Forza Motorsport (2023)





Type: Racing

Developer: Turn 10 Studios

Publisher: Xbox Game Studios

Platforms: PC, Xbox Series

Damageable vehicles: Yes

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  • Playable Vehicles

    2017 Abarth 124 Spider
    2020 Acura ARX-05 DPi
    2001 Acura Integra
    2017 Acura NSX
    2018 Acura NSX GT3
    2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint
    2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta
    2017 Alpine A110
    1971 AMC Javelin
    1970 AMC Rebel
    2018 Apollo Intensa Emozione
    2013 Ariel Atom 500 V8
    1989 Aston Martin AMR1
    1960 Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato
    1964 Aston Martin DB5 Vantage
    1958 Aston Martin DBR1
    2008 Aston Martin DBS
    2019 Aston Martin DBS Superleggera
    1968 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
    2017 Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
    2013 Aston Martin V12 Vantage S
    1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
    2019 Aston Martin Valhalla
    2023 Aston Martin Valkyrie
    2022 Aston Martin Valkyrie AMR Pro
    2001 Aston Martin Vanquish
    2017 Aston Martin Vanquish Zagato
    2019 Aston Martin Vantage
    2016 Aston Martin Vantage GT12
    2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
    2018 Aston Martin Vulcan AMR Pro
    1989 Audi 90 IMSA GTO
    2014 Audi R18
    2013 Audi R8
    2016 Audi R8
    2020 Audi R8
    2018 Audi R8 LMS
    2021 Audi RS e-tron GT
    1995 Audi RS2 Avant
    2020 Audi RS3
    2018 Audi RS3 LMS TCR
    2011 Audi RS3 Sportback
    2001 Audi RS4
    2006 Audi RS4
    2013 Audi RS4 Avant
    2018 Audi RS4 Avant
    2018 Audi RS5
    2003 Audi RS6
    2015 Audi RS6 Avant
    2021 Audi RS6 Avant
    2021 Audi RS7 Sportback
    2015 Audi S1
    2004 Audi S4
    1983 Audi Sport quattro
    2018 Audi TT RS
    2016 Audi TT RS VLN
    1965 Austin Mini Cooper S
    1965 Austin-Healey 3000
    1939 Auto Union Type D
    2014 BAC Mono
    2014 Bentley Continental GT3
    2017 Bentley Continental Supersports
    2003 Bentley Speed 8
    1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
    1975 BMW 3.0 CSL
    2000 BMW 323ti Compact
    1995 BMW 850CSi
    2015 BMW i8
    2002 BMW M Coupé
    1981 BMW M1
    1979 BMW M1 Procar
    2020 BMW M2
    1991 BMW M3
    1997 BMW M3
    2005 BMW M3
    2021 BMW M3
    2002 BMW M3 GTR
    2010 BMW M3 GTS
    2021 BMW M4
    2016 BMW M4 GTS
    1988 BMW M5
    2012 BMW M5
    2018 BMW M5
    2013 BMW M6
    2017 BMW M6 GTLM
    2020 BMW M8
    2018 BMW M8 GTE
    1999 BMW V12 LMR
    2019 BMW Z4
    1967 Brabham BT24
    2019 Brabham BT62
    1974 BRM P201
    2018 Bugatti Chiron
    2019 Bugatti Divo
    1992 Bugatti EB110
    1926 Bugatti Type 35 C
    2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
    1987 Buick GNX
    1970 Buick GSX
    1985 Buick Regal Trans Am
    2016 Cadillac ATS-V Coupe
    2022 Cadillac CT4-V
    2022 Cadillac CT5-V
    2016 Cadillac CTS-V
    2018 Cadillac CTS-V Trans-Am
    2021 Cadillac DPi-V.R
    2023 Cadillac V-Series.R
    2023 Cadillac V-Series.R
    2023 Cadillac V-Series.R
    2013 Caterham Superlight R500
    1966 Chaparral 2E
    1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
    1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS
    2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
    2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS
    1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
    2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
    2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
    2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
    1970 Chevrolet Chevelle
    1967 Chevrolet Corvette
    2020 Chevrolet Corvette
    2020 Chevrolet Corvette
    2014 Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
    2020 Chevrolet Corvette C8.R
    2015 Chevrolet Corvette Daytona Prototype
    2024 Chevrolet Corvette E-Ray
    1976 Chevrolet Corvette Greenwood IMSA GT
    2018 Chevrolet Corvette Trans-Am
    2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
    2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
    2023 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
    1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
    1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
    2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
    2019 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
    1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
    1969 Chevrolet Nova
    1972 Chrysler Valiant Charger
    2011 Citroën DS3 Racing
    1969 Datsun 2000
    1981 Datsun 280ZX Turbo IMSA GTX
    1970 Datsun 510
    1969 Dino 246 GT
    1970 Dodge Challenger
    2012 Dodge Challenger
    2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon
    2019 Dodge Challenger SRT TA1
    1969 Dodge Charger
    1969 Dodge Charger Daytona
    2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat
    2013 Dodge Dart
    2005 Dodge SRT-4
    1996 Dodge Stealth
    1970 Dodge Super Bee
    2008 Dodge Viper ACR
    2016 Dodge Viper ACR
    1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
    2014 Dodge Viper GTS-R
    2013 Donkervoort D8 GTO
    1967 Eagle Mark I
    1992 Eagle MkIII
    1998 Eagle Talon
    2018 Exomotive Exocet
    1964 Ferrari 158
    1948 Ferrari 166 Inter Sport
    1962 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso
    1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
    1963 Ferrari 250 LM
    1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
    1984 Ferrari 288 GTO
    2022 Ferrari 296 GTB
    1976 Ferrari 312 T2
    1967 Ferrari 330 P4
    1998 Ferrari 333 SP
    2003 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
    2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
    2009 Ferrari 458 Italia
    2015 Ferrari 458 Speciale
    2017 Ferrari 488 Challenge
    2015 Ferrari 488 GTB
    2019 Ferrari 488 GTE
    2019 Ferrari 488 Pista
    1953 Ferrari 500 Mondial
    1982 Ferrari 512 BB/LM
    1970 Ferrari 512 S
    1991 Ferrari 512 TR
    2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
    2012 Ferrari 599XX Evoluzione
    1990 Ferrari 641
    2017 Ferrari 812 Superfast
    2014 Ferrari California T
    2002 Ferrari Enzo
    2016 Ferrari F12tdf
    1998 Ferrari F355
    1987 Ferrari F40
    1989 Ferrari F40 LM
    1995 Ferrari F50
    1996 Ferrari F50 GT
    2020 Ferrari F8 Tributo
    2015 Ferrari FXX K
    2018 Ferrari FXX K Evo
    2017 Ferrari J50
    2013 Ferrari LaFerrari
    2019 Ferrari Monza SP2
    2018 Ferrari Portofino
    2020 Ferrari Roma
    2020 Ferrari SF90 Stradale
    1981 Ford Capri
    1973 Ford Escort
    1977 Ford Escort
    1986 Ford Escort
    1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
    1973 Ford Falcon
    1992 Ford Falcon
    2017 Ford Falcon
    1981 Ford Fiesta
    2003 Ford Focus RS
    2009 Ford Focus RS
    2017 Ford Focus RS
    2014 Ford Focus ST BTCC
    2005 Ford GT
    2017 Ford GT
    2016 Ford GT LM GTE
    1966 Ford GT40
    1966 Ford GT40
    1965 Ford Mustang
    1968 Ford Mustang
    1986 Ford Mustang
    1993 Ford Mustang
    2000 Ford Mustang
    2018 Ford Mustang
    1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302
    1982 Ford Mustang IMSA GT
    1991 Ford Mustang IMSA GTO
    1999 Ford Racing Puma
    2016 Ford Shelby GT350R
    2020 Ford Shelby GT500
    1987 Ford Sierra
    2014 FPV GT-F
    2019 Ginetta G60-LT-P1
    2023 GMA T.50
    2016 GTA Spano
    2017 Holden Commodore
    1968 Holden Monaro
    1973 Holden Monaro
    1977 Holden Torana
    1997 Honda Civic
    2004 Honda Civic
    2018 Honda Civic
    2020 Honda Civic Type R TCR
    1991 Honda CR-X
    1992 Honda NSX-R
    2005 Honda NSX-R
    2000 Honda Prelude
    1967 Honda RA300
    2009 Honda S2000
    1970 Honda S800
    1988 HSV Commodore SS Group A SV
    2014 HSV GTS
    1996 HSV GTS-R
    2019 Hyundai Veloster N
    2019 Hyundai Veloster N
    2020 Hyundai Veloster N TCR
    2003 Infiniti G35
    2012 Infiniti G37
    1956 Jaguar D-Type
    1961 Jaguar E-Type
    2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupé
    1967 Jaguar Mk.II
    2015 Jaguar XFR-S
    1993 Jaguar XJ220
    1993 Jaguar XJ220S TWR
    1991 Jaguar XJR-15
    1983 Jaguar XJR-5
    1988 Jaguar XJR-9
    2015 Jaguar XKR-S GT
    2017 Koenigsegg Agera RS
    2020 Koenigsegg Jesko
    2020 KTM X-Bow GT2
    2018 KTM X-Bow GT4
    2012 KTM X-Bow R
    2012 Lamborghini Aventador J
    2016 Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 SV
    2018 Lamborghini Aventador SVJ
    2016 Lamborghini Centenario
    1988 Lamborghini Countach
    1999 Lamborghini Diablo GTR
    1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
    1973 Lamborghini Espada
    2020 Lamborghini Essenza SCV12
    2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
    2020 Lamborghini Huracán EVO
    2015 Lamborghini Huracán LP 620-2 Super Trofeo
    2018 Lamborghini Huracán Performante
    2020 Lamborghini Huracán STO
    2018 Lamborghini Huracán Super Trofeo EVO
    1972 Lamborghini Jarama
    1967 Lamborghini Miura
    2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV
    2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
    2021 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37
    2013 Lamborghini Veneno
    1992 Lancia Delta
    2013 Lexus GS 350
    2014 Lexus IS 350
    2021 Lexus LC 500
    2011 Lexus LFA
    2015 Lexus RC F
    2020 Lexus RC F
    2014 Lola B12/80 Mazda
    1969 Lola T163
    1969 Lola T70 MkIIIB
    2016 Lotus 3-Eleven
    1965 Lotus 40
    1967 Lotus 49
    1976 Lotus 77
    1990 Lotus Carlton
    1966 Lotus Cortina
    1971 Lotus Elan
    2023 Lotus Emira
    2002 Lotus Esprit
    2021 Lotus Evija
    2011 Lotus Evora
    2020 Lynk & Co 03 TCR
    2021 Lynk & Co 03+
    1957 Maserati 300 S
    1939 Maserati 8CTF
    1953 Maserati A6GCS/53
    1997 Maserati Ghibli
    2014 Maserati Ghibli
    2004 Maserati MC12
    1961 Maserati Tipo 61
    1991 Mazda 787B
    1972 Mazda Cosmo Sport
    1992 Mazda Familia
    2013 Mazda MX-5
    2017 Mazda MX-5 Cup
    1990 Mazda MX-5 Miata
    1994 Mazda MX-5 Miata
    2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata
    1973 Mazda RX-3
    1985 Mazda RX-7
    1997 Mazda RX-7
    2002 Mazda RX-7
    1991 Mazda RX-7 IMSA GTO
    2011 Mazda RX-8
    1990 Mazda Savanna RX-7
    2019 McLaren 600LT
    2021 McLaren 620R
    2014 McLaren 650S
    2018 McLaren 720S
    2019 McLaren 720S GT3
    2019 McLaren 720S Spider
    2021 McLaren 765LT
    1993 McLaren F1
    1997 McLaren F1 GT
    2020 McLaren GT
    1966 McLaren M1B
    1976 McLaren M23
    1966 McLaren M2B
    1969 McLaren M8B
    1988 McLaren MP4/4 Honda
    2013 McLaren P1
    2015 McLaren P1 GTR
    2021 McLaren Sabre
    2018 McLaren Senna
    2019 McLaren Senna GTR
    2016 Mercedes-AMG C 63 S Coupé
    2016 Mercedes-AMG C 63 S Coupé
    2018 Mercedes-AMG E 63 S
    2018 Mercedes-AMG GT 63 S
    2021 Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series
    2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
    2018 Mercedes-AMG GT3
    2023 Mercedes-AMG ONE
    1990 Mercedes-Benz 190 E Evolution II
    1954 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
    1955 Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR
    2014 Mercedes-Benz A 45 AMG
    2017 Mercedes-Benz A-Klasse BTCC
    2004 Mercedes-Benz C 32 AMG
    2012 Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG
    2009 Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG
    2012 Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG
    2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
    1939 Mercedes-Benz W154
    1970 Mercury Cougar
    1990 Mercury Cougar XR-7 IMSA GTO
    1986 Merkur XR4Ti IMSA GTU
    2021 MG 6 XPower
    2020 MG 6 XPower TCR
    1958 MG A Twin Cam
    1965 MG B GT
    2012 MINI John Cooper Works GP
    2021 MINI John Cooper Works GP
    1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse
    1998 Mitsubishi FTO
    1992 Mitsubishi Galant
    1997 Mitsubishi GTO
    2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX
    1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI
    2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
    2015 Moses Smith Racing Formula Mazda
    2016 NIO EP9
    1993 Nissan 240SX
    1988 Nissan 300ZX IMSA GTO
    2019 Nissan 370Z Nismo
    2017 Nissan Altima
    1984 Nissan Bluebird Gr.5 Super Silhouette
    1994 Nissan Fairlady Z
    2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
    1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432
    2017 Nissan GT-R
    2015 Nissan GT-R LM Nismo
    2020 Nissan GT-R Nismo
    1985 Nissan GTP ZX-Turbo
    1990 Nissan Pulsar
    1967 Nissan R380 II
    1969 Nissan R382
    1998 Nissan R390 GT1
    1999 Nissan R391
    1991 Nissan R91CP
    2018 Nissan Sentra Nismo
    1992 Nissan Silvia
    1994 Nissan Silvia
    1998 Nissan Silvia
    2000 Nissan Silvia
    1971 Nissan Skyline
    1973 Nissan Skyline
    1987 Nissan Skyline
    1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R
    1997 Nissan Skyline GT-R
    2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R
    1983 Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette
    2023 Nissan Z
    1990 Oldsmobile Cutlass SCCA
    1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds
    1979 Opel Kadett
    2017 Oreca 07 Gibson
    2010 Oreca FLM09
    2016 Pagani Huayra BC
    2022 Pagani Huayra R
    1984 Peugeot 205 Turbo 16
    2011 Peugeot 308
    2018 Peugeot 308 TCR
    1993 Peugeot 905 Evo 1C
    2020 Pininfarina Battista
    1971 Plymouth GTX
    1971 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda
    1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
    1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
    1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
    2002 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
    1969 Pontiac GTO
    1957 Porsche 356 A Speedster
    1955 Porsche 550A Spyder
    2018 Porsche 718 Cayman GTS
    1960 Porsche 718 RS 60
    2019 Porsche 911
    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
    1997 Porsche 911 GT1
    1995 Porsche 911 GT2
    2012 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
    2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
    2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
    2004 Porsche 911 GT3
    2007 Porsche 911 GT3
    2021 Porsche 911 GT3
    2018 Porsche 911 GT3 R
    2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    2015 Porsche 911 RSR
    2017 Porsche 911 RSR
    2019 Porsche 911 Speedster
    1982 Porsche 911 Turbo
    1993 Porsche 911 Turbo
    1970 Porsche 914/6
    1970 Porsche 917 LH
    2014 Porsche 918 Spyder
    2017 Porsche 919
    1980 Porsche 924 Carrera GTS
    1993 Porsche 928
    1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
    1983 Porsche 956
    1987 Porsche 959
    1987 Porsche 962C
    1993 Porsche 968 Turbo
    2003 Porsche Carrera GT
    2022 Porsche Mission R
    2017 Porsche Panamera Turbo
    2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo
    2015 Radical RXC
    2019 RAESR Tachyon Speed
    1980 Renault 5 Turbo
    1967 Renault 8 Gordini
    1990 Renault Alpine V6
    2016 Renault Clio R.S. 16
    2003 Renault Clio V6
    1993 Renault Clio Williams
    2008 Renault Mégane R26.R
    2018 Renault Mégane RS
    2015 Riley Mk XXVI
    2019 Rimac C_Two
    2021 Rimac Nevera
    2018 Saleen S1
    2004 Saleen S7
    2017 Saleen S7 LM
    1989 Sauber-Mercedes C9
    1965 Shelby Cobra
    1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona
    1986 Shelby GLHS
    1963 Shelby Cooper Monaco
    2013 SRT Viper GTS
    2013 Subaru BRZ
    2022 Subaru BRZ
    2004 Subaru Impreza
    2008 Subaru Impreza
    2011 Subaru Impreza
    1998 Subaru Impreza 22B-STi
    1990 Subaru Legacy
    2018 Subaru Levorg BTCC
    2015 Subaru WRX STi
    2019 Subaru WRX STi
    2019 Subaru WRX STi
    1969 Toyota 2000GT
    1974 Toyota Celica
    1992 Toyota Celica
    1994 Toyota Celica
    2003 Toyota Celica
    1974 Toyota Corolla
    2020 Toyota GR Supra
    1999 Toyota GT-One
    1989 Toyota MR2
    1995 Toyota MR2
    1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno
    1992 Toyota Supra
    1998 Toyota Supra
    2014 Toyota TS040
    2018 TVR Griffith
    2015 Ultima Evolution
    2017 Vauxhall Astra BTCC
    2006 Vauxhall Astra VXR
    2012 Vauxhall Astra VXR
    2016 Vauxhall Corsa
    1995 Volkswagen Corrado
    1983 Volkswagen Golf
    1992 Volkswagen Golf
    1998 Volkswagen Golf
    2003 Volkswagen Golf
    2018 Volkswagen Golf GTI TCR
    2014 Volkswagen Golf R
    2021 Volkswagen Golf R
    2022 Volkswagen Golf R
    1981 Volkswagen Scirocco
    1988 Volkswagen Scirocco
    1997 Volvo 850 R
    2017 VUHL 05RR
    2020 XPeng P7
    2019 Zenvo TSR-S

    Unplayable Vehicles

    2010 Lola B09/86 Mazda
    1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR
    1988 Mitsubishi Starion
    2019 Nissan 370Z
    2019 Porsche 935
    2020 Toyota GR Supra
    unknown

    Tracks or places:

    US Maple Valley

    Comments

    Author Message


    US Ayaka601 photo_librarymode_comment

    2024-02-17 06:57
    J-2 wrote


    I respect your view, but sadly, after a few other tries of playing it, I'm raising my bar to I just plain hate this game, don't care about what does best anymore, it's like saying the Titanic while breaking in half still looked elegant.

    Tried to make a race in Silverstone a few minutes ago, in order to get the Acura 'prize' car. Way too many loading screens, too much info before starting the race, the practise laps suddenly start in a place within the track you better recognize fast before you start driving, then the race, starts out of nowhere, no countdown, without time to react, sound gets stuck 10 seconds even when paused. Tracks keeps disappearing. I get so many penalties for getting off course I end up finishing 12th. Restart the race? You will be selecting again your place in the grid, checking all the driver's info again, all the loading screens...just wanted to restart the race, not the whole event to be reconfigured from scratch, so I better turn on rewind.

    Still cannot import my FH5 stuff (at this point I don't feel like doing new stuff on this game altogether) and maybe the stuff I already shared has been stolen, since downloaded skins and tunes might do so unlocked, so people can do as they please.

    Game's a joke, that's it. I look back at FM2-3-4-5-6 and 7, especially in the golden days of FM4 when I was still doing the shots for IGCD, and I just want to cry, they murdered the franchise. So much is broken, even at design level, I don't think this can be fixed even if they care and try, looks like it was made by a bad AI prompted by some accountants that only want to make money, but forgot that quality means sales first.

    I might be too negative, but honestly, I can't find a redeeming feature in this mess. FM5 again was really poundered 10 years ago because of the lack of content, reviews show that. I defended it, thought people were unfair, I too missed a lot of things that never returned, not only then, but even today, but the game was enjoyable, felt complete, solid, stable, felt put together nicely. Looked amazing, played amazing. Now, every time I think about giving this another try, I just feel overwhelmed, as doing a chore you need to do, but don't want to. You shouldn't feel that with any game, and personally, feeling that, with a Forza title, is something I'm still trying to process, I just can't believe this is happening...


    I totaly agree. Car list is not too bad than Forza Motorsport 5. but luck of cars yet.
    RU AudiRS4 photo_librarymode_comment

    2024-01-15 19:10
    J-2 wrote


    I respect your view, but sadly, after a few other tries of playing it, I'm raising my bar to I just plain hate this game, don't care about what does best anymore, it's like saying the Titanic while breaking in half still looked elegant.

    Tried to make a race in Silverstone a few minutes ago, in order to get the Acura 'prize' car. Way too many loading screens, too much info before starting the race, the practise laps suddenly start in a place within the track you better recognize fast before you start driving, then the race, starts out of nowhere, no countdown, without time to react, sound gets stuck 10 seconds even when paused. Tracks keeps disappearing. I get so many penalties for getting off course I end up finishing 12th. Restart the race? You will be selecting again your place in the grid, checking all the driver's info again, all the loading screens...just wanted to restart the race, not the whole event to be reconfigured from scratch, so I better turn on rewind.

    Still cannot import my FH5 stuff (at this point I don't feel like doing new stuff on this game altogether) and maybe the stuff I already shared has been stolen, since downloaded skins and tunes might do so unlocked, so people can do as they please.

    Game's a joke, that's it. I look back at FM2-3-4-5-6 and 7, especially in the golden days of FM4 when I was still doing the shots for IGCD, and I just want to cry, they murdered the franchise. So much is broken, even at design level, I don't think this can be fixed even if they care and try, looks like it was made by a bad AI prompted by some accountants that only want to make money, but forgot that quality means sales first.

    I might be too negative, but honestly, I can't find a redeeming feature in this mess. FM5 again was really poundered 10 years ago because of the lack of content, reviews show that. I defended it, thought people were unfair, I too missed a lot of things that never returned, not only then, but even today, but the game was enjoyable, felt complete, solid, stable, felt put together nicely. Looked amazing, played amazing. Now, every time I think about giving this another try, I just feel overwhelmed, as doing a chore you need to do, but don't want to. You shouldn't feel that with any game, and personally, feeling that, with a Forza title, is something I'm still trying to process, I just can't believe this is happening...

    Forza turned into a zombie franchise since the last updates of FH4 - it's all just new cars (that you can't get anyway). Besides all they do now is remove cars from previous titles just to bring them back as DLC or those stupid seasonal rewards. FM2 only had THREE cars you couldn't buy from the dealer, and those were just variations of existing ones.


    ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

    2023-11-03 23:09
    speedfreak975 wrote
    I dont necessarily think this game does everything worse, thats inaccurate. Rivals is better, Qol done there is great. MP is leagues ahead but still needs work. Core gameplay itself is miles ahead of any of their previous games. Game has solid infrastructure to work on and improve. Ai has pace but racecraft is non existent that needs alot of work. what they've been doing for last 6 years, not sure.

    Visually game suffers with bugs and oddities with materials and lighting. Hence why no entries yet.
    Artistic direction is weird. Game lacks sharpness and vividness all previous Forzas have. Reflections can be stronger.

    Ive taken few test shots, game can look very good under some conditions. But I'd rather wait for 1st few major updates game gets hopefully visual inconsistencies and specific car bugs are ironed out. Until then I'm buying all the cars (I'm aware you can rent, not a fan of sticking to default color options)


    I respect your view, but sadly, after a few other tries of playing it, I'm raising my bar to I just plain hate this game, don't care about what does best anymore, it's like saying the Titanic while breaking in half still looked elegant.

    Tried to make a race in Silverstone a few minutes ago, in order to get the Acura 'prize' car. Way too many loading screens, too much info before starting the race, the practise laps suddenly start in a place within the track you better recognize fast before you start driving, then the race, starts out of nowhere, no countdown, without time to react, sound gets stuck 10 seconds even when paused. Tracks keeps disappearing. I get so many penalties for getting off course I end up finishing 12th. Restart the race? You will be selecting again your place in the grid, checking all the driver's info again, all the loading screens...just wanted to restart the race, not the whole event to be reconfigured from scratch, so I better turn on rewind.

    Still cannot import my FH5 stuff (at this point I don't feel like doing new stuff on this game altogether) and maybe the stuff I already shared has been stolen, since downloaded skins and tunes might do so unlocked, so people can do as they please.

    Game's a joke, that's it. I look back at FM2-3-4-5-6 and 7, especially in the golden days of FM4 when I was still doing the shots for IGCD, and I just want to cry, they murdered the franchise. So much is broken, even at design level, I don't think this can be fixed even if they care and try, looks like it was made by a bad AI prompted by some accountants that only want to make money, but forgot that quality means sales first.

    I might be too negative, but honestly, I can't find a redeeming feature in this mess. FM5 again was really poundered 10 years ago because of the lack of content, reviews show that. I defended it, thought people were unfair, I too missed a lot of things that never returned, not only then, but even today, but the game was enjoyable, felt complete, solid, stable, felt put together nicely. Looked amazing, played amazing. Now, every time I think about giving this another try, I just feel overwhelmed, as doing a chore you need to do, but don't want to. You shouldn't feel that with any game, and personally, feeling that, with a Forza title, is something I'm still trying to process, I just can't believe this is happening...


    LB speedfreak975 photo_librarymode_comment

    2023-10-26 20:41
    I dont necessarily think this game does everything worse, thats inaccurate. Rivals is better, Qol done there is great. MP is leagues ahead but still needs work. Core gameplay itself is miles ahead of any of their previous games. Game has solid infrastructure to work on and improve. Ai has pace but racecraft is non existent that needs alot of work. what they've been doing for last 6 years, not sure.

    Visually game suffers with bugs and oddities with materials and lighting. Hence why no entries yet.
    Artistic direction is weird. Game lacks sharpness and vividness all previous Forzas have. Reflections can be stronger.

    Ive taken few test shots, game can look very good under some conditions. But I'd rather wait for 1st few major updates game gets hopefully visual inconsistencies and specific car bugs are ironed out. Until then I'm buying all the cars (I'm aware you can rent, not a fan of sticking to default color options)

    -- Last edit:
    2023-10-26 20:51:17


    ES J-2 photo_librarymode_comment

    2023-10-25 23:43
    TheGreaser wrote

    J-2, who used to handle past Forzas, just could not bring himself to play it on PC (as I frequent GTPlanet). He's gotten countless problems with optimization and his passion is making authentic liveries, which I do like (and have used his full Blue Meanie Brock Commodore plenty of times), but with this entry he has had nothing but serious problems with importing designs. The bug list is the size of Prometheus and many Shakespeare works combined, worse than FH5 of all things.


    Exactly right. Right now, 3 main issues are:

    1-FH5 import is broken, will not sync designs and/or vinyl groups, funnily enough any other Forza titles work, so I was at least able to import old designs from FM7 and before, but sadly I started work on a complete Nissan R391 with a Le Mans livery in FH5 before the game was released. Spent hours doing really hard logos with little to none real life references to look at, and I'm not redoing them in FM just because they can't make it work, which connects to the 2nd issue:

    2-The editor lacks ALL of the improvements made to FH5, the UI in FH5 is very visual and quick to work with, you can access options really quickly, the vertical layer view is nice, the car can be seen around nicely with great lightning and control over the camera. In FM23 they just took the one from FM7 and made it somehow worse, I don't like working there at all. The most simple things are now broken, a very good example extends for example to long lists. Let's say you're browsing the car catalog or your garage, you select manufacturer list view, and of course, if you want to go to the end in one click, simply hit LB to go backwards and start on z right? You can't now. You have to move forwards no matter what, and that was just a very specific and, in the big scheme of things, small issue, there are so many it makes my head spin.

    3-Yet another issue to a feature I was looking for, now you can 'rent' any car of the game, paint it, and sell the design, so you don't go bankrupt trying to buy the needed cars first, and of course...it's broken. I successfully managed to try it twice, and after the 3rd time, after rebooting the game and the PC, after 2 patches...never got the feature to work ever again. Every time I select a car I don't own to paint, it just keeps loading in a loop. Not crashed, game is still working, but will not exit the loop, you need to restart the game.

    So yeah, long story short, I can't enjoy driving, painting, taking pics or even take a look at cars due to all the visual bugs and issues, poor shaders and rendering (the game looks bleached out) so game will wait until it lets me enjoy it, not the other way round.

    In fact, I could offer myself to start doing some pics if speedfreak975 agreed but so far I haven't been able to do a single satisfactory picture. So yeah, not looking good for now I'm afraid, game feels somehow rushed after all these development years, and at this point maybe is a good idea to actually start over and throw this to the bin, it's Titanic being patched one rivet at a time while it sinks, there are worse games out there? Definitely. As a Forza game, this is the worst one? Hands down. In every single way.


    UK Daboi492 photo_librarymode_comment

    2023-10-20 14:07
    TheGreaser wrote
    Granted, that would be expected considering the game hasn't been globally released yet, only in early access. I will agree with you on that note, but what of timed events? We have an Acura that's locked behind the timegate, and by the time they sort out the visual maladies, the car won't be available anymore, and we'd have to wait for months.

    Not to mention that they totally lied to us about the cars we were getting. Why can't we drive the 935, Oreca 07 that was clearly shown in pre-release material, only to suddenly withdraw it for no apparent reason and screw us over.

    This BS with modern gaming needs to stop.

    1. He’s still playing the game, just not taking photos yet
    2. License issues, I’d presume
    UK carknower photo_librarymode_comment

    2023-10-07 16:51
    speedfreak975 wrote
    The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes.

    Yes, the graphics and the upgrade system is really garbage in this game, that silly misty haze that covers every track at daytime is just terrible, and the overall graphics are so blurry and last gen-ish, almost looks like a PS2 or PS3 game, and not a next gen game, looks terrible to be honest.
    FM7 and FH5 looks miles better than this, and the upgrade car levelling system will kill the game before the end of the year since no one will have the patience to drive every single car for 100:s of miles just to upgrade the anti-roll bars or tyres :(
    Total bone head system

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    LB speedfreak975 photo_librarymode_comment

    2023-10-07 11:26
    The game seems to possibly have some visual hiccups when it comes to color grading,color representation and fidelity. So I'm going to wait a few updates and see if that changes.


    FI Antti-san photo_librarymode_comment

    2023-10-07 08:03
    Solarriors wrote
    The car list could have easily reached over the 1000 cars finally, even without the buggies and so, somehow they decided to cut all of it in half... I don't understand it.

    Gotta save some as DLC. :whistle:
    CH Solarriors photo_librarymode_comment

    2023-10-05 23:54
    The car list could have easily reached over the 1000 cars finally, even without the buggies and so, somehow they decided to cut all of it in half... I don't understand it.

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