with every Forza in their heritage. But like Mad Mike I ABSOLUTELY agree with you on the two middle points! Especially the Muscle Car list is really nice.
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2011-10-20 01:51	Just noticed that all of the cars that were dropped from the Jalopnik pack last year are in apart from the Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS?
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2011-10-22 05:15	TheHeartbreakKid15 wrote Just noticed that all of the cars that were dropped from the Jalopnik pack last year are in apart from the Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS? I think they are probably saving it as DLC
Hamisxa (1) 2011-10-23 12:10	Shit can't wait to the new dlc! i hope Aventador will be in it!
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-27 16:43	Added first DLC promo pics!
RacingFreak (99) 2011-10-27 18:58	Very nice work J-2!
J-2 (1397) 2011-10-27 19:01	Thanks! But this page is just starting, still lots of pics to remplace
stryder237 (3) 2011-10-30 09:48	I going to get this soon. have to wait for the price to come down over time though, lots of other games I want this xmas, and I didn't play forza 3 that much, I think racing games on closed tracks are good but get repepitive after a while so I don't play them much.
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2011-11-12 00:32	Well? What are everyone's thoughts so far?
J-2 (1397) 2011-11-12 01:27	Not perfect, not with all the features you could expect (but with a reason, to be fair), but fun, and addctive! A great improvement over FM3, definitely.
DodgeHemi426 (0) 2011-11-23 15:10	I love it. Best racing game in the "sim" section (GT, NFS: Shift, DTM Race Driver etc.) I ever played.
Antti-san (38) 2011-11-25 06:38	Like MartinBond said, this is what Forza 3 should have been IMO. I personally always disliked the lifeless handling in Forza 3, I'm glad it's now much more like it was in Forza 2. Also, the cockpit view is much improved and looks a lot more realistic this time around, like the cockpits in the premium cars in GT5. But seriously, 53 votes, score 5.96? No offense, but did half of those people vote "0"? -- Last edit: 2011-11-25 06:49:17
J-2 (1397) 2011-11-25 11:38	Yes, Rinspeed showed a list of people who gave FM4 a zero several months ago, and more than half the people was new for me...one of them had "fm4s" as a nick... (forza motorsport 4 sucks?) Some people can´t stand the "other game" in the "damn box" can do better in several areas than GT5, which is childrish and stupid. And they think giving FM4 a zero here is going to wreck the sales and make Microsoft going bankrupt or something...In my case, i´ve played both, and since nobody pays me, i can enjoy both and tell the good and bad things about them, and what can i say is, this deserves a 9, or more than a 8.5 at least. It may not have rallies, night, weather...but the reasons why this features are not present have been told hunreds of times (they want solid 60 FPS gameplay, without graphical issues) and only for that search for quality (even with all the bugs the game have) they deserve it. -- Last edit: 2011-11-25 11:41:52
J-2 (1397) 2011-11-30 15:15	Ritsu Tainaka wrote So What's the chance for the Porsche DLC? when EA's exclusive contract with porsche expires? Nobody knows. People mostly says it expires by the end of this year, but what really ends, it´s the exclusivity of the Pagani Huayra for EA, so in 2012 we´ll see it in Forza.
J-2 (1397) 2011-12-13 17:26	A to E completed! Now for the biggest letter...F (Ferrari and Ford)
RacingFreak (99) 2011-12-13 17:31	Great job as usual Jorge
J-2 (1397) 2011-12-13 17:35	Thank you
J-2 (1397) 2011-12-24 16:44	Expect to see this soon in FM4! 1995 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4 2012 Chrysler 300 SRT8 2012 Citroën DS4 1964 Lotus Cortina 1991 Mazda #55 Mazdaspeed 787B 1958 MG A Twin-Cam 2012 MINI John Cooper Works Coupe 1987 RUF CTR "Yellowbird" 1997 Volvo 850 R Confirmed by Badned, from Forzacentral.
RacingFreak (99) 2011-12-24 17:02	Yellowbird in FM4! Awesome.
J-2 (1397) 2011-12-24 17:05	And the 787 B
Antti-san (38) 2011-12-24 17:21	Very cool choice of cars!
ShantJ (9) 2011-12-24 18:52	I'm ecstatic about the MG and the Cortina! More Citroëns are appreciated, too.
J-2 (1397) 2011-12-24 19:04	With the DS4, we've got the modern ones covered...i hope we see some classic Citroëns from now on.
ShantJ (9) 2011-12-24 19:20	Well, there's still the DS5, but I doubt that's coming. If we get an SM, I'll fly over to their headquarters and give them all a kiss.
Trillium 2011-12-24 19:51	While a solid list and and all, I can't help thinking about the time Badned told us that the Community Choice pack would be 15 cars and we got 9 out of 15 we voted for, plus one Ferrari, so I take everything he says with a grain of salt now. I still hope it's legit.
Antti-san (38) 2011-12-25 01:36	J-2 wrote With the DS4, we've got the modern ones covered...i hope we see some classic Citroëns from now on. Yes, how about the DS from Enthusia? igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=23431
J-2 (1397) 2011-12-27 20:52	Ferrari and Fiat completed!
dragonboy (16) 2012-01-05 02:27	I agree that it sux we cant buy the preorder cars on the auction house, yes there's exclusivity when the game first comes out but now its been out for a bit let everybody else buy one. I looked on ebay and youd have to spend about $20 per pre order code, no way.
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-05 02:47	I actually managed to get all pre-order cars...all but the Giulietta. I´m still searching a cheap code out there.
Antti-san (38) 2012-01-05 04:36	MartinBond wrote Probably in the Ultimate Edition, can't imagine them bringin out "exclusive" cars in a DLC pack... You never know, after all they did offer the VIP cars as a DLC in Forza 3 after a while...
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-05 12:02	So, I hereby ask oficcial permission to J-2 to make a shot of it?
BeanBandit (1) 2012-01-05 13:03	After Turn10 included Oldsmobile brand in the game i'll be very surprised if we don't see Mk I Toronado as DLC. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:66Toronado.jpg
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-06 15:51	I hope so, the '66 model is one of the prettiest...
Tycek (169) 2012-01-06 17:09	Damn if they'll give us Toronado I will have to buy me a new set of pants Also I got Giulietta, too so if J-2 wants I can send him the pic to upload under his nick.
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-06 19:58	Don't worry for the Alfa. I'm now the proud owner of all 5 pre-order cars!
ShantJ (9) 2012-01-06 20:04	I'd love a Toronado. We need all the classics we can get.
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-06 20:45	How mutch did you pay for it, dare I to ask?
ShantJ (9) 2012-01-06 20:57	I want to be able to this in the game: www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/20323/images/GoodwoodRevival2009_1.jpg
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-06 23:15	There are thousands with you there Also, seeing the Cortina Lotus on the list earlier, I think we might just get some nice 60's race/rally treats!
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-06 23:25	MartinBond wrote How mutch did you pay for it, dare I to ask? Me? Like 30 € for the other four. (I had the 1 M Coupe with my copy) 2 months ago they were obviously cheaper, but as the codes get used, the prices rise and rise every week.
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-06 23:46	ouch... I was negotiating with a guy for the Alfa code when he decided to give it to me for free. I can't thank him enough! Still want the CR-Z though, and the Clubman Cooper if it ever comes along.
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-10 03:08	The new Hyundai Veloster Turbo and the Veloster #67 Ryhs Millen Racing are now available for download. Pretty fast, isn't?
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-10 03:12	There's a dealership very close that had the new veloster in a bright green. Tha car sure has got great looks, can't wait to try it out!
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-10 03:15	And the're free as well!
Antti-san (38) 2012-01-11 17:34	schaefft wrote I just read that all shop-exclusive vehicle codes expired on Jan. 1st though, so it wouldnt make much sense to buy anything anymore. Hopefully that means that there's a chance they'll release them as a DLC for us less fortunate.
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-21 17:56	More reasons to hate EA (and Porsche, for not giving a damn about this): 5 Porsche models were going to be featured in Autovista mode, including the Carrera GT and the 918 Spyder. Instead of that, Porsche models gets the shameful arcade tratment in NFS The Run. Much better, of course.
ShantJ (9) 2012-01-21 19:19	Do you know the other 3?
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-21 20:05	No, but my guesses are the 550 Spyder, the 959, and one 911 (GT2, GT3...)or maybe a racing one, like the Flying Lizard 911.
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-24 02:54	The pre-order and launch bonus pack cars are finally available for download: forzamotorsport.net/en-us/launch_bonus_pack_announcement/ 560 MSP. Not included in the Season Pass, as expected. -- Last edit: 2012-01-24 02:55:05
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-25 01:07	I just got them. Saved me 40 Mspoints from buying them seperately
BeanBandit (1) 2012-01-25 13:25	I have all Ship Bonus cars and a Mini Clubman as pre-order bonus car, so I really only need the Julietta, CR-Z, BMW 1 and Impreza WRX. Can I bought them separately?
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-25 13:53	Yes you can. 160 MSP each.
Antti-san (38) 2012-01-25 15:19	It'll be cheaper to just buy the whole pack then...
MartinBond (4) 2012-01-29 13:53	Any guesses on the February Pack? I'm hoping for the 850 R, another classic á lá Plymouth/Chrysler, and some Jalopnik-list Cars... BMW 850 here I come...
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-29 16:59	Mazda 787B is a must have. It's already confirmed, but it should appear in this pack, it's about time.
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-01-29 19:03	There's always something new for these DLC packs, so...maybe 2013 M-B SL500? Also, the Audi R18 would be great to see, although they'll probably wait until the last pack for that. I'm hoping for something for one of the brands that still hasn't received a DLC pack car. (Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Oldsmobile, Acura, McLaren (MP4-12C GT3, perhaps?), Lotus, etc...).
Antti-san (38) 2012-01-31 21:19	The February car pack is revealed! forzamotorsport.net/en-us/february_ALMS_pack/ Audi Quattro?
J-2 (1397) 2012-01-31 21:31	The best pack so far!!
Tycek (169) 2012-01-31 22:24	Meh, If I didn't have Season Pass I would probably skip this "February not so great pack" -- Last edit: 2012-01-31 22:25:41
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2012-02-11 17:30	What's the bet there will be a "complete version" down the line with all the DLC bundled? Ps: I may have just bought an Xbox 360... -- Last edit: 2012-02-11 17:49:49
J-2 (1397) 2012-02-11 17:57	Whoa! Wasn't expecting that Well, depends on how many DLC packs will be released. After April nothing have been decided, so... But i think at least another 4 packs will come, and the chances for a Ultimate version are high then.
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2012-02-11 19:37	Haha, well a friend was selling theirs and my copy of Forza is still sitting there feeling lonely so I couldn't resist Managed to get Alan Wake bundled in too, you'll be pleased to know. Yeah, I was thinking if they limit it to the DLC packs already announced there's a high chance - a "complete" edition of DiRT 3 is already on the way. -- Last edit: 2012-02-11 19:40:06
J-2 (1397) 2012-02-12 01:57	Alan Wake too? Great! I'm sure you'll like it. It have some issues, like there's not a real open world and the controls can be annoying sometimes, but besides that, it's magnificent. And for the DLC...FM3 had 10 packs. I can't see FM4 having less, and not a single new DLC track, having in mind that FM5 should appear for the next Xbox. -- Last edit: 2012-02-12 01:58:27
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2012-02-13 19:04	Anyone got any other Xbox/XBLA games to recommend other than the usual Gears and Halo? Am thinking of picking up Project Gotham and buying Trials online too.
J-2 (1397) 2012-02-13 21:25	Project Gotham Racing 4 is a must have It's 5 years old, but it's still as great as the first day, i've never played something as complete as it! And talking about XBLA, a new Alan Wake game (not a real sequel, just a new game) is coming to XBLA later this month.
Trillium 2012-02-13 23:03	J-2 wrote Project Gotham Racing 4 is a must have It's 5 years old, but it's still as great as the first day, i've never played something as complete as it! Probably dirt cheap now too. If you can find them, the two PGRs for XBOX are backwards compatible. The second is still really good, and they play (at least on my 360) without any major issues. I've read about missing (all black screen) car selection menu, missing (all black screen) transmission selection dialog, which has never happened for me. It may be fixed in the NTSC-U version (or fixed period). The random hangs upon the start of a race (can easily be avoided by hitting start at the city cutscene) and the game slows down when a bunch of cars drift in a corner at once. Still worth it for like $3. If you want a sim style racing experience, "Race Pro" is a fine buy as well.
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2012-02-19 23:44	At this point I would ask you all for your Gametags...except I didn't realise older models (mine is a 2008 Pro model) required a separate wireless adaptor to get online. It's like the PS2 days / I've also got my surround sound system plugged in via optical but it doesn't seem to be working despite setting the options to Dolby Digital? -- Last edit: 2012-02-19 23:44:55
J-2 (1397) 2012-02-20 00:50	I'm not very sure of how can i help you with that issue...i don't use a surround system, so i've never seen the way to configure it properly. And yes, the wireless thing is a problem, now i have a 2011 Slim model, no it's not longer a problem, but they should have made the wi-fi adaptor bulit-it for that model year.
Antti-san (38) 2012-02-20 06:03	Star Wars Fanatic wrote At this point I would ask you all for your Gametags... Feel free to add me, when you get your Live working - my gamertag is: TheFlyingFinn88. BTW, sorry to bother you J-2, but I sent you a friend request a while ago - have you seen it?
J-2 (1397) 2012-02-20 11:32	Oh, i'm sorry, i thought i added you...can you send it again? I'll make sure i accept it this time. -- Last edit: 2012-02-20 19:40:09
Antti-san (38) 2012-02-20 11:39	No problem, I've resent it now.
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2012-02-26 19:53	Right, got my Xbox setup for online now with a 2 month Gold subscription. My tag is StartWars54 if anyone wants to add me!
Antti-san (38) 2012-02-29 00:13	March car pack is revealed! forzamotorsport.net/en-us/march_pirelli_car_pack/ Did someone ask for a 850?
J-2 (1397) 2012-02-29 00:17	Adding new cars right now!!
J-2 (1397) 2012-03-05 13:35	PORSCHE IS BACK!!! -- Last edit: 2012-03-05 15:21:38
J-2 (1397) 2012-03-05 15:21	Also, the first time Porsche and RUF are in the same game, since Test Drive II!
J-2 (1397) 2012-03-05 15:22	30 Porsche cars in a downloadable pack in May, 7 of them are new.
Star Wars Fanatic (487) 2012-03-05 18:23	Bloody hell, talk about a Forza fest! Horizon gets confirmed, the return of Porsche, Forza 5 confirmed for 2013 and the DLC tomorrow -- Last edit: 2012-03-05 18:23:29
J-2 (1397) 2012-03-15 01:33	Everything up to L added! Also, i just recieved the NSX-R GT, so one unicorn less to catch! Just 250 cars remaining....well, 260 with next month's DLC and 290 with the Porsche Pack, so i have to speed up!
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-03-15 18:19	J-2 wrote Everything up to L added! Also, i just recieved the NSX-R GT, so one unicorn less to catch! Just 250 cars remaining....well, 260 with next month's DLC and 290 with the Porsche Pack, so i have to speed up! Alright, Keep it up mate! This is going to be nice pictures!
J-2 (1397) 2012-03-15 18:47	Thanks! Now everything up to McLaren added!
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-03-27 09:20	J-2, Can you post these car pictures from Free Play mode? That would be easier.
J-2 (1397) 2012-03-27 11:45	Today the April DLC will be unveiled! Ritsu Tainaka wrote J-2, Can you post these car pictures from Free Play mode? That would be easier. That's what i do.
ShantJ (9) 2012-04-03 23:01	Either I'm crazy, or this is Forza. It's a leak of the new Viper! blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2012/04/2013-srt-viper-leaked-before-new-york-auto-show.html -- Last edit: 2012-04-03 23:01:18
Antti-san (38) 2012-04-03 23:19	I think it is! Look at this picture: blogs.insideline.com/straightline/assets/Viper7.jpg The building in the background, isn't that Benchmark test track?
J-2 (1397) 2012-04-03 23:19	It's Forza 4!! Great!!
J-2 (1397) 2012-04-03 23:23	Just added. I was hoping they would add it eventually, but this was faster than i thought!
J-2 (1397) 2012-04-04 18:19	!!!!
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-04-04 19:09	Ah, the 2012 SRT Viper GTS-R #93 SRT Viper Racing (that's what the car should be listed as, btw). www.racer.com/viper-launched-for-alms-competition/article/235136/
MartinBond (4) 2012-04-10 01:32	QUOTE "The April Alpinestars Pack is the final pack included in our Forza Motorsport 4 Season Pass. Future DLC packs will need to be purchased on a pack-by-pack basis and you will still be able to purchase individual cars within a pack as well."
MartinBond (4) 2012-04-24 02:19	If Turn 10 is indeed releasing a new pack for May, we should hear about it today!
J-2 (1397) 2012-04-24 08:34	And since the season pass is over, it's now time for me for code hunting again, like i did in FM3,,, -- Last edit: 2012-04-24 08:35:45
MartinBond (4) 2012-04-24 20:42	Hennessey Venom GT is confirmed by Top Gear Magazine
ShantJ (9) 2012-04-24 22:05	OH MY GOD www.forzacentral.com/forum/forza-motorsport-4/37015-forza-motorsport-4-car-track-list-%5Bfinal%5D-dlc-%5Bwip%5D-updated-april-4th-931.html -- Last edit: 2012-05-15 23:05:02 (J-2)
MartinBond (4) 2012-04-24 23:16	IT'S GOT A REVERSE BEEP!
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-05-01 20:59	Yeah, seems to be a glitch in the system. You'll have to buy it directly from the XBL Marketplace. I had the same thing come up, went to the marketplace, and was able to buy it at normal price.
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-05-02 07:26	Price car list for May TopGear Car pack anyone?
twingoman 2012-05-02 09:31	It was ok a couple of hours later, so was able to purchase it in-game. As you say, just a glitch.
UltraRazza (0) 2012-05-08 23:18	God only know many cars Forza 5 will have. A rough guess is a lot.
J-2 (1397) 2012-05-08 23:28	UltraRazza wrote God only know many cars Forza 5 will have. A rough guess is a lot. Forza 1 - 231 cars Forza 2 - 349 cars (+118) Forza 3 - 518 cars (+169) Forza 4 - 635 cars* (+117) *With all the DLC up to this day. With this data, we can assume Forza 5 will have at least +700 cars with all DLC included. It could be even more than 800 cars, depending on how many DLC cars are left to be seen in FM4, how many cars will disappear in FM5, how many cars will be added, and obviously, how many DLC cars FM5 will have.
UltraRazza (0) 2012-05-08 23:39	So I was right. Plenty. I have to admit I wasn't expecting a possibility of at least +700 cars.
Antti-san (38) 2012-05-15 22:24	So, it seems they've reduced the price of the Porsche DLC from 1600 to 560 MSP - interesting... www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-11701-This-Week-and-Next-Week-on-Xbox-Live.html OT: Sorry ShantJ, but could you do something about that HUMONGOUS picture of the Transit? Because currently it's breaking the page! -- Last edit: 2012-05-15 22:35:31
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-05-15 22:39	While I highly doubt that's true...it would be awesome to be able to get 30 cars for the price of 10 (560 MSP being the price of a normal F4 monthly DLC pack). I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Maisak (161) 2012-05-16 18:19	Forza4 is The King of Racing Game
Antti-san (38) 2012-05-17 15:40	Guys, check this out! Forza Horizon, and this time it's for real. www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=413231192033127&set=a.201526173203631.45468.185465731476342&type=1&theater
J-2 (1397) 2012-05-18 23:35	The GT2 RS is confirmed! Pieces Of Flare Win online at the Nürburgring Nordschleife Full track in the 2012 Porsche 911 GT2 RS. 35G
Antti-san (38) 2012-05-19 11:31	carcrasher88 wrote While I highly doubt that's true...it would be awesome to be able to get 30 cars for the price of 10 (560 MSP being the price of a normal F4 monthly DLC pack). I guess we'll have to wait and see. Yeah, sorry for jumping the gun, it's 1600 MSP after all. But the good news is that VIP members will be able to get the pack for 1200 MSP. -- Last edit: 2012-05-19 11:31:55
ShantJ (9) 2012-05-20 00:44	The Penske RS Spyder has not been added yet.
MartinBond (4) 2012-05-22 12:44	I wouldn't bother with the pack. Only 1 "proper" new car (2012 GT2 RS), and they're all pack only. They could have made so mutch more if they allowed the cars to be bought individually...
Antti-san (38) 2012-05-28 19:57	MartinBond wrote They could have made so mutch more if they allowed the cars to be bought individually... Badned said something about the licensing agreement between EA and T10 being the reason why there was no free car and why you can't purchase the cars individually...
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-05-30 12:37	June Meguiar's Car Pack was revealed for June 5. -- Last edit: 2012-05-30 14:48:52
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-05-31 01:14	Been keeping an eye on a thread on the Forza forums. Thanks to a pretty easy hint given by a T10 staff member, we have one car all but officially confirmed. The hint was: Elvis owned one, and less than 300 were built. The answer? The BMW 507 (252 built between 56-59). Here's a link to the thread. forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/14/5461856/ShowThread.aspx Some other hints towards other cars have been given, and apparently some members have unknowingly figured out at least 2 others (but the T10 staff member isn't saying what cars). With the 507 known, this is already shaping up to be an awesome pack.
MartinBond (4) 2012-06-02 03:29	Complete list TBA: Chevrolet Corvette C6.R BMW 507 1940 Ford Deluxe Coupe Ruf CTR Yellowbird Toyota Celica GT-Four Maserati Ghibli II Cup Aston Martin Cygnet Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Edition MG A Twin-cam Volkswagen Beetle -- Last edit: 2012-06-02 18:19:48
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-06-05 15:16	Anyone else here not able to buy the June pack from the in-game marketplace? I've gone on F4 at least 4 times, and still can't buy it (I never buy F4 car packs from the normal marketplace).
Gijs571 (1) 2012-06-05 18:15	Is the pack released then? I still can't find it... Also I hope that in Forza 5 you can add a blower on the hood of the muscle cars. Hopefully they also re-release the Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT again. -- Last edit: 2012-06-05 18:40:29
MartinBond (4) 2012-06-07 11:32	From the bugged gamercard menu: img40.imageshack.us/img40/1066/20120606257.jpg We've got Lincoln coming our way O.O -- Last edit: 2012-06-07 11:32:47
J-2 (1397) 2012-06-07 12:51	That's great! I was missing it.
Antti-san (38) 2012-06-13 21:44	Guys, take a look at this! www.flickr.com/photos/pictureghost1/sets/72157630046896847/ The future is looking bright indeed! -- Last edit: 2012-06-13 21:46:04
J-2 (1397) 2012-06-13 21:47	In FM5 we trust
UltraRazza (0) 2012-06-13 23:06	Antti-san wrote The future is looking bright indeed! You can't say that this hasn't popped up out of nowhere but the future for FM5 is defiantly looking up.
Rinspeed (1249) 2012-06-17 15:38	you can't have the tracks in Forza?
J-2 (1397) 2012-06-18 07:41	Do you mean the tracks maps? Yes, but i can't find them on the net, at least all in the same quality. If pictures of the tracks in-game are not valid, i'll capture the maps by myself.
Rinspeed (1249) 2012-06-18 18:30	J-2 wrote Do you mean the tracks maps? Yes, but i can't find them on the net, at least all in the same quality. If pictures of the tracks in-game are not valid, i'll capture the maps by myself. It's better with tracks maps (or if you want you can post track maps with a picture of environement next to it or something like that, perhaps in the menu (depends of the game)).
J-2 (1397) 2012-06-18 18:58	Alright. I'll do that then.
LightningCount (0) 2012-06-25 18:35	GT5 fanboys are ganging up to vote Forza down. That rating is seriously low for a game this good.
MartinBond (4) 2012-06-25 19:51	LightningCount wrote GT5 fanboys are ganging up to vote Forza down. That rating is seriously low for a game this good. It's a tradition. GT's are rated 10 while the Forza's are rated 1...
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-07-01 05:51	Now it's 656 cars! and this is going to be like Gran Turismo 2, and it has 650 cars.
J-2 (1397) 2012-07-01 05:53	Yup. For me, FM4 is the spiritual succesor of GT2, in many ways, starting with the variety/numer of cars ratio. The future looks definitely bright for the series!
MartinBond (4) 2012-07-03 09:06	Got a code from Jube to bad i'm on a business trip, at least I have a nice suprise waiting for me
stryder237 (3) 2012-07-06 16:59	I will take it as a good sign that this page takes an extra half a second to load than others due to the amount of content.
Antti-san (38) 2012-07-08 08:23	Sorry to bug you J-2, but when will you continue uploading those shots of yours?
J-2 (1397) 2012-07-08 19:28	Don't worry, i've been busy these days, but i want to speed things up, i'm really close to ending FM4 now!
MartinBond (4) 2012-07-11 15:54	You know there's other people that could help as well... looks at the ceiling whistling
Antti-san (38) 2012-07-20 09:57	J-2, why hast thou forsaken us! Also, this is now officially the highest rated FM game on IGCD, with a score of 7...
J-2 (1397) 2012-07-20 12:40	Antti-san wrote J-2, why hast thou forsaken us! Also, this is now officially the highest rated FM game on IGCD, with a score of 7... I'm still alive, don't worry And yes, this is slowly getting the score it deserves...at least it's not a 5.5 anymore. Edit: And fear not, today i'm uploading the rest of the July pack, and all the Porsches, at least. -- Last edit: 2012-07-20 12:45:57
Antti-san (38) 2012-07-20 14:05	Great!
J-2 (1397) 2012-07-21 02:16	Ouch, i wasn't able to upload Porsche today, but at least the July pack pics are now in!
MartinBond (4) 2012-07-22 19:10	If there were multiple people allowed to upload this page would have been done earlier and it would be easier... prepares himself for flak
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-07-26 18:04	Stig's August Car Pack will be announced on July 31, and it will be released on August 7! -- Last edit: 2012-07-28 13:03:39
UltraRazza (0) 2012-07-26 19:22	Ritsu Tainaka wrote Stig's August Car Pack is Coming Soon! Wow. Who's isn't expecting the sounds of thundering engines and the smells of smoking rubber. Well, virtual smells, anyway.
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-07-31 08:16	Ritsu Tainaka wrote Stig's August Car Pack will be announced on July 31, and it will be released on August 7! It's been delayed... and they will announce it tommorrow...
J-2 (1397) 2012-07-31 16:28	Porsche, Radical and Renault added at least!
Antti-san (38) 2012-07-31 16:34	About time! Nah, just kidding - good work. But where's the picture of the 962?
J-2 (1397) 2012-07-31 16:49	Oops, forgot to add it. It's in now EDIT: And thanks -- Last edit: 2012-07-31 16:51:26
Antti-san (38) 2012-07-31 16:53	Don't mention it.
J-2 (1397) 2012-07-31 18:50	!!
Antti-san (38) 2012-07-31 19:05	For once I don't have to stay awake until the early hours waiting for the reveal.
J-2 (1397) 2012-07-31 19:37	Thanks to Lincoln and Triumph, the number of manufacturers is now 92! (And 667 cars!) -- Last edit: 2012-07-31 19:38:28
bumblebee53 (0) 2012-07-31 22:48	I would like to see a 1960s mini cooper S in this game, anyone else agree
J-2 (1397) 2012-08-03 03:00	Well, all unicorns and the Challenger 392 added! In other words, the really hard part is done. Those were the hardest cars to obtain in order to make shots of.
J-2 (1397) 2012-08-10 20:37	Thanks to my capture card, i will be able to upload all the extra shots, including dashboard views...it will be a long job, but since this was almost complete, i'll have something to do until Horizon is released!
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-08-15 16:54	^ The VW Bus could be a 'why not', since we've already got the old Beetle, and there's a Transit in the game already. Would certainly be interesting. Quattro is already in the game as an 83 Sport Quattro The old Morris would satisfy pretty much all Forza players, since the Forza forums are packed with posts asking for it. An older Ibiza would be neat, and I've always thought that SEAT could use a bit more attention in the game. Not sure on the M3 sedan, yes it would be cool, but we already have a similar vintage coupe. 206 and 207 already in the game, 208 could be sensible. The Venga would be a good addition to the lower level subcompacts, and there's already a set of triplet city cars in the game already (C1, Aygo, and 107), so why not add it along side the Hyundai ix20? I'd say we've got enough Super GT GT-Rs in the game, I'd like to see Super GT cars from other brands (Corolla Axio, HSV-10 GT, etc.) A 3-cylinder Focus...maybe, although we've already got the new ST... The R18...you could just paint the existing R18 in the 2012 livery, there's probably lots on the storefront in the game.
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-08-17 15:48	^ - See above comment on the Cooper. - I'd prefer to see the mid 80s T-Bird, but this would be cool as well. - European Capri would be awesome. Also, slight typo, it's 2.8 Injection, not 2.6. - What can I say, game needs a Swift. - Next M3 isn't supposed to be show until March 2013 (Geneva), and that's just in concept form. Chances are we won't see the next M3 until late in Horizon's cycle, or Forza 5. - Loved the car in TDU, very high on my list of cars I want to see in more driving/racing games in general. - More Saab representation in this game would be great, Sonnett III would be my pick, too. - DS4 would be neat, but I'd rather have more classic Citroën metal in this game (DS, for example). - Fulvia Coupe. One of my favorite Lancias. I agree, especially if Turn 10 gave us the option to turn it into an HF. - I'd rather wait until the October pack, and get the production F-Type in the game (car is set to be officially unveiled in Paris late in September).
ShantJ (9) 2012-08-24 23:58	I'd prefer a classic, but the French need all the love they can get. We were supposed to get the DS4 in July.
MartinBond (4) 2012-08-25 17:13	Citroën is indeed very unrepresented, as are, with the exception of Aston Martin, Volkswagen, BMW and Audi, a lot of european manufacturers.
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-08-26 15:05	Tell me how it will announce the September DLC?
Antti-san (38) 2012-08-26 16:01	Should be next Tuesday, as usual.
MartinBond (4) 2012-08-26 18:37	Studebaker Commander is also more-or-less confirmed, as 2 friends of mine who guessed it recieved a unicorn
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-08-27 16:43	A Studebaker Commander...? Never seen it through racing games. I can even dance more.
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-08-27 17:08	Hey, guys. I just did a little poking around, and saw the most recent clue for the new pack (albeit, it's a 3 day old clue). "I love it when a plan comes together!" GMC Vandura, anyone?
ShantJ (9) 2012-08-27 17:16	carcrasher88 wrote Hey, guys. I just did a little poking around, and saw the most recent clue for the new pack (albeit, it's a 3 day old clue). "I love it when a plan comes together!" GMC Vandura, anyone? I hope so!
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-08-27 17:39	I'm sure, so we're hoping to make a A-Team Van! Reminds me of Burrito in GTA Series. -- Last edit: 2012-08-27 17:45:17
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-08-28 11:16	The September DLC Announcement is almost there!
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-08-28 17:40	The announcement is almost there, Tell me about all of the clues!
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-08-28 18:17	Okay, now the car ideas?
carcrasher88 (20) 2012-08-28 18:32	Not sure on 1, 2, 4, or 6, but... #5 seems to lean towards a Studebaker Commander, according to the clue thread on the F4 forums. #7, I'm thinking either MGB GT (Pininfarina only designed the greenhouse of the car), or the Chevrolet Lacetti, because it's the only Top Gear 'Reasonably Priced Car' that's not in the game (Pininfarina designed the sedan and saloon, but not the hatchback). #8, I'd say Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato (25 made) or DB4 Bertone Jet (one off). #9, I'd say the SRT Viper GTS-R, or the original Viper RT/10. The symbol of the army had a two headed snake (Viper) #10 is obviously a GMC Vandura, although based on IMCDB's listings of 4/5 star cars on the show, the AMC Commander and Oldsmobile Firenza are possibilities (we already have a C4 Corvette in the game). -- Last edit: 2012-08-28 18:33:32
Ritsu Tainaka (8) 2012-09-03 20:06	Okay, the September Pennzoil Car Pack release is almost there, then upload pics fast!
J-2 (1397) 2012-09-03 21:52	28 seconds after it's released I'll start the process, don't worry
MartinBond (4) 2012-09-04 00:39	J-2 wrote 28 seconds after it's released I'll start the process, don't worry I believe that without a doubt. About the pic's, when I saw there was a space added for alternate angles and interior shots, I though we could split up the photos that way? You do the cover shots, I do the alternate angles, it's very organised and everyone's happy
J-2 (1397) 2012-09-04 00:58	Well, sounds good to me, but the interior pics could be a problem...do you have a capture card? I can't remember. Without one, it's impossible to do them...
MartinBond (4) 2012-09-04 19:38	As you have one and I'm not getting one for at least 2 months, We'll have to figure something out for that. Whab about I just to the alternate angles for now?
J-2 (1397) 2012-09-04 20:36	Yeah, of course, go ahead.
Antti-san (38) 2012-09-28 19:26	Is it just my Firefox or does this page turn into a mess when you scroll down the comments list for others too?
I NEED NAWZZZ (1) 2012-09-28 19:48	Antti-san wrote Is it just my Firefox or does this page turn into a mess when you scroll down the comments list for others too? I have the very same problem. I can only read the last few comments before it becomes a jargled mess.
J-2 (1397) 2012-11-11 19:05	Thanks! I can't wait to give this the last push (At least for the main pics, additional pics are still a big work to do)
MartinBond (4) 2012-12-25 01:43	Alfa Romeo secondary pics are done, I'll start with AMC tomorrow. Let's get this finished together, you and your screencap-device can get the interiors, so we/you can move on to Horizon
J-2 (1397) 2012-12-25 02:02	Perfect
MartinBond (4) 2013-01-12 10:21	It took a while for me to get started again as my internet went down just as I got back from holiday. I'll be going on as soon as possible though
Shinka Nibutani (34) 2013-02-06 12:40	Back to work, guys! Only Volkswagen and Wiesmann are the only pictures yet!
Shinka Nibutani (34) 2013-05-07 07:45	Good work, guys! You completed the page. I respect ya'all! -- Last edit: 2013-05-07 07:45:37
Rinspeed (1249) 2013-05-21 19:13	MCLaren P1 on FM5 (?) on Xbox One
Hamisxa (1) 2013-05-21 19:17	Yeah just announced!!!! Can't wait, I'm buying it straight off
Game-oholic 94 (0) 2013-08-28 21:26	What happened to the list of cars? I can only see half of every list of cars for almost every game ever put on IGCD, and sometimes not even half a list. What's going on?
J-2 (1397) 2013-08-28 22:44	Check the numbers under the pictures, they are divided into pages now.
Ragref (1) 2014-01-11 03:35	I see Holden didn't get completed.
Ragref (1) 2014-01-11 03:41	Ragref wrote I see Holden didn't get completed. oh wait, nevermind. the commodores were under HSV the whole time so sorry about that
AutoTracker (211) 2016-01-23 22:06	Can you make it for Forza 5, Horizon 2, and Forza 6? I'd love to race a SARD MC8 in those games.
AutoTracker (211) 2016-01-24 03:09	Are you a PlayStation guy or a last-generation guy then?
AutoTracker (211) 2016-01-24 14:27	Racedriver43 wrote Last-Gen/PS4 guy. I never wanted to upgrade in the first place. My "Brother" wanted to go to PS4, so I went with him. Time to whip out a CR-X Del Sol, and make a Duhen SunStrip in honor of Burn Rubber, after his disappearance. Your "brother?" Is he your actual brother? As for Burn Rubber, I miss him too. For my tribute, I'll use his favorite car, a Silvia S15. Lucky for me I have one already and I'll only have to spend the money on the upgrades.
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2016-01-24 23:02	Did this game ever get finished?
J-2 (1397) 2016-01-24 23:36	Only the main pictures.
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2016-01-25 10:13	Will the missing pictures get added?
J-2 (1397) 2016-01-25 10:54	Hopefully...eventually. I obviously want to finish this by myself as I did with tha main pictures, but I still have to complete FM6, half of it is already done, but this year FH3 will be released, which implies another +300 cars (at least) to do, and I also want to give a hand with GT6, since I just got it. I only added the remaining views in the last cars I did here, when the system was introduced. That means more than 300 cars need them, and that means 600 new pictures at least...so you get the picture here. I prefer to focus on the newer games now, since they are my priority now.
Burn Rubber (346) 2016-01-26 04:37	LIKE SIA I'M ALIVE!!!! Just dropped by. So freaking busy these two weeks. I may be back for good by the end of this week. God I'm stressed. Computer is about dead, snow is f-ing annoying. Even on social media. And everything else went wrong. See you soon guys! Good to know yall care bout me!
solarriors (6) 2016-05-06 00:26	The best Forza in my opinions (even regarding splitscreen). And the one with the most exhaustive list. It was even about to reach GT quantity without all the duplicates car. That meant a lot of variety ! and nostalgy !
TheHeartbreakKid15 (0) 2017-03-12 00:52	All of these cars need dashboard pics now
car mad1 (5) 2017-05-21 09:06	J-2 wrote Infineon Raceway, and a party of Muscle cars! Just hear the cars...like the GT40 at the end This track is now called something else innit?

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